Topic: Criticizing the President
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Wed 03/04/15 06:13 AM

Obama has not turned anything around. all the government does is falsify statistics to make it look like he is doing good. unemployment is way higher than they tell you it is, look at the facts and how they came up with those numbers. im sorry I hate to be confrontational but you really are delusional. look at Obama before he became president, he went on the ellen degenerous show promoting his health care. he said its optional(complete BS) obamacare is so much more dangerous than people realize. our hospitals are going to be run like the dmv center in your area, so if you call that improved healthcare, once again you are delusional. gitmo is still open. all the troops aren't home from war. he resigned the patriot act to keep spying on americans. Obama claims hes all about "transparency" HAHAHA r u kidding me wow wake up msharmony, I am sorry to say but if Obama was white you would probably be criticizing him, like I said any person of color will stand by him no matter what. black people just love him cause he is black, and Spanish people love him cuz he lets them illegally come here, and then gives them rights that our ancestors died for so we can have. and all this race crap is BS. they always promote racism to keep the people fighting with eachother, so they don't realize who the real enemy is. its called divide and conquer and I must say its working brilliantly. msharmony I would love for you to inform me on how Obama is good for this country, name a few things that he promised to do, and actually did when he became president. and please before you respond and tell me all the great things he has done, do some research that doesn't come from the main stream news and brian Williams, obviously main stream news cant be trusted. so please tell me all the great things he has done, with facts to back it up.


and there we have it

a distrust in the sources that report allows us no real room for discussion

1st, presidents rarely 'promise' anything, thats a modern spin media puts on their statements when they run on what they are going to attempt to do,, persidents cant PROMISE because they dont have singlar authority and must work with the consensus of 100s of others in the government(congress)

2nd, you can easily research what things he stated that have been accomplished,but why would you bother when any positive report is by its nature going to therefore have its source questioned?

I doubt I 'trust' the same disgruntled non authenticated types of sources that others give credit to just because they line up with their preconceptions,,,,



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Wed 03/04/15 06:46 AM


Obama has not turned anything around. all the government does is falsify statistics to make it look like he is doing good. unemployment is way higher than they tell you it is, look at the facts and how they came up with those numbers. im sorry I hate to be confrontational but you really are delusional. look at Obama before he became president, he went on the ellen degenerous show promoting his health care. he said its optional(complete BS) obamacare is so much more dangerous than people realize. our hospitals are going to be run like the dmv center in your area, so if you call that improved healthcare, once again you are delusional. gitmo is still open. all the troops aren't home from war. he resigned the patriot act to keep spying on americans. Obama claims hes all about "transparency" HAHAHA r u kidding me wow wake up msharmony, I am sorry to say but if Obama was white you would probably be criticizing him, like I said any person of color will stand by him no matter what. black people just love him cause he is black, and Spanish people love him cuz he lets them illegally come here, and then gives them rights that our ancestors died for so we can have. and all this race crap is BS. they always promote racism to keep the people fighting with eachother, so they don't realize who the real enemy is. its called divide and conquer and I must say its working brilliantly. msharmony I would love for you to inform me on how Obama is good for this country, name a few things that he promised to do, and actually did when he became president. and please before you respond and tell me all the great things he has done, do some research that doesn't come from the main stream news and brian Williams, obviously main stream news cant be trusted. so please tell me all the great things he has done, with facts to back it up.


and there we have it

a distrust in the sources that report allows us no real room for discussion

1st, presidents rarely 'promise' anything, thats a modern spin media puts on their statements when they run on what they are going to attempt to do,, persidents cant PROMISE because they dont have singlar authority and must work with the consensus of 100s of others in the government(congress)

2nd, you can easily research what things he stated that have been accomplished,but why would you bother when any positive report is by its nature going to therefore have its source questioned?

I doubt I 'trust' the same disgruntled non authenticated types of sources that others give credit to just because they line up with their preconceptions,,,,



haha really Obama cant use singular authority? what planet are you living on? wow I am not even gonna bother with you after this. Obama acts like a dictator, all he does is use singular action because no one will go along with his retarted policies. ever heard of executive orders, Obama is famous for them. and I see you haven't come back with any facts on the good things Obama has done since he came into office, cant say im disappointed because you cant do the impossible! gitmo still open! troops still in Iraq and afghan! I can keep going but theres no need to. your argument is baseless, like I said I am not the slightest bit racist, but black people will support Obama with anything cause there just so happy to finally have a black president, so if he screws up majorly you will still defend him. patriot act NDAA obamascare. if Obama is such a great politician then why is Chicago such a shi* hole now a days. he didn't do any good as a senator and a worse job as a president. im not going to argue this anymore, please do some research before you praise barry, hes like bush on steroids! you obviously watch too much news on the television that's why your point of view is distorted. Obama using executive orders on things that the federal government has no business being involved in. please just do some real research before you praise this guy and the job hes doing. hes terrible. remember when he said he wanted to fundamentally transform this country, well he is transforming it into a third world country. Obama is a snake and im sorry but if you think hes doing a good job you must have a few screws lose. no offense, im not trying to be mean but all I asked was for you to find me some things Obama said he was going to do before he became president that he actually followed through with, and of course you came back with nothing but pointless jibber jabber trying to defend him.

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Wed 03/04/15 07:32 AM
I posted this once before. Personally I feel this says a lot about America.

http://kstreet607.com/2013/06/21/a-canadians-view-on-our-disrespect-of-president-obamas-presidency/


America – He’s Your President for Goodness Sake!

By William Thomas

There was a time not so long ago when Americans, regardless of their political stripes, rallied round their president. Once elected, the man who won the White House was no longer viewed as a republican or democrat, but the President of the United States. The oath of office was taken, the wagons were circled around the country’s borders and it was America versus the rest of the world with the president of all the people at the helm.

Suddenly President Barack Obama, with the potential to become an exceptional president has become the glaring exception to that unwritten, patriotic rule.

Four days before President Obama’s inauguration, before he officially took charge of the American government, Rush Limbaugh boasted publicly that he hoped the president would fail. Of course, when the president fails the country flounders. Wishing harm upon your country in order to further your own narrow political views is selfish, sinister and a tad treasonous as well.

Subsequently, during his State of the Union address, which is pretty much a pep rally for America, an unknown congressional representative from South Carolina, later identified as Joe Wilson, stopped the show when he called the President of the United States a liar. The president showed great restraint in ignoring this unprecedented insult and carried on with his speech. Speaker Nancy Pelosi was so stunned by the slur, she forgot to jump to her feet while clapping wildly, 30 or 40 times after that.

Last spring, President Obama took his wife Michelle to see a play in New York City and republicans attacked him over the cost of security for the excursion. The president can’t take his wife out to dinner and a show without being scrutinized by the political opposition? As history has proven, a president in a theatre without adequate security is a tragically bad idea.

Remember: “Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?”

At some point, the treatment of President Obama went from offensive to ugly and then to downright dangerous.

The health-care debate, which looked more like extreme fighting in a mud pit than a national dialogue, revealed a very vulgar side of America. President Obama’s face appeared on protest signs white-faced and blood-mouthed in a satanic clown image. In other tasteless portrayals, people who disagreed with his position distorted his face to look like Hitler complete with mustache and swastika.

Odd, that burning the flag makes Americans crazy, but depicting the president as a clown and a maniacal fascist is accepted as part of the new rude America.

Maligning the image of the leader of the free world is one thing, putting the president’s life in peril is quite another. More than once, men with guns were videotaped at the health-care rallies where the president spoke. Again, history shows that letting men with guns get within range of a president has not served America well in the past.

And still the “birthers” are out there claiming Barack Obama was not born in the United States, although public documentation proves otherwise. Hawaii is definitely part of the United States, but the Panama Canal Zone where his electoral opponent Senator John McCain was born? Nobody’s sure.

Last month, a 44-year-old woman in Buffalo was quite taken by President Obama when she met him in a chicken wing restaurant called Duff’s. Did she say something about a pleasure and an honour to meet the man or utter encouraging words for the difficult job he is doing? No. Quote: “You’re a hottie with a smokin’ little body.”

Lady, that was the President of the United States you were addressing, not one of the Jonas Brothers! He’s your president for goodness sakes, not the guy driving the Zamboni at “Monster Trucks On Ice.” Maybe next it’ll be, “Take Your President To A Topless Bar Day.”

In President Barack Obama, Americans have a charismatic leader with a good and honest heart. Unlike his predecessor, he’s a very intelligent leader. And unlike that president’s predecessor, he’s a highly moral man.

In President Obama, Americans have the real deal, the whole package and a leader that citizens of almost every country around the world look to with great envy. Given the opportunity, Canadians would trade our leader, hell, most of our leaders for Obama in a heartbeat.

What America has in Obama is a head of state with vitality and insight and youth. Think about it, Barack Obama is a young Nelson Mandela. Mandela was the face of change and charity for all of Africa but he was too old to make it happen. The great things Obama might do for America and the world could go on for decades after he’s out of office.

America, you know not what you have.

The man is being challenged unfairly, characterized with vulgarity and treated with the kind of deep disrespect to which no previous president was subjected. It’s like the day after electing the first black man to be president, thereby electrifying the world with hope and joy, Americans sobered up and decided the bad old days were better.

President Obama may fail but it will not be a Richard Nixon default fraught with larceny and lies. President Obama, given a fair chance, will surely succeed but his triumph will never come with a Bill Clinton caveat – “if only he’d got control of that zipper.”

Please. Give the man a fair, fighting chance. This incivility toward the leader who won over Americans and gave hope to billions of people around the world that their lives could be enhanced by his example, just naturally has to stop.

Believe me, when Americans drive by the White House and see a sign on the lawn that reads: “No shirt. No shoes. No service,” they’ll realize this new national rudeness has gone way, way too far.

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Wed 03/04/15 08:16 AM


Please. Give the man a fair, fighting chance. This incivility toward the leader who won over Americans and gave hope to billions of people around the world that their lives could be enhanced by his example, just naturally has to stop.


For 6 years he has done his best to destroy America, the peoples rights, health care, education, manufacturing, jobs, our military and our standing in the world.....and you think he needs a "chance" to continue when he already considers the peoples legislature, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and basic laws passe'? And let's not forget the lying that ensues with each flapping of his lips!

He's a poster child for habituality when it comes to lies and deception!

And you wonder why he is criticized slaphead

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Wed 03/04/15 08:40 AM




I think it's important to remember that and the end of the day and regardless of your political view, he is a human being, who other human beings love and need.

I have no doubt that there are some who don't like him because of his colour but there are also some black people who like to remind us of the mistakes our grandfathers made.

Both have to stop because it leads to divide and we meet each other with cynicism and distrust and only when both sides stop will we ALL learn to live in harmony and the word colour, in this context, will become a thing of the past.


I agree with the colour being a primary reason some hate him or love him.

I also wish people could talk about 'colour' without it being taken as an immediate personal affront. History cant be changed but it has REAL impact on the present that shouldnt be ignored just to avoid unpleasant converations either.

when we speak more in terms of the system and the demographics instead of individual bigotry,,, we get further to finding solutions that can continue the progress thats been made

if we avoid that,, we are in danger of regressing back to those past INSTITUTIONAL wrongs or allowing them to grow again,,,

I don't agree. I believe in forgive and forget. What's done is done. We learn from our past mistakes and move on.
Over 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis and they remember the lost with dignity.
Perhaps some people have a chip on their shoulder the size of the Empire State so they don't want to forget.




how do we learn from mistakes by 'forgetting' them?

why do we bother to study history if it has no relevance or importance to the present?

Jews got the united nation to GIVE THEM THEIR OWN COUNTRY,, and they continue to have much of the wealth in this country,,, this is not GErmany, this is AMerica,, so what is relevant here has nothing to do with jews who weren't persecuted on any grand scale here,,,

unlike many other groups

I wont compare tragedies,, but its not the same thing at all...

As anyone would see from my first comment on this topic, my message was simply one of hope. Your reply was one of continued ignorance.
Yes Jews were not persecuted in America but they were persecuted.
I also said we should learn from our mistakes and move on which I think most people have.

Your president is the leader of the most powerful nation on earth so ignorance was obviously not a problem for him.

To quote another great black man.
I knew as I walked to the gates that would lead to my freedom, if I didn't leave the past behind I would always be in prison.
Nelson Mandela

Without being personal, you Msharmony, are still in prison.











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Wed 03/04/15 08:55 AM
thank you sojourning_soul, atleast there is people on here that aren't sucking barrys di*k. and happiness2u, once again, do you live on planet earth? cause if you do its very easy to see Obama hates America and is doing his best to destroy it. feel bad for him all you want, cuz hes black, or just cuz hes a terrible president. you can type as many kind hearted words about Obama as you want, but were not going by your words, were going by his actions. and his actions up until now are nothing short of treasonous. o yea the day of obamas inauguration, when he couldn't even recite the words to be sworn in, he had to ask the person to repeat the words when he was swearing in because he didn't even know the oath he was taking, that's when I knew we were in real trouble. he doesn't care about America at all, that's why he is destroying it, on purpose. so sick of people talking about "give him a chance" and "your just racist", hes been in office over 6 years, name 5 positive things that came from Obama becoming president.. ill bet ya cant, because there is no good things to name. unless u say Obamacare, that's a positive, yea turning our hospitals into your average DMV is a great thing for this country. and immigration reform, were trillions of dollars in debt and americans can barely find jobs the way it is, but yet he is letting our country be flooded with ILLEGAL immigrants that's are going to raise the crime rate, the welfare rate, the unemployment rate, like seriously what good has Obama done? because im not seeing it.

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Wed 03/04/15 09:05 AM

thank you sojourning_soul, atleast there is people on here that aren't sucking barrys di*k. and happiness2u, once again, do you live on planet earth? cause if you do its very easy to see Obama hates America and is doing his best to destroy it. feel bad for him all you want, cuz hes black, or just cuz hes a terrible president. you can type as many kind hearted words about Obama as you want, but were not going by your words, were going by his actions. and his actions up until now are nothing short of treasonous. o yea the day of obamas inauguration, when he couldn't even recite the words to be sworn in, he had to ask the person to repeat the words when he was swearing in because he didn't even know the oath he was taking, that's when I knew we were in real trouble. he doesn't care about America at all, that's why he is destroying it, on purpose. so sick of people talking about "give him a chance" and "your just racist", hes been in office over 6 years, name 5 positive things that came from Obama becoming president.. ill bet ya cant, because there is no good things to name. unless u say Obamacare, that's a positive, yea turning our hospitals into your average DMV is a great thing for this country. and immigration reform, were trillions of dollars in debt and americans can barely find jobs the way it is, but yet he is letting our country be flooded with ILLEGAL immigrants that's are going to raise the crime rate, the welfare rate, the unemployment rate, like seriously what good has Obama done? because im not seeing it.
I'm not even an American and I know that you're speaking the truth Tomato and you speak from the heart, not blinded by the light, as some who have commented on here? I can't stand my own Prime Minister, David Cameron, as the guy is a waste of space! The British government stinks and only cares about their own, not Joe public, who elected them!

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Wed 03/04/15 09:08 AM
happiness2u: "In President Obama, Americans have the real deal, the whole package and a leader that citizens of almost every country around the world look to with great envy. Given the opportunity, Canadians would trade our leader, hell, most of our leaders for Obama in a heartbeat." are we talking about the same Obama that has to stand behind a foot a bulletproof glass when he makes speeches in other countries? because hes so "loved" that's why people in other countries boo him cause they love him, give me a break. if other countries people love Obama so much why does he need like 1000 marines to protect him everywhere he goes, and why does he have to stand behind bulletproof glass when hes giving speeches if hes so "loved". hell you wanna trade for Obama, you cant just have him, we don't want your corrupt leaders either. happiness2u, yea Obama is doing awesome, 16trillion in debt, and he has the nerve to go to Africa for 1 week at a cost of 100,000,000 million dollars. 100 million dollars for a week long vacation to Africa? r u kidding me. who cares tho its not like Obama pays for it, us taxpayers pay for it... if this a$$hole spent half as much time working than he does golfing and going on vacation he might actually accomplish something. now hes trying to ban armor piercing ammo, so when his troops show up at your house to confiscate your only means of protection, you will be shi* out of luck. I can go on and on about all the ILLEGAL things that Obama has been doing but frankly I don't feel like typing that much.

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Wed 03/04/15 09:10 AM
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president... is morally treasonable to the American public.

Theodore Roosevelt

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Wed 03/04/15 09:22 AM
messi_is_a_tim_1888( some people just cant see whats right in front of their face, its sad how dumbed down and complacent people have become over the years. trading freedom for safety, which is complete BS the more freedoms you lose, the less safe you are. and don't worry messi_is_a_tim_1888, joe public probably didn't even vote Cameron in, they have been fixing elections for a long time now. the people who are the "voters", are the billionaires that meet with the Bilderberg group every couple years, that's where our president and your prime minister is chosen, not by we the people, but by the billionaires whos greed has this country ripped apart in the first place. funny how the Bilderberg group denied that there even was such a group for how many years, until they got caught, now they say that they do meet but were not allowed to know what goes on in these meetings. the whole world is *ucked, but id gladly put a 9mm in my own head before becoming a slave to my government.

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Wed 03/04/15 09:28 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Wed 03/04/15 10:07 AM
How about we criticize Obama's latest screw up?...A nuclear deal with Iran!...Fools never learn...Iran agrees not to finalize the production of a nuclear weapon FOR 10 YEARS and in the meantime Obama paves their way to nuclear with the best asphalt money can buy!...The question all you HARD CORE Obama supporters should be asking yourselves is, "Why is giving Iran nuclear so damn important to this president?"...And before those of you who "have his back" answer, do a little research...It will confirm the FACT that up until Obama took office the official position of the US was (and still is) NO NUCLEAR FOR IRAN...!!...He has all but destroyed our relationship with Israel...The man is a travesty...


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Wed 03/04/15 09:35 AM

How about we criticize Obama's latest screw up?...A nuclear deal with Iran!...Fools never learn...Iran agrees not to finalize the production of a nuclear weapon FOR 10 YEARS and in the meantime Obama paves their way to nuclear with the best asphalt money can buy!...The question all you HARD CORE Obama supporters should be asking yourselves is, "Why is giving Iran nuclear no damn important to this president?"...And before those of you who "have his back" answer, do a little research...It will confirm the FACT that up until Obama took office the official position of the US was (and still is) NO NUCLEAR FOR IRAN...!!...He has all but destroyed our relationship with Israel...The man is a travesty...


well spoken leigh, iran def. should not have a nuclear weapon. we all know what will happen when they get it. but like you said Obama doesn't care about this country only his own agendas. makes me sick all the crimes he has committed and people still try to defend him... its not cause hes black, has nothing to do with that. its because hes a terrible president whos going to be remembered in history as the president who decimated the constitution and turned us into a 3rd world country.

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Wed 03/04/15 09:40 AM

messi_is_a_tim_1888( some people just cant see whats right in front of their face, its sad how dumbed down and complacent people have become over the years. trading freedom for safety, which is complete BS the more freedoms you lose, the less safe you are. and don't worry messi_is_a_tim_1888, joe public probably didn't even vote Cameron in, they have been fixing elections for a long time now. the people who are the "voters", are the billionaires that meet with the Bilderberg group every couple years, that's where our president and your prime minister is chosen, not by we the people, but by the billionaires whos greed has this country ripped apart in the first place. funny how the Bilderberg group denied that there even was such a group for how many years, until they got caught, now they say that they do meet but were not allowed to know what goes on in these meetings. the whole world is *ucked, but id gladly put a 9mm in my own head before becoming a slave to my government.
I know! Tony Blair, was a fully paid up member of that mob, as a 33rd level Freemason! Vote rigging went on in the Scottish Independence election last year, as evidence of it is coming to light now. I voted yes for Independence, not for the fact that I hate being British, it's because my ancestors fought for freedom here years ago, but all we had to do was vote 'yes' and we had a country of our own again. David Cameron's promises before the election, about how the Scottish government would get more devolutionary powers, were retracted as soon as the 55%No and 45%Yes vote was made official! Lying b*****d's the lot of them!!!!!

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Wed 03/04/15 09:55 AM


messi_is_a_tim_1888( some people just cant see whats right in front of their face, its sad how dumbed down and complacent people have become over the years. trading freedom for safety, which is complete BS the more freedoms you lose, the less safe you are. and don't worry messi_is_a_tim_1888, joe public probably didn't even vote Cameron in, they have been fixing elections for a long time now. the people who are the "voters", are the billionaires that meet with the Bilderberg group every couple years, that's where our president and your prime minister is chosen, not by we the people, but by the billionaires whos greed has this country ripped apart in the first place. funny how the Bilderberg group denied that there even was such a group for how many years, until they got caught, now they say that they do meet but were not allowed to know what goes on in these meetings. the whole world is *ucked, but id gladly put a 9mm in my own head before becoming a slave to my government.
I know! Tony Blair, was a fully paid up member of that mob, as a 33rd level Freemason! Vote rigging went on in the Scottish Independence election last year, as evidence of it is coming to light now. I voted yes for Independence, not for the fact that I hate being British, it's because my ancestors fought for freedom here years ago, but all we had to do was vote 'yes' and we had a country of our own again. David Cameron's promises before the election, about how the Scottish government would get more devolutionary powers, were retracted as soon as the 55%No and 45%Yes vote was made official! Lying b*****d's the lot of them!!!!!
does that surprise you messi_is_a_tim_1888? haha because it shouldn't, everyone knows about voter fraud but its something rarely talked about by the media. these new digital voting machines are ridiculously easy to tamper with.

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Wed 03/04/15 10:45 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 03/04/15 10:50 AM





I think it's important to remember that and the end of the day and regardless of your political view, he is a human being, who other human beings love and need.

I have no doubt that there are some who don't like him because of his colour but there are also some black people who like to remind us of the mistakes our grandfathers made.

Both have to stop because it leads to divide and we meet each other with cynicism and distrust and only when both sides stop will we ALL learn to live in harmony and the word colour, in this context, will become a thing of the past.


I agree with the colour being a primary reason some hate him or love him.

I also wish people could talk about 'colour' without it being taken as an immediate personal affront. History cant be changed but it has REAL impact on the present that shouldnt be ignored just to avoid unpleasant converations either.

when we speak more in terms of the system and the demographics instead of individual bigotry,,, we get further to finding solutions that can continue the progress thats been made

if we avoid that,, we are in danger of regressing back to those past INSTITUTIONAL wrongs or allowing them to grow again,,,

I don't agree. I believe in forgive and forget. What's done is done. We learn from our past mistakes and move on.
Over 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis and they remember the lost with dignity.
Perhaps some people have a chip on their shoulder the size of the Empire State so they don't want to forget.




how do we learn from mistakes by 'forgetting' them?

why do we bother to study history if it has no relevance or importance to the present?

Jews got the united nation to GIVE THEM THEIR OWN COUNTRY,, and they continue to have much of the wealth in this country,,, this is not GErmany, this is AMerica,, so what is relevant here has nothing to do with jews who weren't persecuted on any grand scale here,,,

unlike many other groups

I wont compare tragedies,, but its not the same thing at all...

As anyone would see from my first comment on this topic, my message was simply one of hope. Your reply was one of continued ignorance.
Yes Jews were not persecuted in America but they were persecuted.
I also said we should learn from our mistakes and move on which I think most people have.

Your president is the leader of the most powerful nation on earth so ignorance was obviously not a problem for him.

To quote another great black man.
I knew as I walked to the gates that would lead to my freedom, if I didn't leave the past behind I would always be in prison.
Nelson Mandela

Without being personal, you Msharmony, are still in prison.






if emotionalism is freedom, I will stay in prison too

nothing I stated was 'ignorant',, I simply asked questions about what it means to simply move on and 'forget',,,,,

,,to one who said they believed in 'forgive and forget'

I have not really resorted to personal attacks like so many have to when they disagree with others in these forums,,,

I am being objective and rational based upon what is being stated

on mingle, like many social sites, most posts are more emotional than anything else with statements of impossible to proev extremes,,,

do you know what Mandela was talking about, or is tha simple quip to copy and paste?

let me explain, without the extremes and emotionalism


,,,I was sexually assaulted when I was younger, I will NEVER forget it but I long since forgave it

if I walk around with anger or hatred for my assailant, I am inprisoned by it,,,,thats the leaving it behind part

if he had been released without anyone making a report for others to view in his area as a precaution, that would be inviting it to happen to others,,,

if I repeat the behaviors and bad choices that lead to that incident,, I am dooomed to find myself back in that situation

if someone suggests to me that I shouldnt pass what I experienced and the lessons of it to my daughter and she to hers and she to hers because it happened 'in the past'(Everything does)

I will tell them that they have lost grip on what it is to learn and to teach,, most of what we learn is from the experiences that are taught in books and by word of mouth, from what OTHERS went through

how lax would we be if our ONLY knowledge was printed word?

thats the part where REMEMBER and PASS ON and DONT FORGET are immeasurable means of making progress,,,



there is no reason to 'forget' the past, and moving on only means that we cant let past emotion dictate future hope,,,,,,not that we cant refer to what has or hasnt worked to make things better....



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Wed 03/04/15 10:53 AM

How about we criticize Obama's latest screw up?...A nuclear deal with Iran!...Fools never learn...Iran agrees not to finalize the production of a nuclear weapon FOR 10 YEARS and in the meantime Obama paves their way to nuclear with the best asphalt money can buy!...The question all you HARD CORE Obama supporters should be asking yourselves is, "Why is giving Iran nuclear so damn important to this president?"...And before those of you who "have his back" answer, do a little research...It will confirm the FACT that up until Obama took office the official position of the US was (and still is) NO NUCLEAR FOR IRAN...!!...He has all but destroyed our relationship with Israel...The man is a travesty...




again, subjective opinions, nothing wrong with them, like buttholes, everyone has one

mine is this,, the Nuclear situation started well before 2009, I recall Bush did very little about it either,, its nothing thats specific to this President or squarely on his feet

as far as Israel, when I see that our funding of them has dropped, I will believe our relationship is 'destroyed',,,and I imagine even Netanyahus declaration of appreciation of Obama will fall on the deaf ears of his haters,,,



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Wed 03/04/15 11:15 AM


How about we criticize Obama's latest screw up?...A nuclear deal with Iran!...Fools never learn...Iran agrees not to finalize the production of a nuclear weapon FOR 10 YEARS and in the meantime Obama paves their way to nuclear with the best asphalt money can buy!...The question all you HARD CORE Obama supporters should be asking yourselves is, "Why is giving Iran nuclear so damn important to this president?"...And before those of you who "have his back" answer, do a little research...It will confirm the FACT that up until Obama took office the official position of the US was (and still is) NO NUCLEAR FOR IRAN...!!...He has all but destroyed our relationship with Israel...The man is a travesty...




again, subjective opinions, nothing wrong with them, like buttholes, everyone has one

mine is this,, the Nuclear situation started well before 2009, I recall Bush did very little about it either,, its nothing thats specific to this President or squarely on his feet

as far as Israel, when I see that our funding of them has dropped, I will believe our relationship is 'destroyed',,,and I imagine even Netanyahus declaration of appreciation of Obama will fall on the deaf ears of his haters,,,





Who's talking about when the nuclear 'situation' started started?...Stay on topic, this thread is about Obama, not Bush...

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Wed 03/04/15 11:26 AM


How about we criticize Obama's latest screw up?...A nuclear deal with Iran!...Fools never learn...Iran agrees not to finalize the production of a nuclear weapon FOR 10 YEARS and in the meantime Obama paves their way to nuclear with the best asphalt money can buy!...The question all you HARD CORE Obama supporters should be asking yourselves is, "Why is giving Iran nuclear so damn important to this president?"...And before those of you who "have his back" answer, do a little research...It will confirm the FACT that up until Obama took office the official position of the US was (and still is) NO NUCLEAR FOR IRAN...!!...He has all but destroyed our relationship with Israel...The man is a travesty...




again, subjective opinions, nothing wrong with them, like buttholes, everyone has one

mine is this,, the Nuclear situation started well before 2009, I recall Bush did very little about it either,, its nothing thats specific to this President or squarely on his feet

as far as Israel, when I see that our funding of them has dropped, I will believe our relationship is 'destroyed',,,and I imagine even Netanyahus declaration of appreciation of Obama will fall on the deaf ears of his haters,,,



I don't understand why but this girl just will not stop defending Obama, I understand your black and so is he, and that's fine I have no problem with different races of people whatsoever... but you don't have to keep defending a terrible president because of your pride. he has not done anything good for this country, in fact its the exact opposite. please don't think I am tryin to say anything racially bad about you, all im saying is look at the facts and not the color of obamas skin, and look me square in the eye and tell me hes a good president. I asked you earlier to provide me with some of these great things u claim Obama is doing, instead you come back with nothing trying to tell us that were just Obama haters(for no reason) but theres a reason we don't like him, cuz he doesn't like America!

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Wed 03/04/15 12:19 PM


Obama has not turned anything around. all the government does is falsify statistics to make it look like he is doing good. unemployment is way higher than they tell you it is, look at the facts and how they came up with those numbers. im sorry I hate to be confrontational but you really are delusional. look at Obama before he became president, he went on the ellen degenerous show promoting his health care. he said its optional(complete BS) obamacare is so much more dangerous than people realize. our hospitals are going to be run like the dmv center in your area, so if you call that improved healthcare, once again you are delusional. gitmo is still open. all the troops aren't home from war. he resigned the patriot act to keep spying on americans. Obama claims hes all about "transparency" HAHAHA r u kidding me wow wake up msharmony, I am sorry to say but if Obama was white you would probably be criticizing him, like I said any person of color will stand by him no matter what. black people just love him cause he is black, and Spanish people love him cuz he lets them illegally come here, and then gives them rights that our ancestors died for so we can have. and all this race crap is BS. they always promote racism to keep the people fighting with eachother, so they don't realize who the real enemy is. its called divide and conquer and I must say its working brilliantly. msharmony I would love for you to inform me on how Obama is good for this country, name a few things that he promised to do, and actually did when he became president. and please before you respond and tell me all the great things he has done, do some research that doesn't come from the main stream news and brian Williams, obviously main stream news cant be trusted. so please tell me all the great things he has done, with facts to back it up.


and there we have it

a distrust in the sources that report allows us no real room for discussion

1st, presidents rarely 'promise' anything, thats a modern spin media puts on their statements when they run on what they are going to attempt to do,, persidents cant PROMISE because they dont have singlar authority and must work with the consensus of 100s of others in the government(congress)

2nd, you can easily research what things he stated that have been accomplished,but why would you bother when any positive report is by its nature going to therefore have its source questioned?

I doubt I 'trust' the same disgruntled non authenticated types of sources that others give credit to just because they line up with their preconceptions,,,,





whoa just because you think lying is ok doesn't mean others do... and have you heard of executive orders, like the very first one obarry did to seal his college records? why would that be an issue?

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Wed 03/04/15 01:09 PM



mountains of mistakes? such as?

I do feel we began an era of foreign relation disaster once we went in after Hussein that will take plenty of time to correct

whatever else he was , he knew a hell of lot more about that region /culture and sustaining it than we ever will,,

,,but that's the biggest 'mistake' I could understand his critics having,,,

and then perception is important, many major accomplishments being made UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY (notice I don't say 'by him' because presidents dont have singular power to effect such things)

are currently viewed as 'mistakes'

like accomplishment in healthcare with reform
accomplishment for LGBT with same sex marriage and repeal of dadt in the military
accommplishments for women with equal pay legislation
accomplishments for immigrants with immigration reform
unemployment coming back down to pre presidency rates
job gains coming back up
alternate energy sources increasing in development

,,,etc,,,


Liberal Hogwash,laugh
And you forgot the myth about him saving the auto industry. Oh, let's not forget that he started the Solar Industry with Solendra.
And he got rid of that little ole debt problem with a much bigger one.
What a way to save our country.frown
Ms, Do you really believe that liberal garbage? I know that you are smarter than that.
Sorry, but it's time for the rolling heads...
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


what was untrue in what I posted?

did anything on my list not happen?

than what is 'hogwash' exactly?


All of it.
"Hogwash" is what politicians feed to gullible, low info believers.
Ms, people don't dislike Obama because of his color, black or white. He is not respected because he is a liar.