And that is the dilemma of racism in our times. We have hints, suggestions, indications, if you will, of racial bias all around us today. But it is typically unspoken, if not altogether invisible, much of the time. And where it's not invisible, there is often a plausible cover story that can be told as to why racially differential treatment was somehow justifiable or legitimate.



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but truly, even in times when racism was more blatant and visible, there was pretty much the same majority of people who couldn't or wouldn't see its existence or the level of its impact upon minorities.

I was wondering when you were gonna stop flirting with Dodo and get to the point

Its an example not a definition. Other races are allowed to form organizations that are strictly marketed to that race. Yet there is one race that is singled out and not allowed to do that. How is that not racial discrimination?

because it is a RESULT Of discrimination

people complaining,,, 'why do we have to do that for you, why dont you do it for yourself?'

so,, we do, when we can,, and the same people than yell 'reverse racism'

its truly a lose/lose with people who refuse to look at things in context

So racism is due to racism?

dont hurt yourself,,lol

when people are EXCLUDED or DISCRIMINATED AGAINST< they often must rally around and support each other instead of waiting for someone else to

that is why minorities can 'market' to minorities because the majority already market to the majority,,,

And you proved my point. Claiming things that are for the general public are some how actually for white people.

There are such organizations and this is a major point here- the National Association for the Advancement of White People, etc are not mainstream. Why? They are actually focused on their lost of status and react with aggression and violence. Look at how Xianity is claiming it is under attack when its not; what is happening is people don't take it seriously and want equal rights for the faith they choose. So stopping things like evocations, etc simply means don't shove it down my throat not let's destroy Xianity. Yet the lost of power and influence once enjoyed causes irrational responses.

its not a claim,,,in my lifetime, during elementary years, I could count on one hand how many positive black images I saw on television and media,

In my lifetime, they initiated black history month and it was the FIRST time I heard of any black historical figures

the education system then was for the 'general' public too,,


in my lifetime, I could pull up Facts and numbers about disenfranchisement of minorities

one has to be willfully blind to believe that just because something claims to be for a 'general' public, it will automatically be inclusive of all members of the public,,,,


the 'norm' is going to be the majority,, what is 'general' is going to reflect the norm

what is not in the majority, is not the norm and therefore not often included in whats 'general'

so yeah, when one is not par tof the 'general/majority' group, they may have to focus on something more specific to ensure they are represented

So your racism is ok because of your experiences? You want your minority specific stuff that is fine, however claiming things for the general public are some how "white" is racist.

'general' things are going to represent WHITE people because they are the majority

you cant turn on the thousands of stations on a radio or television without being sure to see some other WHITE people and hear WHITE people, and see and hear them quite often, that is GENERAL

however, I cant be sure that I will see or hear many black people when I go to a station, or event, , unless there is something specifying that black people will be represented,,,

there is nothing racist in the truth of how things are, and thats how things are,,,it doesnt need to have 'white' in the title for a white person to be pretty sure they will be represented there,,,historically, anc currently

the same cant be said for blacks and other minorities,,,

Wow race is is ingrained in your mind set you cant seperate it from anything. This is what keeps the country from moving forward.

no, what keeps it from moving forward is those who refuse to even aknowledge the reality of the benefit in being part of the majority that may sometimes cause a disadvantage , underrepresentation, or even exclusion for the minority

which , by the way, happens in more countries than america and more races than white,,,or black

for instance, hispanics are a part of the 'general' public, and we have SPANISH channels now, but that isnt because its racist, its because its already the 'general' expectation that most other channels will be english speaking,,,they dont need to advertise 'english' in their titles, its ASSUMED as the 'norm' of the 'general' public

but when people are stuck up on the 'white' thing only , and refuse to aknowledge any bigger context,,

we will continue to have no resolutions

if its really offensive that we might have a BET, when for DECADES whites had ABC, CBS, and NBC(before cable),,,

if its really offensive that we might have an NAACP, when for DECADES whites had CONGRESS<,,lol

than, I guess the discussion is halted for many at a place of situational blindness

Well somethings I find offensive, like the Real Housewives of Atlanta- I heard that one wife's song- "I'm Gone with the Wind Fabulous" was number #1 in Guantanimo- they used it to torture people

I find most reality tv spotlighting grownups acting like they lost their minds to be offensive,,,lol

but I think we are slightly off topic

What was the topic again? You banging your head against a wall trying to get certain people to accept that racism exists? Certain people replying that you are playing the race card? I think everyone who could hear your message heard it and those who couldn't won't anyway.

Now about that Atlanta housefrau who made an exercise video while several months pregnant, talk about bad timing.

BTW, I have seen isms; after the strokes, I have taught myself to walk again but with a limp (which is actually basically walked before); but going to job interviews I am asked questions like- can you run? Can you drive? Running was not on the job description and I have never ran on a job, but- Oh so you can't run! Can I drive? (PA is a ":reporting" state and I needed to be vetted by OTs in order to drive) Driving is how I got to the interview, but- oh you can't drive. Just like when I walked up two flights of stairs only to be told that I can not walk up stairs.

I know this is a little off topic but I think it's also important to remember that race is not the only "ism" where discrimination can occur. I have experienced more than my share of both age and gender bias ( that is not race specific)

whatever someone's minority status is there are bound to be support groups or organizations. That helps the minority formulate an identity to communicate with the majority and feel their own sense of community. we all like to sometimes be with people we have a lot in common with whether it's race and the NAACP, The Red Hat Society for Women, or the Golden Agers Club for your credit card, AARP, or The Men's Bowling League at Joe's Bar and Grill which I would not want to be a member of because Stinky and Fred hog all pretzels and cheat on the score cards....

but whatever. those groups are there to give us support and identity.. Anyone who has a problem with that is nit picking (except Stinky's wife Merle who has to sweep up all the pretzel crumbs)lol

My problem with groups like the NAACP is, forcing taxpayers to fund it.

They want their little club?

Let them pay for it.