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Topic: They is Heaven And hell.
SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 03/31/15 08:31 PM Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Tue 03/31/15 08:33 PM


Ladywind7 Joined Sun 04/08/12 Posts: 7833	Wed 04/01/15 03:05 PM
God rang the pope and declared "I have good news and bad news. The good news is I am going to make only one religion from here on in" "Wonderful" said the pope in delight. "But what is the bad news? God replied "I am ringing you from Salt Lake City."

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 04/01/15 04:01 PM
I've yet to hear from the actual Mormon Community, but I'm certain if any have read this joke... They're in stiches now !

Ladywind7 Joined Sun 04/08/12 Posts: 7833	Wed 04/01/15 04:34 PM
I've yet to hear from the actual Mormon Community, but I'm certain if any have read this joke... They're in stiches now ! I could not help myself, it will probably get me a warning, but it was worth it lol.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 04/01/15 04:55 PM
Why... ? Do You fear the fury of the Mormons ? (Nobody's Door-Step Is Safe)

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Thu 04/02/15 05:38 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 04/02/15 02:03 PM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 04/02/15 06:55 PM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in.

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Fri 04/03/15 01:41 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in. I was asking about this.. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. So what u r saying every one is the OT is lost. Is this what u r saying. No grace in the OT?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 04/03/15 05:50 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in. I was asking about this.. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. So what u r saying every one is the OT is lost. Is this what u r saying. No grace in the OT? There was no grace in the OT, that's the difference between the old covenant and the new. The old, one was saved by works, it was an eye for an eye. In the new covenant we are saved by faith, by God's almighty grace and love. There is nothing greater you can do then what Jesus already has done for us on the cross.

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Fri 04/03/15 06:35 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in. I was asking about this.. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. So what u r saying every one is the OT is lost. Is this what u r saying. No grace in the OT? There was no grace in the OT, that's the difference between the old covenant and the new. The old, one was saved by works, it was an eye for an eye. In the new covenant we are saved by faith, by God's almighty grace and love. There is nothing greater you can do then what Jesus already has done for us on the cross. King David did not receive grace. Lot is not called Righteous Lot in the NT. I must of missed something. Since Jesus I hear was god and he had to correct things then he sinned because he made a mistake. Yep no grace for anyone

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 04/03/15 06:43 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in. I was asking about this.. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. So what u r saying every one is the OT is lost. Is this what u r saying. No grace in the OT? There was no grace in the OT, that's the difference between the old covenant and the new. The old, one was saved by works, it was an eye for an eye. In the new covenant we are saved by faith, by God's almighty grace and love. There is nothing greater you can do then what Jesus already has done for us on the cross. King David did not receive grace. Lot is not called Righteous Lot in the NT. I must of missed something. Since Jesus I hear was god and he had to correct things then he sinned because he made a mistake. Yep no grace for anyone Because Lot wasn't righteous, there is only one that is righteous and that is Jesus Christ. Any bit of our righteousness is only purely through Jesus Christ and because of what he has done for us and not of what we have done. Please do be more specific in the reference to King David, verses perhaps as to not have a misunderstanding on what you are referencing.

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Fri 04/03/15 07:30 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in. I was asking about this.. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. So what u r saying every one is the OT is lost. Is this what u r saying. No grace in the OT? There was no grace in the OT, that's the difference between the old covenant and the new. The old, one was saved by works, it was an eye for an eye. In the new covenant we are saved by faith, by God's almighty grace and love. There is nothing greater you can do then what Jesus already has done for us on the cross. King David did not receive grace. Lot is not called Righteous Lot in the NT. I must of missed something. Since Jesus I hear was god and he had to correct things then he sinned because he made a mistake. Yep no grace for anyone Because Lot wasn't righteous, there is only one that is righteous and that is Jesus Christ. Any bit of our righteousness is only purely through Jesus Christ and because of what he has done for us and not of what we have done. Please do be more specific in the reference to King David, verses perhaps as to not have a misunderstanding on what you are referencing. apparently Peter did not understand 2 Peter 2 7 7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: KJV their is a lot about Yahshua's Grandfather. The root of Jesse , King David. Prove all things. Shalom

cheechako Joined Tue 05/14/13 Posts: 735	Fri 04/03/15 07:42 AM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? When I read this scripture with Rev 20: 4-6 and 1Thessalonians: 4:16, I believe David will be resurrected when Christ returns to set up his world government. Until then he is dead, which is like sleeping. He is out of the picture until the resurrection.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 04/03/15 04:10 PM
Well Cheechako, did You bother to read the versus I've posted ? I'd actually recommend that You read the versus following and previous to these references as well. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I've often wondered about how or why an Almighty God would see-fit to incarcerate Souls to time-indefinite, till I read something in the Quran that seemed to put it all into perspective. (Surah 32: 10-14) You see, to the same extent Mankind choses to forget about God in this life... God will permit the Angels to forget about those who were never mindful or grateful to the True God. I think the key to understanding eternal punishment, is to determine if man has an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul can die James 5:20. The Bible says, man is mortal, your soul is mortal. Immortality is a gift from God that you have to earn. Only those who keep the commandments of God will be given immortality.Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. King David is Dead and knows nothing. Has his name been forgotten? He will not come back to life? questions are answer chronologically. 1. Depends on who you speak to. 2. Depends on God's judgement on the person in itself What does either of those two questions have anything to do specifically with the discussion at hand? Further more, Ecclesiastes 9:5 is old testament. Old covenant. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. One could be a total entire saint and follow exactly every law of the scriptures. But if they do not believe Jesus Christ to be Lord and savior, our God, their actions and faith therein are in vein. Ecclesiastes and the entire covenant therein is entirely fulfilled, completed, finished, and has no more power over us. It has no baring on us anymore, has no power, has no authority, has nothing to do with us at all in any way shape or form. Yes we are mortal, we were born to die naturally so to speak. But that is why God offers eternal life through his sacrifice he made for us on the cross. Again our salvation or anything of relevance today has absolutely nothing to do with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Again yes were are now mortal since the fall of mankind from the Garden. But that is why Jesus came and offered himself so we could have eternal life and return to that paradise we were once ment to reside in. I was asking about this.. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. So what u r saying every one is the OT is lost. Is this what u r saying. No grace in the OT? There was no grace in the OT, that's the difference between the old covenant and the new. The old, one was saved by works, it was an eye for an eye. In the new covenant we are saved by faith, by God's almighty grace and love. There is nothing greater you can do then what Jesus already has done for us on the cross. King David did not receive grace. Lot is not called Righteous Lot in the NT. I must of missed something. Since Jesus I hear was god and he had to correct things then he sinned because he made a mistake. Yep no grace for anyone Because Lot wasn't righteous, there is only one that is righteous and that is Jesus Christ. Any bit of our righteousness is only purely through Jesus Christ and because of what he has done for us and not of what we have done. Please do be more specific in the reference to King David, verses perhaps as to not have a misunderstanding on what you are referencing. apparently Peter did not understand 2 Peter 2 7 7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: KJV their is a lot about Yahshua's Grandfather. The root of Jesse , King David. Prove all things. Shalom Ok, I do apologize. Don't know what I was thinking when I made that comment. The scriptures do says that God considered a righteous man for what he had done.

prophetic774 Joined Thu 02/17/11 Posts: 3	Mon 05/18/15 07:37 PM
The 7th day Adventists believe as per Ellen White's teaching in the very Satanic doctrine of Annihilation instead of eternal torment in hell. Jesus said 7 times in the New Testament that there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell in Matthew 8:12; 13:42; 13:50; 22:13; 24:51; 25:30 and Luke 13:28. Matthew 13:43: Jesus says, "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be WEEPING and GNASHING of TEETH. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear!!" Interesting Question How can someone weep and gnash his teeth if he has been annihilated ??? Revelation 14:9-11: If anyone worships the Beast {666} and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury...He will be tormented with burning sulfur ... and the smoke of their torment rises FOR EVER AND EVER.. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the Beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. Revelation 19:19,20; 20:10: But the Beast will be captured and with him the False Prophet, who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf {See Rev 13:10-17]. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the Beast and worshipped his image. The two of them were thrown ALIVE into the fierylake of burning sulfur....And the Devil who deceived them, will be thrown alive into the lake of burning sulfur, where the Beast and the False Prophet had been thrown. They will be TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER !! Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches..I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone ADDS* anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER} And if anyone TAKES WORDS AWAY {Like Ellen White and the SDA} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 05/18/15 08:39 PM
If god was so successful why is hell even necessary .. Just another form of social control. Hell is merely a temporary holding place. Jesus went to Hell 3 days eg., was in the grave 3 days. People will be resurrected from Hell for Judgement thus raised from the grave. How in any way is that social control? Everyone will go to Hell at one point or other, unless they/we just so happen to be living when Jesus returns.

Jesusmyall Joined Fri 04/26/13 Posts: 265	Tue 05/19/15 11:09 AM
If god was so successful why is hell even necessary .. Just another form of social control. Hell is merely a temporary holding place. Jesus went to Hell 3 days eg., was in the grave 3 days. People will be resurrected from Hell for Judgement thus raised from the grave. How in any way is that social control? Everyone will go to Hell at one point or other, unless they/we just so happen to be living when Jesus returns. No sir!!!! Hell is not a temporary place! That contradicts very clearly, what the Bible says about hell! Yes, all men will be judged but once a soul's misses heaven, that soul spends eternity in hell. There are only two places and each of those places is forever!!!!

Jesusmyall Joined Fri 04/26/13 Posts: 265	Tue 05/19/15 11:15 AM
If god was so successful why is hell even necessary .. Just another form of social control. Hell is merely a temporary holding place. Jesus went to Hell 3 days eg., was in the grave 3 days. People will be resurrected from Hell for Judgement thus raised from the grave. How in any way is that social control? Everyone will go to Hell at one point or other, unless they/we just so happen to be living when Jesus returns. No sir!!!! Hell is not a temporary place! That contradicts very clearly, what the Bible says about hell! Yes, all men will be judged but once a soul's misses heaven, that soul spends eternity in hell. There are only two places and each of those places is forever!!!! And also, sir, not everyone will go to hell. Only those who reject God's offer of salvation through JESUS CHRIST will go to hell. ( Christian - Bible)

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/19/15 04:22 PM
If god was so successful why is hell even necessary .. Just another form of social control. Hell is merely a temporary holding place. Jesus went to Hell 3 days eg., was in the grave 3 days. People will be resurrected from Hell for Judgement thus raised from the grave. How in any way is that social control? Everyone will go to Hell at one point or other, unless they/we just so happen to be living when Jesus returns. No sir!!!! Hell is not a temporary place! That contradicts very clearly, what the Bible says about hell! Yes, all men will be judged but once a soul's misses heaven, that soul spends eternity in hell. There are only two places and each of those places is forever!!!! Oh but it is temporary for it will be thrown into the lake of fire. Hell is the grave, the waiting place for judgement. Revelations 20 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.