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Topic: Wow, Just Wow! Unbelieveable!
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Sun 11/02/14 12:37 PM
JACKSON, MS (Mississippi News Now) - What started out as a peaceful candlelight vigil, turned into an emotional scene on Monday night.

The mother of a 15-year-old killed this weekend while riding in a stolen car is blaming the police for her daughter's death. But Jackson police say they are not at fault.

Keisha Redmond, Keonna's mother says her daughter didn't have to die.
"They killed my baby. Someone else's baby is on life support and another person in jail damn near for the rest of their life because of a $12,000 car and a joy ride," Redmond tells us.

Jackson police say Keonna and two other teens were speeding down Raymond Road in the early hours of Saturday morning. An officer clocked the vehicle and made the stop.

Police say the officer pulled the vehicle over and once he got out of his car and started walking toward the vehicle, the driver of the car took off.

Chief Lee Vance says the officer never gave chase because the driver turned down a side street and then slammed into a tree.

But Keisha Redmond isn't buying it and is still searching for answers.

"This about a high speed chase. It was three kids in that car that night, 14 and two 15 year olds. My baby is dead and another child in ICU and another baby about to do life in jail. All because a police officer took the initiative to chase them children. For one stolen car."

http://www.wlox.com/story/27054866/mother-blames-jackson-police-for-death-of-daughter

How is this any of the cops fault?!?!?!?!?! Some people are just professional victims.

So let me get this straight, if the cop would have just looked the other way at the multiple crimes committed by this Ferel and her criminal friends. Hell, the mom looks like she has done some time in prison herself.

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 11/02/14 12:52 PM
A mother grieving the sudden death of a child isn't necessarily going to think straight.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/02/14 12:53 PM
what were those Kids doing at night,riding a stolen Car,instead of being home where they belonged?

Lpdon's photo
Sun 11/02/14 01:02 PM

A mother grieving the sudden death of a child isn't necessarily going to think straight.


This is a lot more then just not thinking straight.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/02/14 01:07 PM


A mother grieving the sudden death of a child isn't necessarily going to think straight.


This is a lot more then just not thinking straight.

no worry,Al and Jesse will set her straight!pitchfork

Rock's photo
Sun 11/02/14 01:09 PM
So, the mother, who couldn't be bothered to teach her daughter right from wrong... Is blaming someone else, for consequences of her own inaction?

Lpdon's photo
Sun 11/02/14 01:09 PM

what were those Kids doing at night,riding a stolen Car,instead of being home where they belonged?


Well, they probably heard about it in a rap song or saw it in a rap music video.

Gotta look at the bright side, this just saved the tax payers a lifetime of money in prison expenses, supervision (Parole and Probation), attorney's fee's etc.

metalwing's photo
Sun 11/02/14 01:51 PM
Where was the "father" during all this? Maybe the law should be blaming the parents for conduct caused by lack of parenting?

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/02/14 02:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/02/14 02:31 PM
tragic for all involved

but for the children deciding to run after being stopped, the same mother may have been thanking officers for preventing a tragedy

senseless loss of a child,, either for their own senseless action or another's has to be one of the greatest feelings of loss

I feel for the parents, even though they are misplacing their emotions in this case,,,,

If the driver is the one charged , it is as it should be
if it is a passenger being potentially sent to jail for life,, that would be an injustice,,,


Kindlightheart's photo
Sun 11/02/14 03:29 PM
Very sorry to hear about the death of a young person and the injured ones as well,..how the mother blames the police is a sad thing...perhaps in shock and is not thinking right...I think that law enforcement does at times go way beyond what they should but they do have a job to do...last time I checked speeding down a road in a stolen car is against the law...hope the mother can someday find peace in her heart for her loss...but the more people that blame law enforcement for their or their loved ones poor choices the worse it gets for everyone involved...shame it is...

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 11/03/14 06:58 AM

Let's talk parenting skills....

The loss of any child is a sad affair, and yes, police violence is out of control, but this case is not one of them.

Sadly, it sounds like mom is looking for a payday more than answers.

Argo's photo
Mon 11/03/14 11:23 AM
i'd say this story is missing some important facts, such as....how far away was the side street they turned on ?....how far down that street was the tree they ran into ?....did the officer hear the crash and was he the 1st one on the crash scene ? and most important....what about the dash-cam ???? was it operable ? was it somehow mysteriously turned off ???

that camera evidence would clearly corroborate the officers version of the suspects fleeing the scene of the traffic stop....it's time to hold officers of the law accountable for their actions....no squad-car should be allowed in service w/o an operable dash-cam and all officers should be equipped with a body-cam....those cameras are a good cops best friend...for the bad cop, they are his worst enemy....

i would reserve any judgment about the mother until all the facts are presented....the remarks about bad parenting, looking for a payday, looks like she has done some time herself, saving the taxpayers money because the child is dead and being a professional victim are not only derogatory but also inflammatory in nature......some of you are no better than those you profess to hate so much....think....Al and Jesse...............jmo

metalwing's photo
Mon 11/03/14 02:06 PM

i'd say this story is missing some important facts, such as....how far away was the side street they turned on ?....how far down that street was the tree they ran into ?....did the officer hear the crash and was he the 1st one on the crash scene ? and most important....what about the dash-cam ???? was it operable ? was it somehow mysteriously turned off ???

that camera evidence would clearly corroborate the officers version of the suspects fleeing the scene of the traffic stop....it's time to hold officers of the law accountable for their actions....no squad-car should be allowed in service w/o an operable dash-cam and all officers should be equipped with a body-cam....those cameras are a good cops best friend...for the bad cop, they are his worst enemy....

i would reserve any judgment about the mother until all the facts are presented....the remarks about bad parenting, looking for a payday, looks like she has done some time herself, saving the taxpayers money because the child is dead and being a professional victim are not only derogatory but also inflammatory in nature......some of you are no better than those you profess to hate so much....think....Al and Jesse...............jmo


The assumption is that the police chief is telling the truth. If the story turns out to be much different, then the comments don't apply to the different story. If the story is so easy to disprove as to look at a dashcam, I would think the Chief would have done so.

If it turned out that the cops were chasing a speeding car that happened to be jacked by some teenagers and the teen driver crashed the car, my comment wouldn't change and I still wouldn't give the mother any credit for blaming the police for doing their job.

You can reserve your judgement all you want but if the stated facts stand, the comments are appropriate except for the ones you made about hate.

Argo's photo
Mon 11/03/14 02:55 PM
you know what happens when you assume the facts....

when did you ever see a cop not give chase to a fleeing suspect ??
chief vance stated the officer "did not give chase because the suspects turned down a side street and crashed into a tree" that is the biggest crock of bull i've ever heard in my life....this is irresponsible reporting at best and jumping to conclusions...
produce the dash-cam video, if there is one, to show whether or not these kids were, in fact, pulled over and then fled...or just a high-speed chase until they crashed into the tree....


metalwing's photo
Mon 11/03/14 04:02 PM

you know what happens when you assume the facts....

when did you ever see a cop not give chase to a fleeing suspect ??
chief vance stated the officer "did not give chase because the suspects turned down a side street and crashed into a tree" that is the biggest crock of bull i've ever heard in my life....this is irresponsible reporting at best and jumping to conclusions...
produce the dash-cam video, if there is one, to show whether or not these kids were, in fact, pulled over and then fled...or just a high-speed chase until they crashed into the tree....




I'm not assuming any facts. I am accepting the facts, as stated by the police dept, to be true. That is their job. That is part of being a professional. When I state the facts on a project I am working on, people "assume" I am telling them the truth. I separate my opinion from my observation of the "facts". Police are supposed to do the same thing but seldom does their opinion officially enter the picture.

I am not saying that some police don't lie or that occasionally they don't cover up their mistakes, but I don't see any reason for them to lie here because the crash is the kids' fault any way you look at it.

I think you are finding "hate" where it doesn't exist. That is what Jackson and Sharpton do.

no photo
Mon 11/03/14 04:31 PM

i'd say this story is missing some important facts, such as....how far away was the side street they turned on ?....how far down that street was the tree they ran into ?....did the officer hear the crash and was he the 1st one on the crash scene ? and most important....what about the dash-cam ???? was it operable ? was it somehow mysteriously turned off ???

that camera evidence would clearly corroborate the officers version of the suspects fleeing the scene of the traffic stop....it's time to hold officers of the law accountable for their actions....no squad-car should be allowed in service w/o an operable dash-cam and all officers should be equipped with a body-cam....those cameras are a good cops best friend...for the bad cop, they are his worst enemy....

i would reserve any judgment about the mother until all the facts are presented....the remarks about bad parenting, looking for a payday, looks like she has done some time herself, saving the taxpayers money because the child is dead and being a professional victim are not only derogatory but also inflammatory in nature......some of you are no better than those you profess to hate so much....think....Al and Jesse...............jmo


What does any of it matter? First, that they stole a car to go joy riding seems to be a confirmed fact. Second, pulled over and then ran or high speed chase from the beginning, they were running from the police at high speed, another fact, they were running. Third, a tree was not in the middle of the road but they managed to hit it, another confirmed fact. And lastly, now they need to face the consequences of their actions, driving recklessly kills.

Also, the responsible guardians should be held accountable which in today's world would be the state as they have assumed the responsibility of having children as wards of the state. They should prosecute the parents for being irresponsible in the control of the wards of the state and be placed in involuntary servitude in a corporate prison environment until the corporate state has received full restitution for their loss.

Argo's photo
Mon 11/03/14 04:41 PM


you know what happens when you assume the facts....

when did you ever see a cop not give chase to a fleeing suspect ??
chief vance stated the officer "did not give chase because the suspects turned down a side street and crashed into a tree" that is the biggest crock of bull i've ever heard in my life....this is irresponsible reporting at best and jumping to conclusions...
produce the dash-cam video, if there is one, to show whether or not these kids were, in fact, pulled over and then fled...or just a high-speed chase until they crashed into the tree....




I'm not assuming any facts. I am accepting the facts, as stated by the police dept, to be true. That is their job. That is part of being a professional. When I state the facts on a project I am working on, people "assume" I am telling them the truth. I separate my opinion from my observation of the "facts". Police are supposed to do the same thing but seldom does their opinion officially enter the picture.

I am not saying that some police don't lie or that occasionally they don't cover up their mistakes, but I don't see any reason for them to lie here because the crash is the kids' fault any way you look at it.

I think you are finding "hate" where it doesn't exist. That is what Jackson and Sharpton do.


i'll reiterate for the last time.....produce the dash-cam video and it will lay all doubt and assumptions to rest about the facts in this case...the video will show the entire chase sequence as it happened in real time including the arresting officer standing idly by while the suspects fled...

as for any hate...i only brought attention to the hateful comments by those who made them here on this thread.....kids do stupid things every day....those nasty things said about the mother were highly inappropriate and deserved or not, should be kept to oneself...some of our most outstanding citizens have had their children run afoul of the law at times.. they shouldn't be raked over the coals as terrible people because of bad decisions made by their children.....

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Mon 11/03/14 04:45 PM

you know what happens when you assume the facts....

when did you ever see a cop not give chase to a fleeing suspect ??
chief vance stated the officer "did not give chase because the suspects turned down a side street and crashed into a tree" that is the biggest crock of bull i've ever heard in my life....this is irresponsible reporting at best and jumping to conclusions...
produce the dash-cam video, if there is one, to show whether or not these kids were, in fact, pulled over and then fled...or just a high-speed chase until they crashed into the tree....




Yes, the preceding statement is a perfect example of an assumption of facts or actually just an assumption as facts seem to be missing.

While this country has become an out of control police state or actually worse, an out of control militarized police state, in this case they were acting in their true capacity, restoring the peace. It is the kids that are in the wrong, being in possession of stolen property. We will never know that if they hadn't taken themselves out against a tree if the police would have reverted to a police function and taken them out with weapons but in this case it never progressed that far.

Also, there are still many officers in this nation that still serve as the peace officers they were intended to be. However, just like anything else to do with our nation thinking it is a democracy, the psychopaths are taking over and drumming out those not in agreement. Police matters no longer hinge on restoring peace but in how many will be apprehended and processed through the revenue system.

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Mon 11/03/14 04:49 PM
dash cam seems the reasonable 'evidence' to tie things up,,,,,

I can believe that they drove off and into a tree
I can also believe there was a chase that lead to a crash

,,however, in the latter case, I do believe the police should be within their job to give chase,,,,,

Argo's photo
Mon 11/03/14 05:10 PM



What does any of it matter? First, that they stole a car to go joy riding seems to be a confirmed fact. Second, pulled over and then ran or high speed chase from the beginning, they were running from the police at high speed, another fact, they were running. Third, a tree was not in the middle of the road but they managed to hit it, another confirmed fact. And lastly, now they need to face the consequences of their actions, driving recklessly kills.

Also, the responsible guardians should be held accountable which in today's world would be the state as they have assumed the responsibility of having children as wards of the state. They should prosecute the parents for being irresponsible in the control of the wards of the state and be placed in involuntary servitude in a corporate prison environment until the corporate state has received full restitution for their loss.

what does it matter ??? are you kiddin' me..? when you can prove to me, beyond a shadow of doubt that this wasn't some over-zealous cop, hell-bent on catching these criminals that he didn't use his squad car to take out the rear end of the suspects car and possibly ram them into that tree then i might agree with you....have you ever heard of passive pursuit ? far too many innocent victims have been killed or maimed do to high-speed chases that got out of hand....

as for the remark on involuntary servitude in a corporate prison....i can only laugh...

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