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Al wrote:



I just disparaged "anyone who refers to the president as Odumbo", and then you raise something which hadn't occurred to me, but should have occurred to me.

But I don't agree with your logic, because people aren't always of the position that X is true or X is not true.

There could be two different thresholds of 'estimates of how likely something is true'.

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As someone who is (a) against racism, and who is (b) hugely disappointed in the irrational cult called the 'anti-racist movement', I am most interested in what was really meant by this statement:



Can we all at least agree that there is nothing genetically different about white people and black people that would cause one group to be more likely to riot, break stuff, and burn stuff?

That I agree with.

Actually in this incident, Ben Franklin would be much more appropriate:



Or maybe Alexis de Tocqueville:



And let's not forget R. Buckminster Fuller:



But hey, let's not disappoint:



"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of this country. But he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and women. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us: that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph." - Thomas Payne.

And there are many that feel uncomfortable around me, always has been, always will be. But why?

The fact of the matter is that truth itself, by it's very nature, is belligerent, because it wages war against all forms of deception and mind control.

I can agree with THAT statement, but that's not what fleta said, which had been called into question. I think everyone can agree we all want world peace, but that wasn't being discussed here, either.


Fleta said 'whites don't riot, break stuff, and burn stuff due to racially-charged motivations'.


Before my quote was completely bastardized, THAT was the sentiment I'd agreed to; as long as 'white folk' enjoy White Privilege in a nation built upon and catering TO it,


there is no reason FOR 'white folk' TO "riot, break stuff, and burn stuff" due to racially-charged motivations.

*Interesting*. You missed a few. But, the ones that were left behind, were simply targeting me rather than the topic


so it's all good.

I don't care one way of the other. If that is your chosen method to hide, please take it.

Many here take things personal and to think they are commenting in a public forum and a political forum at that. If you do not want your post to be centered in controversy, then perhaps the political forum is not the place to post.

Personally I do not care, I respond to post regardless of the poster. And if the subject matter or just a remark interests me, I respond. If one desires to debate it, fine; if not, that's fine too.

As to what I write, I am not here to convert minds or win souls. I have my own agenda and I follow it studiously. And why is this appropriate to this topic, well it is about riots but granted this isn't Oakland.

I actually agree with Al on this point.

The claim of "being targeted" is just an attempt deflect.

First, Odumbo is Odumbo. Whether you agree or not is immaterial, that is your prerogative. To place any person upon a pedestal, except for a loved one by one's own consent, and somehow imagine they are somehow superior is the mark of a statist, one that believes in slavery and needs a master. Definitely not me, so he is Odumbo, some joker that thinks he is what he is not as opposed to Befuddled, the one before him.

Very true, people aren't always of a position to determine any fragment of what is or is not true. It is the result of a diseased psyche caused by Moral Relativism, the inability to determine the difference between right and wrong. Just why do you think all those riots are occurring?

And there are no estimates of truth, either it is or it isn't. There is no middle ground, that is perception not truth. Those that believe there is no such thing as objective truth tend to lean in the direction called Solipsism, a perception they are God, like Odumbo. They are mentally ill.

Yes, we can agree on that. I think it is segregational history, cultural, perpetuated by the media, dis-informed propaganda, and the spread of sabotage of legitimate dissent.

Kewl article on Orwellian Politics and the English Language.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

Really, so no churches have ever been bombed in Alabama? And no businesses burned out in Mississippi?

Check your premises, you are in error again.

Sure, stop posting to it and it will go away.

Al has a historical point. Granted, white folks in the USA haven't recently rioted for racial reasons.

I wouldn't be too sure about that, are you?

Feel free to cite a news report of a recent riot in which white Americans rioted for racial reasons.

uh, I disallowed KKK fanatics that are of an occult in my point.