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Here is a different perspective. If you were an enemy of the United States and you could make changes to destroy the country, what would you do.
You could cause the Country to bankrupt itself by spending way more money than it brought in in taxes. This is how Reagan beat the USSR. You could undermine the morale and strength of it's military. You could put the wants and needs of millions of poor immigrants over the best interest of the citizens thereby lowering wages, increasing crime, and boosting the welfare roles. You could just open the floodgates of illegals at the same time. You could befriend the enemies of the Country like Iran and alienate friends like Israel. You could let free trade work only in one direction greatly helping countries like China while destroying the manufacturing base of the US. You could lie to the people about income redistribution programs like Obamacare that put all the cost of healthcare on a small segment of the population. You could destroy the trust created over decades by making our Country unreliable as an ally. The only way Obama will go down in history as a great President is if the liberal Historians who write the books paint a false picture. T |
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anyone who believes that ALL of any profession are crooks, should be cautious of calling names,, they are obviously not concerned with LOGIC,,,, |
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Obama has made the "race card" an issue on his own and he meant to do it, he is the poster boy for SOCIOPATHS!! He has, is and will continue to ruin us..... I could talk all day about the crap he's done. We need Ronald Reagan back, that man loved his country, he wasn't perfect, but he was the best President we ever had. I miss that man.
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I think it's important to remember that and the end of the day and regardless of your political view, he is a human being, who other human beings love and need. I have no doubt that there are some who don't like him because of his colour but there are also some black people who like to remind us of the mistakes our grandfathers made. Both have to stop because it leads to divide and we meet each other with cynicism and distrust and only when both sides stop will we ALL learn to live in harmony and the word colour, in this context, will become a thing of the past. I agree with the colour being a primary reason some hate him or love him. I also wish people could talk about 'colour' without it being taken as an immediate personal affront. History cant be changed but it has REAL impact on the present that shouldnt be ignored just to avoid unpleasant converations either. when we speak more in terms of the system and the demographics instead of individual bigotry,,, we get further to finding solutions that can continue the progress thats been made if we avoid that,, we are in danger of regressing back to those past INSTITUTIONAL wrongs or allowing them to grow again,,, I don't agree. I believe in forgive and forget. What's done is done. We learn from our past mistakes and move on. Over 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis and they remember the lost with dignity. Perhaps some people have a chip on their shoulder the size of the Empire State so they don't want to forget. |
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Obama has made the "race card" an issue on his own and he meant to do it, he is the poster boy for SOCIOPATHS!! He has, is and will continue to ruin us..... I could talk all day about the crap he's done. We need Ronald Reagan back, that man loved his country, he wasn't perfect, but he was the best President we ever had. I miss that man. Takes me back to the reason some certain people voted for him in 2008 just because of his skin color. Others had chosen to vote for him because sold his many falsified platforms the best. Reagan was the lesser of two evils in this comparison. |
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I hate to be that one but honestly theres nothing wrong with critisizing the president if you feel there is room for improvement but the thing is most americans that find thmselves critisizing our president do so through racially motivated terms. Its really clear alot of people dislike him for vain reasons based on simply the arguments they put up as criticism. If its genuine critism then ok if its racism then expect it to be poorly received! I disagree with both your claims...You have absolutely no way of knowing "why" anyone other than yourself is critisizing Obama, let alone how many criticisms are race driven...Also, you have no way of knowing "if or who" dislikes him for vain reasons...How much truth would you apply to this statement?..."Every black American believes every criticism of Obama made by white Americans is based on racism or vanity...See how stoopid that sounds?  ...
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 03/03/15 02:27 PM
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Perhaps if the fraud we call our POTUS had a policy for anything instead of waiting to hear what it is on the evening news or reading it off a teleprompter...... It's hard to criticize what doesn't exist |
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Edited by
alleoops
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Tue 03/03/15 03:45 PM
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mountains of mistakes? such as? I do feel we began an era of foreign relation disaster once we went in after Hussein that will take plenty of time to correct whatever else he was , he knew a hell of lot more about that region /culture and sustaining it than we ever will,, ,,but that's the biggest 'mistake' I could understand his critics having,,, and then perception is important, many major accomplishments being made UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY (notice I don't say 'by him' because presidents dont have singular power to effect such things) are currently viewed as 'mistakes' like accomplishment in healthcare with reform accomplishment for LGBT with same sex marriage and repeal of dadt in the military accommplishments for women with equal pay legislation accomplishments for immigrants with immigration reform unemployment coming back down to pre presidency rates job gains coming back up alternate energy sources increasing in development ,,,etc,,, Liberal Hogwash,  And you forgot the myth about him saving the auto industry. Oh, let's not forget that he started the Solar Industry with Solendra. And he got rid of that little ole debt problem with a much bigger one. What a way to save our country.  Ms, Do you really believe that liberal garbage? I know that you are smarter than that. Sorry, but it's time for the rolling heads... 
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mountains of mistakes? such as? I do feel we began an era of foreign relation disaster once we went in after Hussein that will take plenty of time to correct whatever else he was , he knew a hell of lot more about that region /culture and sustaining it than we ever will,, ,,but that's the biggest 'mistake' I could understand his critics having,,, and then perception is important, many major accomplishments being made UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY (notice I don't say 'by him' because presidents dont have singular power to effect such things) are currently viewed as 'mistakes' like accomplishment in healthcare with reform accomplishment for LGBT with same sex marriage and repeal of dadt in the military accommplishments for women with equal pay legislation accomplishments for immigrants with immigration reform unemployment coming back down to pre presidency rates job gains coming back up alternate energy sources increasing in development ,,,etc,,, like accomplishment in healthcare with reform he did, one of the things he shoved down our throat... accomplishment for LGBT with same sex marriage and repeal of dadt in the military only gays care, i think it hurts more than it helps anything accommplishments for women with equal pay legislation not sure what your talking about here, thats been around for years now accomplishments for immigrants with immigration reform again, hurts more than it helps anything, liberals to stupid to see that... unemployment coming back down to pre presidency rates job gains coming back up accomplishment? that means it took him 7 years to get a job level back to a crappy position as it was with bush? alternate energy sources increasing in development most of his "green" efforts are based on lies to begin with, and most of the companies he has been involved with have stolen billions form the government before they went belly up taking the money overseas with them... everything you posted here was meaningless, obarry hasn't done anything thats truly good while in office... now, how about the other points? he lies about everything Guantanamo is still open more civilians have died on his watch in Afghanistan and Africa from American tech than any other president.. broke the country, twice millions of people lost their homes because of bad democratic policies successfully wiped out the American middle class families |
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Here is a different perspective. If you were an enemy of the United States and you could make changes to destroy the country, what would you do. You could cause the Country to bankrupt itself by spending way more money than it brought in in taxes. This is how Reagan beat the USSR. You could undermine the morale and strength of it's military. You could put the wants and needs of millions of poor immigrants over the best interest of the citizens thereby lowering wages, increasing crime, and boosting the welfare roles. You could just open the floodgates of illegals at the same time. You could befriend the enemies of the Country like Iran and alienate friends like Israel. You could let free trade work only in one direction greatly helping countries like China while destroying the manufacturing base of the US. You could lie to the people about income redistribution programs like Obamacare that put all the cost of healthcare on a small segment of the population. You could destroy the trust created over decades by making our Country unreliable as an ally. The only way Obama will go down in history as a great President is if the liberal Historians who write the books paint a false picture. T or you could make up or misrepresent information so as to cause inner division as a distraction to collective unity,, I believe , despite the heartache of many of his haters, the historians will accurately reflect the HISTORICAL accomplishments accomplished during a time of great recession and historically inactive congress and put him as far from the bottom of the list |
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anyone who believes that ALL of any profession are crooks, should be cautious of calling names,, they are obviously not concerned with LOGIC,,,, I haven't brought up his race,, seems mostly 'all the non racists' are the ones who interject it into a discussion(that's sarcasm to show how illogical the ALL OF statements are) did people support Reagan because he was white? or any of the other presidents who were all WHITE? I support him because I believe in his progress and his efforts,,,he isn't running anything into the ground, this is the country that had slavery and jim crow ,worse than ANYTHING we are going through, and survived, and had a drastically BOMBING economy and two wars when he entered I see those things have turned around since his election, and many other groups have seen some of their economic and civil obstacles knocked down,,,, in spite of 'crooks' who would convince us that all that is bad for us.. and just leaving it to the wealthy and big business will make it all moral and upright... |
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I think it's important to remember that and the end of the day and regardless of your political view, he is a human being, who other human beings love and need. I have no doubt that there are some who don't like him because of his colour but there are also some black people who like to remind us of the mistakes our grandfathers made. Both have to stop because it leads to divide and we meet each other with cynicism and distrust and only when both sides stop will we ALL learn to live in harmony and the word colour, in this context, will become a thing of the past. I agree with the colour being a primary reason some hate him or love him. I also wish people could talk about 'colour' without it being taken as an immediate personal affront. History cant be changed but it has REAL impact on the present that shouldnt be ignored just to avoid unpleasant converations either. when we speak more in terms of the system and the demographics instead of individual bigotry,,, we get further to finding solutions that can continue the progress thats been made if we avoid that,, we are in danger of regressing back to those past INSTITUTIONAL wrongs or allowing them to grow again,,, I don't agree. I believe in forgive and forget. What's done is done. We learn from our past mistakes and move on. Over 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis and they remember the lost with dignity. Perhaps some people have a chip on their shoulder the size of the Empire State so they don't want to forget. how do we learn from mistakes by 'forgetting' them? why do we bother to study history if it has no relevance or importance to the present? Jews got the united nation to GIVE THEM THEIR OWN COUNTRY,, and they continue to have much of the wealth in this country,,, this is not GErmany, this is AMerica,, so what is relevant here has nothing to do with jews who weren't persecuted on any grand scale here,,, unlike many other groups I wont compare tragedies,, but its not the same thing at all... |
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mountains of mistakes? such as? I do feel we began an era of foreign relation disaster once we went in after Hussein that will take plenty of time to correct whatever else he was , he knew a hell of lot more about that region /culture and sustaining it than we ever will,, ,,but that's the biggest 'mistake' I could understand his critics having,,, and then perception is important, many major accomplishments being made UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY (notice I don't say 'by him' because presidents dont have singular power to effect such things) are currently viewed as 'mistakes' like accomplishment in healthcare with reform accomplishment for LGBT with same sex marriage and repeal of dadt in the military accommplishments for women with equal pay legislation accomplishments for immigrants with immigration reform unemployment coming back down to pre presidency rates job gains coming back up alternate energy sources increasing in development ,,,etc,,, Liberal Hogwash, And you forgot the myth about him saving the auto industry. Oh, let's not forget that he started the Solar Industry with Solendra. And he got rid of that little ole debt problem with a much bigger one. What a way to save our country. Ms, Do you really believe that liberal garbage? I know that you are smarter than that. Sorry, but it's time for the rolling heads... what was untrue in what I posted? did anything on my list not happen? than what is 'hogwash' exactly? |
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another truth restated for relevance:
and then perception is important, many major accomplishments being made UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY (notice I don't say 'by him' because presidents dont have singular power to effect such things) are currently viewed as 'mistakes' I have listed things that happened,, and that I feel will historically be viewed as significant accomplishments others will perceive these things that DID HAPPEN as mistakes many southerners felt making blacks free was terrible policy because it would take so many jobs from the hard working whites,, history disagreed I believe as the country grows and evolves,, and these underrepresented groups gain more power and representation, history will reflect well on this period of time and this presidency |
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Here is a different perspective. If you were an enemy of the United States and you could make changes to destroy the country, what would you do. You could cause the Country to bankrupt itself by spending way more money than it brought in in taxes. This is how Reagan beat the USSR. You could undermine the morale and strength of it's military. You could put the wants and needs of millions of poor immigrants over the best interest of the citizens thereby lowering wages, increasing crime, and boosting the welfare roles. You could just open the floodgates of illegals at the same time. You could befriend the enemies of the Country like Iran and alienate friends like Israel. You could let free trade work only in one direction greatly helping countries like China while destroying the manufacturing base of the US. You could lie to the people about income redistribution programs like Obamacare that put all the cost of healthcare on a small segment of the population. You could destroy the trust created over decades by making our Country unreliable as an ally. The only way Obama will go down in history as a great President is if the liberal Historians who write the books paint a false picture. T or you could make up or misrepresent information so as to cause inner division as a distraction to collective unity,, I believe , despite the heartache of many of his haters, the historians will accurately reflect the HISTORICAL accomplishments accomplished during a time of great recession and historically inactive congress and put him as far from the bottom of the list Exactly what was made up or misrepresented? |
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Here is a different perspective. If you were an enemy of the United States and you could make changes to destroy the country, what would you do. You could cause the Country to bankrupt itself by spending way more money than it brought in in taxes. This is how Reagan beat the USSR. You could undermine the morale and strength of it's military. You could put the wants and needs of millions of poor immigrants over the best interest of the citizens thereby lowering wages, increasing crime, and boosting the welfare roles. You could just open the floodgates of illegals at the same time. You could befriend the enemies of the Country like Iran and alienate friends like Israel. You could let free trade work only in one direction greatly helping countries like China while destroying the manufacturing base of the US. You could lie to the people about income redistribution programs like Obamacare that put all the cost of healthcare on a small segment of the population. You could destroy the trust created over decades by making our Country unreliable as an ally. The only way Obama will go down in history as a great President is if the liberal Historians who write the books paint a false picture. T or you could make up or misrepresent information so as to cause inner division as a distraction to collective unity,, I believe , despite the heartache of many of his haters, the historians will accurately reflect the HISTORICAL accomplishments accomplished during a time of great recession and historically inactive congress and put him as far from the bottom of the list Exactly what was made up or misrepresented? all of it was subjective spin, basically being that we have only had one president in decades with surplus,, the 'trend' of not having the revenue to cover the expense is not specific to any president, including this one I don't know how undermined military felt when they were able to finally leave the middle east and join their families the argument that poor immigrants are going to lower wages and increase crime has been one put forth everytime new groups came in to the country, and disproven by history as well Israel still gets more funds from us than any other country, far from being alienated IN case you haven't noticed, China has been out trading and manufacturing us long before this president as well Obamacare actually spreads the cost of healthcare to a LARGER segment, by nature of more paying into healthcare costs Our country is still an ally to those who are allies to us, the middle east is where most countries have low esteem for America,, also long before this presidency ,,,,,,,, ,,,perception is a dime a dozen,, history will report what it will report, I have every reason to believe Obamas part will be reported favorably,,, |
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ok msharmony, only 90% of them are crooks, which still makes it impossible for the good 10% to have any impact on things. presidents are all puppets, that's why they always have a good plan of what theyre gonna do when they get in office, but yet they get into office and nothing changes, ever. everything Obama said he was going to do hasn't been done. hes a liar and a tyrant and he should be in court being charged for treason along with any other government official that sides with him. theres a reason we have a constitution, its to protect us from people like Obama and the rest of the 90% of the government. so yes your right its not every single politician but its the vast majority of them and in a democrazy, majority rules. that's why we were founded as a constitutional republic and not a democracy, because the principles of this country should not ever be changed and in a democracy, its basically mob rule. 51% take away the rights of the other 49%. the founding fathers knew that that's why we weren't founded as a democracy. to protect us from greedy corrupt politicians like the 90% we have in office today.
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Obama has not turned anything around. all the government does is falsify statistics to make it look like he is doing good. unemployment is way higher than they tell you it is, look at the facts and how they came up with those numbers. im sorry I hate to be confrontational but you really are delusional. look at Obama before he became president, he went on the ellen degenerous show promoting his health care. he said its optional(complete BS) obamacare is so much more dangerous than people realize. our hospitals are going to be run like the dmv center in your area, so if you call that improved healthcare, once again you are delusional. gitmo is still open. all the troops aren't home from war. he resigned the patriot act to keep spying on americans. Obama claims hes all about "transparency" HAHAHA r u kidding me wow wake up msharmony, I am sorry to say but if Obama was white you would probably be criticizing him, like I said any person of color will stand by him no matter what. black people just love him cause he is black, and Spanish people love him cuz he lets them illegally come here, and then gives them rights that our ancestors died for so we can have. and all this race crap is BS. they always promote racism to keep the people fighting with eachother, so they don't realize who the real enemy is. its called divide and conquer and I must say its working brilliantly. msharmony I would love for you to inform me on how Obama is good for this country, name a few things that he promised to do, and actually did when he became president. and please before you respond and tell me all the great things he has done, do some research that doesn't come from the main stream news and brian Williams, obviously main stream news cant be trusted. so please tell me all the great things he has done, with facts to back it up.
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ok msharmony, only 90% of them are crooks, which still makes it impossible for the good 10% to have any impact on things. presidents are all puppets, that's why they always have a good plan of what theyre gonna do when they get in office, but yet they get into office and nothing changes, ever. everything Obama said he was going to do hasn't been done. hes a liar and a tyrant and he should be in court being charged for treason along with any other government official that sides with him. theres a reason we have a constitution, its to protect us from people like Obama and the rest of the 90% of the government. so yes your right its not every single politician but its the vast majority of them and in a democrazy, majority rules. that's why we were founded as a constitutional republic and not a democracy, because the principles of this country should not ever be changed and in a democracy, its basically mob rule. 51% take away the rights of the other 49%. the founding fathers knew that that's why we weren't founded as a democracy. to protect us from greedy corrupt politicians like the 90% we have in office today. 
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kindlightheart, you are very right, and no this election wont change anything. nothing in this country will change until we the people stand up to the Gov.'s tyranny. the powers that be will stop at nothing to keep themselves in power, look at JFK. go against the powers that be, end up dead, its that simple.
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