Topic: Bruce Jenna As Caitlyn Now..What You Think?
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Mon 06/01/15 04:41 PM


i disagree, a very poor example for everyone...
it had it's fame when it won a gold medal, a
true hero then... now just a waste of time and
money...
Ill second that Moe.....






laugh


I Fourth that Moe
The minute he hooked up with Mr Kardasin's Esquire... EX wife & put his whole life on display with her and media ****** daughters, he BECAME a joke.

And that was before he developed or displayed " Cable TV vagina envy "
:banana:

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Mon 06/01/15 04:43 PM
Edited by mikeyspace4691 on Mon 06/01/15 04:43 PM

In reality, I really don't care what Jenner does. But I would have more respect for Jenner if he was documenting his change " for all to see".. for free. But he is not. He gets paid for this.

You see, when you get paid for something, you are not doing it as a public service. You are not doing it to help others who come after you or to document the "struggle"

You are doing it for money. It then becomes a commodity that you are selling.

So at that point, I loose all respect for him

But that is JMO


I'd have more respect for him if he would keep it to himself.. I don't wanna hear that crap..

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Mon 06/01/15 04:45 PM
fine w/ me just so my friend Caitlyn doesn't become a Bruce without telling me lol

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Mon 06/01/15 04:48 PM

I don't understand why it's Caitlyn and not Kaitlyn.


flowerforyou laugh Maybe he wanted to be separate himself from the Kardashians and all their "K" names. Good one!!! rofl

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Mon 06/01/15 04:50 PM


mightymoe stated >>>
is that your opinion? i take it i'm not allowed to have one? should i just agree with you and not worry about what i really think?


RegularFeller stated >>>
Amen Moe. Odd that those praising one man for expressing his individuality are casting aspersions on you for your expression of yours.

I think a man has an equal right to don a gown and get breasts or to wear a flannel shirt and sport a beard. I make the decision for neither nor am I required to approve of either.

One indisputable fact: his decision to become a transformer has zero bearing on my life.

While I may or may not disagree with your opinion, you are entitled to state that opinion without being denigrated.


No - NOOOO - NO - NO; don't go jumping to conclusions when you didn't ask me what/why I meant! When a 'MAN' makes comments about Bruce Jenner's Gold Medal performance and then starts referring to him as an 'IT' shocked in the next sentence it rather demeans the entire intent and degrades whatever follows!
RIGHT???
You did read my entire post...surely you did? slaphead
Don't make me drag out the chalk board and draw stick figures too...LOL grumble


can you think of a better term? weren't you all for gender fluidity? "it" covers the general gender fluidity issue, since it is neither male(anymore) or female(never can be)...

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Mon 06/01/15 04:59 PM
Edited by regularfeller on Mon 06/01/15 05:03 PM

No - NOOOO - NO - NO; don't go jumping to conclusions when you didn't ask me what/why I meant! When a 'MAN' makes comments about Bruce Jenner's Gold Medal performance and then starts referring to him as an 'IT' shocked in the next sentence it rather demeans the entire intent and degrades whatever follows!
RIGHT???
You did read my entire post...surely you did? slaphead
Don't make me drag out the chalk board and draw stick figures too...LOL grumble


I read a few posts that provoked my statement of support for EVERYONE, and Moe in particular, to speak their mind no matter their opinion or the POPULARITY of that opinion.

If people want to refer to this 67 year old man who is now a one month old, partially feminized male as him, her or "it", go ahead. It makes their opinion no less valid - it is an opinion for crying out loud.

Do people have this strong reaction at news of a pregnancy and someone asks, "what is it?"

But a chalk board would make it easier to rearrange the genitalia of the stick figures so I can better keep up with......the....kardashians?


BTW: My man boobs? They're real!

:laughing:

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Mon 06/01/15 05:03 PM


In reality, I really don't care what Jenner does. But I would have more respect for Jenner if he was documenting his change " for all to see".. for free. But he is not. He gets paid for this.

You see, when you get paid for something, you are not doing it as a public service. You are not doing it to help others who come after you or to document the "struggle"

You are doing it for money. It then becomes a commodity that you are selling.

So at that point, I loose all respect for him

But that is JMO


Could he be doing it for more than one reason?....


Could be.. but I doubt it. Based on his past history of making a living doing "reality" T.V.. I would think his core reason for documenting this " transformation" is for financial gain.

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Mon 06/01/15 05:03 PM
Can we refer to him as zhee?

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Mon 06/01/15 05:07 PM

Estelle asked >>>
I don't understand why it's Caitlyn and not Kaitlyn.

IamWhoIam stated >>>
flowerforyou laugh Maybe he wanted to be separate himself from the Kardashians and all their "K" names. Good one!!! rofl


THAT WAS A EXCELLENT COME BACK...

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Mon 06/01/15 05:09 PM
Woman, stop resisting me. I am getting that pink strap on with the strawberry flavor. Assume the position. love

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Mon 06/01/15 05:25 PM
IamWhoIam stated >>>
Woman, stop resisting me. I am getting that pink strap on with the strawberry flavor. Assume the position. love


WHOAAAAA, back there little missy; I don't swing that wayblushing

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Mon 06/01/15 05:30 PM
mightymoe stated >>>
can you think of a better term? weren't you all for gender fluidity? "it" covers the general gender fluidity issue, since it is neither male(anymore) or female(never can be)...



GENDER FLUIDITY = babies/children neither fit this criteria

Trans Gender Adult = he to she; Bruce to Caitlyn, she's gender identified now :wink:

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Mon 06/01/15 05:41 PM
I empathize with his confusion and his insecurities,,,,

I dont believe that having a doctor manipulate how you appear to others changes what you are,, he is still bruse and still a male

but he prefers to be called caitlyn,, fine

and he prefers to pretend he is a female, its up to society to participate in that delusion,,, each individual who knows him will probably do so out of respect for his CHOICE to live as if he were female,,,

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Mon 06/01/15 05:45 PM




That's funny..laugh

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Mon 06/01/15 05:49 PM

mightymoe stated >>>
can you think of a better term? weren't you all for gender fluidity? "it" covers the general gender fluidity issue, since it is neither male(anymore) or female(never can be)...



GENDER FLUIDITY = babies/children neither fit this criteria

Trans Gender Adult = he to she; Bruce to Caitlyn, she's gender identified now :wink:
no it's not... was a male, not a female... inbetween, as what i can tell

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Mon 06/01/15 05:54 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Mon 06/01/15 05:57 PM



In reality, I really don't care what Jenner does. But I would have more respect for Jenner if he was documenting his change " for all to see".. for free. But he is not. He gets paid for this.

You see, when you get paid for something, you are not doing it as a public service. You are not doing it to help others who come after you or to document the "struggle"

You are doing it for money. It then becomes a commodity that you are selling.

So at that point, I loose all respect for him

But that is JMO


Could he be doing it for more than one reason?....


Could be.. but I doubt it. Based on his past history of making a living doing "reality" T.V.. I would think his core reason for documenting this " transformation" is for financial gain.


Maybe some of the fault (responsibility?) lies with the entertainment industry and viewer ratings..They (media) wouldn't be buying if there wasn't a market...Plus, who's to say it won't be helpful to some men and women who struggle with gender identity...Kinda like "Biggest Loser"??...No pun intended:angel:

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Mon 06/01/15 05:56 PM
moe, gender identity is a cool new phrase created by the psychological association in the last generation that reflects ones 'sense of self as a male or female'


so he wishes his SEX (biological status) to appear to match his gender identity,,,, and to be identified no longer by his actual sex but by the gender identity he 'senses'


you have to check the APA every decade or so,, there are all types of new things being created or erased to fit society's desires and requests,,

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Mon 06/01/15 05:56 PM
Shes a very strong person for doing this and I support her 100%

She's beautiful

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Mon 06/01/15 05:59 PM

moe, gender identity is a cool new phrase created by the psychological association in the last generation that reflects ones 'sense of self as a male or female'


so he wishes his SEX (biological status) to appear to match his gender identity,,,, and to be identified no longer by his actual sex but by the gender identity he 'senses'


you have to check the APA every decade or so,, there are all types of new things being created or erased to fit society's desires and requests,,


i don't know what that means, but it's sexless now...

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Mon 06/01/15 06:25 PM

moe, gender identity is a cool new phrase created by the psychological association in the last generation that reflects ones 'sense of self as a male or female'


so he wishes his SEX (biological status) to appear to match his gender identity,,,, and to be identified no longer by his actual sex but by the gender identity he 'senses'


you have to check the APA every decade or so,, there are all types of new things being created or erased to fit society's desires and requests,,


" Biological status " is the way he was born. How it sees itself is "identity"

"Created or erased ", :thumbsup:
You said it... erased a penis & created a quasi vagina.
Over 65 yrs old, who knows how many women as sex partners, 3 marriages & 6 biological children.
Between his career, family life & fortune he certainly had a busy identify already.