Topic: Grand Jury Reached A Verdict On Officer Wilson
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Mon 11/24/14 06:56 PM
Edited by mrld_ii on Mon 11/24/14 06:58 PM

Ok. Too bad t didnt die in Ferguson where INITIAL contact mattered more than in Florida.



Too bad he didn't run into an on-duty police officer who was responding to a call to a crime HE'D just committed, too.



You really ARE stretching to ignore the completely different facts of the matters to *make* them one-and-the-same, huh?




Gosh. If someone so well trained in the law is so easily riled, to the point of completely ignoring the law, imagine what the millers-about in the streets of Ferguson are thinking - and feeling - right about now.





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Mon 11/24/14 07:08 PM
Missing the point. Most cases will have different details but the same charge. Both cases involved someone's death at the hands of another.both were deaths of unarmed at hands of the armed. One case explained that who initiated DID not matter doing as the shooter was fearful. The other felt that the initiation,even after it was over. Justified the fear requirement. That consideration which justified the officers fatal shooting May have justified young Martin's fight so it could not justify his death.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:07 PM
None of it can be undone now. Legally the dead can't dispute anything.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:19 PM
live feed..... copwatch.....confrontation with police....its just beginning

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Mon 11/24/14 07:21 PM
Edited by mrld_ii on Mon 11/24/14 07:22 PM

Missing the point. Most cases will have different details but the same charge. Both cases involved someone's death at the hands of another.both were deaths of unarmed at hands of the armed. One case explained that who initiated DID not matter doing as the shooter was fearful. The other felt that the initiation,even after it was over. Justified the fear requirement. That consideration which justified the officers fatal shooting May have justified young Martin's fight so it could not justify his death.


Nope. You're not getting it. You honestly believe that one case said it's OK to kill if you're attacked and the other said it's OK to kill after you've been attacked and the person is walking away.


THE EVIDENCE - WHICH THE GRAND JURY WAS PRIVY TO - DOESN'T SUPPORT THIS SCENARIO. The news media and what it's chosen to show you in its coverage has told you this is the scenario and you've chosen to believe it, without seeing any of the evidence for YOURself; you find yourself better informed than those people who DID have access to ALL the evidence.





Earlier, there were indications the Grand Jury's evidence would NOT be shared with the public; now, there's reports it's already being put out, online.


Perhaps, after viewing ALL the evidence that was provided to the Grand Jury but NOT (previously) to the media, your legal mind will get back on track.


Or, perhaps you'll continue to let your emotions override your logic.

As someone previously stated, each of us is entitled to our own humble opinion. Humbly, I prefer to base MY opinions on facts and reality.



drinks







msharmony's photo
Mon 11/24/14 07:21 PM
Some will use it as excuse, shame really.

mrld_ii's photo
Mon 11/24/14 07:24 PM

live feed..... copwatch.....confrontation with police....its just beginning


There's standoffs happening as far away as Seattle being reported, too. The city of Philadelphia is also reporting problems.



On a brighter note, the city of Stockton, which LOVES a good brawl, is relatively quiet. At least where I live, anyway. For now, anyway.



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Mon 11/24/14 07:24 PM
Yep, the protesters are rioting because they didn't get the vengeance that they wanted.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:29 PM


Missing the point. Most cases will have different details but the same charge. Both cases involved someone's death at the hands of another.both were deaths of unarmed at hands of the armed. One case explained that who initiated DID not matter doing as the shooter was fearful. The other felt that the initiation,even after it was over. Justified the fear requirement. That consideration which justified the officers fatal shooting May have justified young Martin's fight so it could not justify his death.


Nope. You're not getting it. You honestly believe that one case said it's OK to kill if you're attacked and the other said it's OK to kill after you've been attacked and the person is walking away.


THE EVIDENCE - WHICH THE GRAND JURY WAS PRIVY TO - DOESN'T SUPPORT THIS SCENARIO. The news media and what it's chosen to show you in its coverage has told you this is the scenario and you've chosen to believe it, without seeing any of the evidence for YOURself; you find yourself better informed than those people who DID have access to ALL the evidence.





Earlier, there were indications the Grand Jury's evidence would NOT be shared with the public; now, there's reports it's already being put out, online.


Perhaps, after viewing ALL the evidence that was provided to the Grand Jury but NOT (previously) to the media, your legal mind will get back on track.


Or, perhaps you'll continue to let your emotions override your logic.

As someone previously stated, each of us is entitled to our own humble opinion. Humbly, I prefer to base MY opinions on facts and reality.



drinks







never said anyone walked away. Officer account was fight in the car until he began to shoot. Then Michael RuNNING before turning. According to officer to rush him. That's the officer account

Sounds Very much like the account that young Martin was trying to Lose z.before suddenly turning back to assault him.

But, as stated before. Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:29 PM

Yep, the protesters are rioting because they didn't get the vengeance that they wanted.
some people are. Whether protesters or troublemakers using this as an excuse.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:31 PM
Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.


... such as teaching our kids not to attack a police officer who has stopped them.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:33 PM


Yep, the protesters are rioting because they didn't get the vengeance that they wanted.
some people are. Whether protesters or troublemakers using this as an excuse.


Peeks in...I agree...

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Mon 11/24/14 07:33 PM

Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.


... such as teaching our kids not to attack a police officer who has stopped them.



Also agree...

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Mon 11/24/14 07:35 PM

Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.


... such as teaching our kids not to attack a police officer who has stopped them.
[/quote. And to wear body cameras. To record police confrontations, to raise arms high before turning around. To yell I give don't shoot...among many others

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Mon 11/24/14 07:39 PM
Edited by 2KidsMom on Mon 11/24/14 07:39 PM


Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.


... such as teaching our kids not to attack a police officer who has stopped them.
[/quote. And to wear body cameras. To record police confrontations, to raise arms high before turning around. To yell I give don't shoot...among many others


Whispers...
I'm not sure that would even help...in some cases.
Sadly..:( Jmo..flowerforyou

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Mon 11/24/14 07:39 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Mon 11/24/14 07:40 PM


Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.


... such as teaching our kids not to attack a police officer who has stopped them.
[/quote. And to wear body cameras. To record police confrontations, to raise arms high before turning around. To yell I give don't shoot...among many others


I am all in favor of police officers wearing body cameras.

I suspect that Michael Brown had been taught the right things to do but simply chose not to do them.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:42 PM



Nothing to be done now but organize to prevent and protect our kids in the future.


... such as teaching our kids not to attack a police officer who has stopped them.
[/quote. And to wear body cameras. To record police confrontations, to raise arms high before turning around. To yell I give don't shoot...among many others


I am all in favor of police officers wearing body cameras.

I suspect that Michael Brown had been taught the right things to do but simply chose not to do them.



Sad but true!! In some cases

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Mon 11/24/14 07:42 PM
I agree with body cameras.

However, if previous *arguments* are any indication, when the camera shows what others don't want to see,

the police department will be accused of having altered the evidence to protect their own.


Eyewitness testimony that says that which we've decided we want to hear, no matter how contradictory nor how much it changes, will continue to be *The Truth* in the face of all evidence to the contrary.


And, if the past is any indication, the sheer insanity of it all will simply fuel more insanity to *justify* the means to the end.







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Mon 11/24/14 07:45 PM
I know he did a lot wrong from five finger discount to bullying to fighting with officer/resisting arrest. At some point he may have avoided death though. I have seen it happen on every episode of cops when someone ran initially. And lived to be restrained or give up.

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Mon 11/24/14 07:50 PM

I know he did a lot wrong from five finger discount to bullying to fighting with officer/resisting arrest. At some point he may have avoided death though. I have seen it happen on every episode of cops when someone ran initially. And lived to be restrained or give up.


How often do the perps filmed on COPS reach for the officers' guns?


Oh, and by the way, do NOT believe that COPS is reality TV; it is VERY heavily edited...and the [supervisors of the] COPS get final say in what's shown and what's not. Albuquerque refused to stop allowing them to film there, because the show was giving their city a bad name.




Does your legal training come from watching hours of COPS on TV?!? Or, is it simply supplemented by it?