you would be surprised at how many women think the same as you.

I agree until this statement



Not sure if this is how you meant it (if not I apologize) but men are capable of taking care of themselves just as women are. That would be equal under feminism IMO

Heck I know men who cook better than me and love to cook. More power to them. In all of my relationships, the men did most of the cooking and I would do all the cleaning (love to clean)

I would never want my partner or husband to come home from work then cook his own meal or clean anything. he would have to sit relax after a hard days work and break open a bottle of red with the dinner I cooked him and a hot bath I ran for him. I know it sounds old fashioned but its a sign of appreciation on my part. for what he does for me.

i like to cook, but the cleaning part... ugh ... i always clean everything almost as soon as i'm done with it, so i can relax afterwards sooner

That is not a counter argument. You did the housekeeping and childcare while he provided financially, this is exactly what I said.

I respect that 100% and I would love the same, but with the economy sometimes both have to work. If both work, both should help at home.

But that doesn't mean a man can't cook, clean, etc. My son was raised to be independent because he might have to do it all or at least help in a relationship.

You asked who else is going to look after a man. A man can do that just fine. Mom, girlfriend, wife, etc won't aleays be there

Maybe your post was just worded differently than what you meant

I ALSO said later I went to work THEN got divorced later. I did both while married.

It was my choice to stay at home. I could have gotten a job for my own money at anytime. And he was always appreciative

If a woman is staying at home, a man HAS to work to provide. It's an equal job

i just ignore the feminists... whatever they are not happy about, has nothing to do with me... so they can be unhappy alone

AHA! Thank YOU for your comment!

I believe what you say, but I don't think women realize what is at stake.

Whether women want to realize it or not - all of western civilization, all of the cities which men have built... they have done this because they honoured, respected, loved and wanted to protect their women. They died in the millions defending them.

But just take a look at the title of this forum post. Are you a Sexist or a Feminist? It's as if just by being a man and standing up for masculinity, I become a sexist. I am attacked. But a feminist can stand up for women and she must be celebrated. Can you say inequality?

But hopefully, most women who are reading these posts will understand - feminism has been ENGRAINED in our culture now. Currently, there are more women in university than men, men are being pushed out of jobs to make room for women, and if men behave like anything other than "good little boys" they are treated as scum.

So... it's over. Men are being pushed aside, and the result is that movements like MGTOW are only going to grow. And since men are no longer willing to sit at the table to argue with the feminists, it's going to be up to all of the women left to decide what kind of civilization they want.

Choose wisely girls... you don't get a second chance.

There are women who make more than the man and the man decides to be the homemaker.

Women can work if they want to. Men can be homemakers if they want to. Both can work if they want to

I see nothing wrong with that either. If feminists want equality,then it needs to be equal for both genders...just saying

:-) Dang... you figured me out.

It's true, I ignore them mostly as well... but I'm nervous about the whole MGTOW movement. It's enticing to just walk away from your 'manly' responsibilities and live life like a feminist.

I think I've swallowed the purple pill.

Cheers!

Isn't that viagra? No...that's the bill pill. Never mind...carry on

in my house all my kids have to learn how to use the washer and cook and do all of that because when they move out I need them to be able to look after themselves, they all know how to change a nappy and how to feed a baby, but my son also knows if he has a family he must provide for them. he has been grown up with the old fashioned values that I think keeps a relationship strong. I mean he might do something different that's up to him, and that goes for my younger son too. my daughter I've grown her up telling her she must do what she wants in life before settling down with someone. the reason I do this is because she has also been grown up with old fashioned views and she will have to put her family first. that's if she wants too all could change when she grows up. I will also tell her to pick wisely.

Interesting how you went from this post to the diatribe about 'PATRIARCIAL' society/birth control pills/'slut rants' at a Canadian march to comparing what Canada is trying to do with their hiring practices to American employer standards!

And all you were able to grasp {doubtful that you read my entire post} about what it was like growing up in the late 60's if you only garnered that we 'were tired of 'raising children/cooking meals/washing dishes/cleaning'...yes indeed the entire jest of what types of jobs and the work force placement skills we were offered 'ZOOMED' right over your head! What a shame!

Your grasp of the reality of what it was like growing up 'FEMALE' in AMERICA is lost on you and I won't waste anymore time trying to explain the facts when you've closed that mind.

Life in America for women working beside and with their husbands meant being all that they could be; sharing the load and god forbid that something happened to that bread winner and the wife was expected to fill in because there wasn't any OPTION for equal pay for her to do that! GOT IT? That's where the crux of the problem for equality becomes a vital issue when the #1 bread earner is now no longer able to do that job then the #2 person yoked to that marriage makes it her choice to FILL IN! Where were those jobs going to be - where was that equal pay going to come from?
Even during the war effort when the women became the 'Rosie Riveters' stepped up and became welders/pipe fitters/test pilots/machinist/painters/carpenters etc., etc., etc., they weren't getting the same wages as the men had been when they left for the war! And when the men came home the women got bumped off of those jobs; some did and some didn't - depended on the jobs but they still weren't making what the men had!
Never mind - you won't be reading this and without a interrupter it won't matter --- you'll twist it into something that I didn't say!

EQUALITY = equal in a marriage - equal in a job description = in a job pay scale! Seems pretty simplistic and yet we keep having to explain it over & over & over again to many that just can't get it! But will refer to one angry women in a march in Canada as a 'SLUT' --- now that speaks volumes! WHOOOEYYYY BABY!!!

That's fine and I respect that. But my point is a man CAN take care of themselves (different than how you posted it)

Glad we cleared that up

how do we know shes not a slut?

on the other side of the coin if something were to happen to the main breadwinner then the other would have to be strong to deal with that too.

Exactly. My dad died when I was 7 and sis was 9. My mom had to go back to work to support 2 young daughters. We weren't rich or spoiled but we had what we needed and always got xmas presents etc.

that is a strong woman right there.

Yes ma'am. Good woman too. I am 43 and have a mouth on me. She will still lecture me.