Topic: Grand Jury Reached A Verdict On Officer Wilson
Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/24/14 08:26 PM



Yep, the protesters are rioting because they didn't get the vengeance that they wanted.


Or the thugs taking advantage of the situation.


Speaking of race baiting...


Really? I didn't say what color the thugs were since they are white, black, Asian, Mexican, you just assumed black so we know what your thinking.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/24/14 08:26 PM
Yep,guess he was one of t hem there exceptions that bed o me superhuman after being shot and running at an obese weight. laugh

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Mon 11/24/14 08:27 PM


Weed hardly hypes up...lol. even the officer admitting he Struggled when going towards the gun. And it's still just a lesson, many lessons that can't be undone.


So your a medical doctor now too? Weed can have the opposite effect on people as well. Just like with some people who take Vicodin mellow out and get euphoric, some get hyped up like they are on Meth.


Sir, I can assure you that she is an expert in ALL areas and she has psychic powers to actually see events after they take place.spock

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Mon 11/24/14 08:31 PM
Now. Why does my opinion about the effect of weed cause one to Assume I think myself expert and not the one who sparked the response with a claim that someone was hyped up on drugs? Better yet I know the personal when I see it. Lol

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Mon 11/24/14 08:51 PM

No.certified paralegal. And I would expect someone reaching for the gun to be shot in that process. NOT after trying to Runaway


Why do you keep saying this...that Mr. Brown was running away?

According to Officer Wilson and an eyewitness, Mr. Brown was shot while charging AT the officer; according to at least one eyewitness' testimony (as well as Officer Wilson's), he charged at least 3 times, including AFTER being told to get down, repeatedly, AND after being shot. When asked if the charge was at a trot or full speed, the eyewitness reported it was "full on".

According to the eyewitness, when asked where Mr. Brown's hands were, he responded he didn't remember exactly, but they were for sure not over his head.



EVERYbody, except the eyewitnesses whose testimonies keep changing and are in conflict with one another AND in conflict with actual forensic evidence, is lying?!?



msharmony's photo
Mon 11/24/14 08:58 PM
I was clear. He ran after the initial confrontation. I do not believe he turned. And trotted at the officer even if the officer in the hot seat claims it and finds a witness to back it up. It makes no sense so I believe it's a lie. Even police can lie to save their butts and are f2f dry good at coercing witnesses to agree.

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Mon 11/24/14 08:58 PM


Got it. Charging AT someone 3 times, including even after being shot, is "running away", in your language.




Thank you for proving my earlier point about why cameras on officers will prove completely useless.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/24/14 09:04 PM
This is exactly why a cam would matter. I could believe such an anomaly if I saw it, but not just because an officer claims it.

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Mon 11/24/14 09:13 PM
Nahhhh...as you, yourself, said earlier, "Even police can lie to save their butts and are f2f dry good at coercing witnesses to agree."


Those same police can edit the video and/or coerce others to do it for them.



Best that you only believe that which says what you want to hear (i.e., eyewitnesses whose testimonies change, admit they never saw anything but only repeated what they'd heard others say, and/or who claim things that forensic evidence doesn't support),


than film footage that proves *The Truth* to be anything but.



The Grand Jury listened to Dorian Johnson's testimony; he was the one who was side-by-side with Mr. Brown as everything went down. The news channel I'm currently watching is showing video of his earlier statements and comparing them with the testimony provided to the Grand Jury.



Two completely different stories. Obviously, he's telling *The Truth*. Or, the COPS got to him.


whoa

Argo's photo
Mon 11/24/14 10:10 PM
brown was 1st shot with his arm inside the officers window....how is it, he was shot again and killed some distance away....he had to get away from initial contact in some manner didnt he ?? i'm thinking he was running away, not just out for a stroll...wilson collected himself and gave pursuit.... at this point a body-cam would have validated the truthful story.with the weight of 10,000 witnesses ALL giving the exact same testimony.....

there may come a small bit of good to come out of this incident yet...

there is talk of introducing legislature to make it MANDATORY to require ALL law enforcement officers be equipped with the body-cams during their performance of duties......failure to comply or evidence of tampering will be cause for immediate dismissal and FELONY charges brought against that officer, and anyone else who assists them, depending of the gravity of the incident......whatever number they give the bill won't matter...it will known as the Michael Brown Law........shades of the Miranda rights that are given to anyone taken into custody today...

no more.... "questioning" with a rubber hose in the back room...
no more ...."shoot to kill" first and ask questions later....

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:11 PM
Officer Wilson should sue for deformation and slander the Dishonorable Al, the various media companies and Brown's friend the liar who has a long history of lying to law enforcement and to the courts and ho kept lying and changing his story since the shooting. The guy has changed his story over half a dozen times.

They have completely ruined this Officer's career. Officer Wilson hasn't ever even had a complaint during his career in law enforcement, which is very rare. Cops usually get a couple complaints a week.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:13 PM

Officer Wilson should sue for deformation and slander the Dishonorable Al, the various media companies and Brown's friend the liar who has a long history of lying to law enforcement and to the courts and ho kept lying and changing his story since the shooting. The guy has changed his story over half a dozen times.

They have completely ruined this Officer's career. Officer Wilson hasn't ever even had a complaint during his career in law enforcement, which is very rare. Cops usually get a couple complaints a week.


Actually now that I think about it even if they got a judgment against the Dishonorable Al, he wouldn't pay it. He has a LONG history of not paying his debts and filing false tax returns. He still owes the US Government over $4,000,000. Race baiting crook.

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Mon 11/24/14 11:14 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 11/24/14 11:16 PM

Yep,guess he was one of t hem there exceptions that bed o me superhuman after being shot and running at an obese weight. laugh


It's not an exception. Everyone reacts differently then everyone else when they are intoxicated or under the influence of drugs.

He ran so far that he was less then a foot away when Wilson fired his weapon. whoa

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:18 PM



Weed hardly hypes up...lol. even the officer admitting he Struggled when going towards the gun. And it's still just a lesson, many lessons that can't be undone.


So your a medical doctor now too? Weed can have the opposite effect on people as well. Just like with some people who take Vicodin mellow out and get euphoric, some get hyped up like they are on Meth.


Sir, I can assure you that she is an expert in ALL areas and she has psychic powers to actually see events after they take place.spock


I've come to notice that as well. :wink:

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:22 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 11/24/14 11:22 PM

Now. Why does my opinion about the effect of weed cause one to Assume I think myself expert and not the one who sparked the response with a claim that someone was hyped up on drugs? Better yet I know the personal when I see it. Lol


He was high on drugs when he committed several crimes including robbery for more expensive cigars to put weed in, attacking a police officer and reaching towards the officers gun.

That sure doesn't sound like some mellow stoner looking for munchies.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 11/24/14 11:26 PM

brown was 1st shot with his arm inside the officers window....how is it, he was shot again and killed some distance away....he had to get away from initial contact in some manner didnt he ?? i'm thinking he was running away, not just out for a stroll...wilson collected himself and gave pursuit.... at this point a body-cam would have validated the truthful story.with the weight of 10,000 witnesses ALL giving the exact same testimony.....

there may come a small bit of good to come out of this incident yet...

there is talk of introducing legislature to make it MANDATORY to require ALL law enforcement officers be equipped with the body-cams during their performance of duties......failure to comply or evidence of tampering will be cause for immediate dismissal and FELONY charges brought against that officer, and anyone else who assists them, depending of the gravity of the incident......whatever number they give the bill won't matter...it will known as the Michael Brown Law........shades of the Miranda rights that are given to anyone taken into custody today...

no more.... "questioning" with a rubber hose in the back room...
no more ...."shoot to kill" first and ask questions later....

with this I agree. Perhaps the higher purpose for this death.

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Mon 11/24/14 11:47 PM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Mon 11/24/14 11:49 PM
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Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:53 PM


No.certified paralegal. And I would expect someone reaching for the gun to be shot in that process. NOT after trying to Runaway


Why do you keep saying this...that Mr. Brown was running away?

According to Officer Wilson and an eyewitness, Mr. Brown was shot while charging AT the officer; according to at least one eyewitness' testimony (as well as Officer Wilson's), he charged at least 3 times, including AFTER being told to get down, repeatedly, AND after being shot. When asked if the charge was at a trot or full speed, the eyewitness reported it was "full on".

According to the eyewitness, when asked where Mr. Brown's hands were, he responded he didn't remember exactly, but they were for sure not over his head.



EVERYbody, except the eyewitnesses whose testimonies keep changing and are in conflict with one another AND in conflict with actual forensic evidence, is lying?!?





There was also the autopsy that showed Brown had gun powder residue on him and also show that he was less then a foot away from Wilson when at least one of the shots was fired. Also they were all entrance wounds on the front of his body and one of the shots was by his wrist, all backing up the fact that he was near or going for the Officer's gun and a struggle in the car.

If I remember right they also found a shell casing or gun powder residue in the car.........

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/24/14 11:58 PM
Shrug, no debating an initial confrontation at the car. When and how the other five shots happened is what's questioned, or was before nine made up their mind

Lpdon's photo
Tue 11/25/14 12:36 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Tue 11/25/14 12:39 AM

brown was 1st shot with his arm inside the officers window....how is it, he was shot again and killed some distance away....he had to get away from initial contact in some manner didnt he ?? i'm thinking he was running away, not just out for a stroll...wilson collected himself and gave pursuit.... at this point a body-cam would have validated the truthful story.with the weight of 10,000 witnesses ALL giving the exact same testimony.....

there may come a small bit of good to come out of this incident yet...

there is talk of introducing legislature to make it MANDATORY to require ALL law enforcement officers be equipped with the body-cams during their performance of duties......failure to comply or evidence of tampering will be cause for immediate dismissal and FELONY charges brought against that officer, and anyone else who assists them, depending of the gravity of the incident......whatever number they give the bill won't matter...it will known as the Michael Brown Law........shades of the Miranda rights that are given to anyone taken into custody today...

no more.... "questioning" with a rubber hose in the back room...
no more ...."shoot to kill" first and ask questions later....



In theory that sounds good about the cameras, but in reality not likely. Not a lot of departments can afford to buy, maintain, upgrade and replace (yes they will get damaged, broken and weather affected) body cameras. Not to mention that they aren't that big and will only have one angle. If the officer, bends, turns, reaches, climbs etc the situation would probably not be captured. Also unless it's mounted on the officers head the camera will be blocked when the officer pulls hos or her weapon. Also if it's cold out or rainy with lens will fog up, even with an anti fog lens there's that potential.

Then there's the charging the officers with Felonies and firing them if tampered or video not captured. How can you prove that? Electronics items have a high failure rate. They break, get weather damaged, could get dropped, broken in a scuffle could go out or lose video and black out and if at night and dark out it wont get an image and cameras with night vision are very expensive. Then you have storage capacity issues and if they have audio wont last an 8, 10 or 12 hours shift.

I work with and on CCTV cameras, pinhole cameras, PTZ cameras and camera systems on a daily basis at work. Nothing about them are cheap. Nothing.

Also forensics doesn't lie.