Topic: Bruce Jenna As Caitlyn Now..What You Think?
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Mon 06/01/15 07:21 PM
His journey has inspired me to seek out my inner lesbian. :thumbsup:

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Mon 06/01/15 07:29 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Mon 06/01/15 07:33 PM
KissableKiss stated >>>
Shes a very strong person for doing this and I support her 100%

She's beautiful



Bruce left his Malibu home at 4:15 a.m. and headed to the Beverly Hills office of a surgeon specializing in what is known as facial-feminization surgery. That typically involves procedures such as hairline correction, forehead contouring, jaw, and chin contouring. Bruce would undergo a breast augmentation,but did not have genital surgery. Kissinger notes Jenner was "nervous."
Jenner tells Bissinger about how she suffered a panic attack the day after undergoing 10-hour facial-feminization surgery on March 15 a procedure she believed would take 5 hours. (Bissinger reveals that she has not had genital surgery.) She recalls thinking, '��What did I just do? What did I just do to myself?'�� A counselor from the Los Angeles Gender Center came to the house so she could talk to a professional, and assured her that such reactions were often induced by pain medication, and that second-guessing was human and temporary.

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For her part, Caitlyn is prepared for the criticism that it?s a publicity stunt:'Oh, she'��s doing a stupid reality show. She'��s doing it for the money. She’s doing this, she'��s doing that.? I?m not doing it for money. I?m doing it to help my soul and help other people. If I can make a dollar, I certainly am not stupid. [I have] house payments and all that kind of stuff. I will never make an excuse for something like that. Yeah, this is a business. You don'��t go out and change your gender for a television show. O.K., it ain'��t happening. I don?t care who you are.'��
http://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/introducing-caitlyn-jenner--see-the--vanity-fair--cover-163558833.html


As with anything that has to do with issues that don't affect us directly but are issues that make us FEARFUL; there will be ugly naysayers and those that just ridicule his choice and now her life style decision...but she's paying for it in many ways...both financial and emotionally!

tman_62's photo
Mon 06/01/15 07:30 PM

As this site does not discriminate in any way,
I am happy for someone coming into their own.

That family has enough love to carry them through.


Well said!

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Mon 06/01/15 07:34 PM
...but
she's paying for it in many ways...both
financial and emotionally!

Horse$hit.....


but did not have genital
surgery.


He has a new reality show starting in July on E!.

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Mon 06/01/15 07:44 PM
To the politically correct self righteousness. What if your daughter or your mother was in the bathroom and Caitlyn had to use the bathroom. Would you be all right if he went to the same bathroom as your daughter or your mother? If it is all right for Caitlyn to use a woman's bathroom? Why not for a transgendered person who is preop to also use the bathroom? What if a young Caitlyn wanted to play professional tennis, would it be all right if he had surgery to gain an advantage to play women's tennis? Maybe we should have three bathrooms, one for men, one for women, and one for transgendered. Who says that transgendered people don't commit sexual crimes. Are they any different than heterosexual or homosexual people. Does transgendered surgery make you more better than the rest of the population? One other question, what if your preteen is in gym class, a guy decides he is now transgendered. Is he, I am sorry she will have your blessing to use the same locker room as your daughter. It is a slippery slope, and I think that Caitlyn is pushing us. May God bless Caitlyn.

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Mon 06/01/15 07:54 PM

...but
she's paying for it in many ways...both
financial and emotionally!

Horse$hit.....


but did not have genital surgery.



He has a new reality show starting in July on E!.


Since this has brought out such a vile response from you, I would suggest that you force yourself to abstain from watching 'E TV'; pretty easy squeeze --- problem solved :banana:


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Mon 06/01/15 07:58 PM


...but
she's paying for it in many ways...both
financial and emotionally!

Horse$hit.....


but did not have genital surgery.



He has a new reality show starting in July on E!.


Since this has brought out such a vile response from you, I would suggest that you force yourself to abstain from watching 'E TV'; pretty easy squeeze --- problem solved :banana:


Vile? In what way? A man is manilpulating people for his own finacial gain? Yep.....pretty vile.
Maybe Kris will let him bang RayJay and release THAT video also Seems to be THAT family's forte.

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Mon 06/01/15 08:05 PM
The Kardashian family got to him...so to prove to himself that he was an equal or better & to get more spotlight...he became a woman...it could also be to compete with the rest of the women on that show in terms of fame & career

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Mon 06/01/15 08:09 PM

The Kardashian family got to him...so to prove to himself that he was an equal or better & to get more spotlight...he became a woman...it could also be to compete with the rest of the women on that show in terms of fame & career


Now ^^ makes sense.

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Mon 06/01/15 08:10 PM

As with anything that has to do with issues that don't affect us directly but are issues that make us FEARFUL; there will be ugly naysayers and those that just ridicule his choice and now her life style decision...but she's paying for it in many ways...both financial and emotionally!


Don't start with the "phobia" junk. Just because someone doesn't approve of something doesn't make them fearful. It's like saying your disapproval of your child's grades means you are afraid of the letter "C".

And there are just as many "ugly yeasayers" that ridicule those that don't jump on the bandwagon they support.

Don't ya get it? Neither of you is wrong - neither of you is right.

The wo-man can do whatever he/she/it wants...and we can all make a choice to like it, not like it, or be indifferent to it.

Either way, it changes NOTHING!

I just think there may be more pressing matters in the universe than what size implants this man received.

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Mon 06/01/15 08:12 PM
...but
she's paying for it in many ways...both
financial and emotionally!

Horse$hit.....


but did not have genital surgery.



He has a new reality show starting in July on E!.


Since this has brought out such a vile response from you, I would suggest that you force yourself to abstain from watching 'E TV'; pretty easy squeeze --- problem solved :banana:


RebelArcher stated >>>
Vile? In what way? A man is manilpulating people for his own finacial gain? Yep.....pretty vile.
Maybe Kris will let him bang RayJay and release THAT video also Seems to be THAT family's forte.

See you've just provided the very reason that I never could watch 'Momma Kardashian' and what she was doing 'PIMPing' out her daughters in the way that she did --- but that's my moral code of having issues with Kris Kardashian and her brood and stage momma behavior/antics = WHY I DON'T WATCH HER BROOD & THEIR TRASH TV SHOW! :wink:

"MANIPULATION"...to me would be if Bruce had asked to be paid for something that he hadn't planned on doing anyway...like obtaining some contribution money = donations!

If 'E TV' is going to pay him and they have sponsors willing to support that spin off for Caitlyn Jenner's show - whose business is it of OURS; no one will force you to watch it Rebel...change the channel!

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Mon 06/01/15 08:21 PM

The Kardashian family got to him...so to prove to himself that he was an equal or better & to get more spotlight...he became a woman...it could also be to compete with the rest of the women on that show in terms of fame & career


My sentiments exactly. Vagina envy, as someone mentioned here. He didn't look as pretty in that dress as Kim. Hey, it's just a theory... :angel:

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Mon 06/01/15 08:22 PM
this is the same guy I grew up watching Mr. Jenna the great Olympian Icon...the Jenna & the Kardashian clans...imagine Kris Jenna... the clans(Jenna& Kardashian)

If you grew up with the person, or if they were really all that important to your life....wouldn't you call then "Jenner" rather than "Jenna?" Since the former is actually their name?

what are your thinking or opinion on this issue

My thinking is that it's not really an issue or relevant to anything at all.

Now if someone decided they wanted to be something other than a man or woman, like deep down they felt they were an antelope, that would be an issue, especially if it was growing in frequency of occurrence.

Other than that, it seems the news is "Caitlyn" is on the cover of Vanity Fair.

My thinking or opinion on that issue is "people still buy magazines? Like paper with covers?"

Dwindling circulation and the death of print media and what it means for celebrities is a more interesting and bigger issue than celebrating plastic surgery IMO.




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Mon 06/01/15 08:23 PM

2old2 stated >>>
As with anything that has to do with issues that don't affect us directly but are issues that make usFEARFUL; there will be ugly naysayers and those that just ridicule his choice and now her life style decision...but she's paying for it in many ways...both financial and emotionally!

regularfeller stated >>>
Don't start with the "phobia" junk. Just because someone doesn't approve of something doesn't make them fearful. It's like saying your disapproval of your child's grades means you are afraid of the letter "C".

And there are just as many "ugly yeasayers" that ridicule those that don't jump on the bandwagon they support.

Don't ya get it? Neither of you is wrong - neither of you is right.

The wo-man can do whatever he/she/it wants...and we can all make a choice to like it, not like it, or be indifferent to it.

Either way, it changes NOTHING!

I just think there may be more pressing matters in the universe than what size implants this man received.


In order to enlist such a angry reaction from some HUMANS about a topic/thread that doesn't affect them either directly or indirectly - neither monetarily or physically the flipside of anger is 'FEAR'...hence there is a HUGE amount of FEAR MONGERING taking place about something that in the nanoseconds of space won't stop the humans from breathing!
And yet the over reactions and angst will just keep bubbling up like lava and spilling over! Solves nothing - and yet the reactions are predictable and telling! :tongue: :wink: drinker

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Mon 06/01/15 08:27 PM
Bruce Jenner as Caitlyn now, what do you think?

the title implies a request for peoples opinions

not approving doesn't mean being ugly and approving doesn't mean being better or more enlightened than those who don't,,,


of course , NEITHER opinion makes a difference in the realm of things, but in this thread where opinions were called for,, it apparently makes some difference or poses some interest to the person asking ,,,


just my two cents,,,carry on

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Mon 06/01/15 08:28 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Mon 06/01/15 08:29 PM

...but
she's paying for it in many ways...both
financial and emotionally!

Horse$hit.....


but did not have genital surgery.



He has a new reality show starting in July on E!.


Since this has brought out such a vile response from you, I would suggest that you force yourself to abstain from watching 'E TV'; pretty easy squeeze --- problem solved :banana:



RebelArcher stated >>>
Vile? In what way? A man is manilpulating people for his own finacial gain? Yep.....pretty vile.
Maybe Kris will let him bang RayJay and release THAT video also Seems to be THAT family's forte.

See you've just provided the very reason that I never could watch 'Momma Kardashian' and what she was doing 'PIMPing' out her daughters in the way that she did --- but that's my moral code of having issues with Kris Kardashian and her brood and stage momma behavior/antics = WHY I DON'T WATCH HER BROOD & THEIR TRASH TV SHOW! :wink:

"MANIPULATION"...to me would be if Bruce had asked to be paid for something that he hadn't planned on doing anyway...like obtaining some contribution money = donations!

If 'E TV' is going to pay him and they have sponsors willing to support that spin off for Caitlyn Jenner's show - whose business is it of OURS; no one will force you to watch it Rebel...change the channel!


Oh, not ONLY will I change the channel....I also will not publicly support, in ANY way, a 65 y/o MAN augmenting himself with breasts and maybe turnng his own penis inside out, and then proclaiming it to be 'normal' behavior.
Youre a 'no moral compass liberal' though....so knock yourself out. I expect nothing less from your ilk. Good day madam/sir.....How about that, I didnt even offend your sense of gender.

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Mon 06/01/15 08:31 PM
I look at it as i do any other thing,,why make a big deal about it..Its like when a gay man goes around flaming out in public,why? if i went in to a gay bar and sceamed i live to lick p****,the gay men would freak out and be very upset,and that iam wrong for even putting out my views to them..be who you are,but dont force it on me.

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Mon 06/01/15 08:35 PM
Sweetie, is that your granddaughter? You look so sweet together. Awwww smitten

2469nascar's photo
Mon 06/01/15 08:42 PM

Sweetie, is that your granddaughter? You look so sweet together. Awwww smitten
yes thats my grandbaby,shes paw paws fishen buddy..

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Mon 06/01/15 08:51 PM


It's a shame,
that he/she/it, didn't have the
decency, to just fade away.

Nothing to do with decency.
According to all his family he is the most wonderful
human being around, why should he hide?

He, has done nothing wrong, but showed his journey.
A great example for everyone.



Discretion, is the better part of valor.

It isn't so much what he did, it's the attention whoring and publicity he sought, in doing so.