I recently just went through a barrage of judgment from a person I thought understood my beliefs. It was out of no-where that this person told me that I was a Luke-warm Christian due to me being okay with sex before marriage.

It hurt not only being called a person that God wants to spit out of his mouth, but more so because I cared for this girl. We had come to an agreement before hand, and I thought we we're on the same page. But then out of no-where, she one eighties on me, but I don't blame her at all for feeling this way.

As someone who believes/knows Jesus died for my sins, I know just how BIG God really is, but I also have a lot of confidence in Him knowing me inside and out as well. I am a sinner, and will sin for the rest of my life, but I am just tired of so many people who go through condemnation and persecution on a daily basis that end up doing this to each other!

It's all about God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit in the end, but at the same time, apart of me really does just want that intimacy in a sexual relationship with another human being.

What do you think? No judgement here at all, I'm just wondering what others believe on this topic.

I think Adam and Eve just had God.

They did Rainbow :), and even in the Garden, they fell into sin :/. It's apart of who we are unfortunately.

What's so boring Thomas? I'm definitely interested in others opinions on this topic :D. Please chime in.

I don't know anyone who hasn't comitted this sin, if indeed it is a sin

Thank you Bemma, we all have, and most are just ashamed of it. For me there's just no point to hide it. I have no shame in the presence of God.

This is the way I look at it.
The world today, is a meat grinder.
People are killing and destroying each other and everything around them.
Having sex with someone you love...without marriage,
is a very minor detail.
Unfortunately, religious fanatics sometimes tend to see it the other way around.

I like that point of View Poncho.

I have to say i'm not ashamed of not being a virgin, but i take your point. Like Mr Pancho has just stated, i think there are more things to worry about than sex before marriage, especially when two people love each other

Emma

I have had sex before marriage lots of times. Actually more than I have had sex within marriage..

If you want to have sex, just have sex.

I even had sex in Arizona once. (so there are girls there that will do it)

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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Adulterer - Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse

Fornication - Sexual intercourse between partners who are not married to each other


Seems to me with there being two different mentions of sexual relation outside of marriage potentially keeping one out of Heaven I would suggest keeping it zipped up till there's a ring on that finger.

I knew it! Told you so!!

There are two pieces of reality that are in conflict with each other.

Yes, the Bible describes sexual intercourse outside of biblical marriage* as being sinful.

At the same time, our flesh desires things that are sinful.

We Christians will always face this struggle between the desires of the flesh and the revealed will of God.

Of course we will mess up occasionally and give in to sinful desires.
When that happens, our fellowship with God is marred, until we confess our sin and repent.

The real trouble comes whenever we develop a seared conscience and openly pursue sinful living. At that point, the flesh become the real master.

Sadly, more and more people claiming to be Christians have developed a seared conscience.

In summary, if you are a Christian and want to live within God's revealed will, then refrain from sexual intercourse outside of biblical marriage*.


[*Biblical marriage is a union between a man and woman only.]

if people want to follow all the bible says about this, guys would not be allowed to pursue relationships with divorced women either, because you would then make that women an adulterer. ...

its always intriguing to me what the most judgemental of Christians choose and dont choose what to follow, but they have no problems in telking you what to follow

I have a different view than most "religious"Christians do, but thats a whole other topic

2 Corinthians 3:4-6

4) Such is the confidence that we have through Christ toward God. 5) Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God, 6) who has made us competent [1] to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Totally agree Cowboy. But the hardest thing is even just staring at a woman with lust, in doing so we have committed Adultery in our hearts, which is the same thing as above mentioned.

We're men, and as such, it's a battle and a journey I'm learning. All sin, no matter the human opinion, is considered the same in the eyes of God. And Jesus, blessedly has allowed us freedom from it in God's eyes, especially when we stumble.

Thanks Brother for sharing this with me :).

Again, I agree David. But the word also tells us in Philippians 1:6

"6) And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ." Which tells me no matter how many times I mess up sexually, or even if I have the wrong motive, that He will never give up on me.

I also really meditate on Romans 5:3-5 ESV:

"More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us."

Thanks Brother.

Same here Isaac. My motivation in life is to allow God to use me to finally bring some of these "Christians" down from their pedestal and to not accept sin, but to accept their humanity, and then pray for a revival in the hearts of men so that they can see how broken they are. "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth."

Christ is the the only reason for any chance of hope or happiness in any of our lives. It's so beautiful! I accept my faults, and I think others will finally benefit from doing the same. But we need to do this openly, and no longer in secret or behind each others backs :).

We as a followers of Christ need to accept that we will never have a chance to be like him through our own accord and knowledge, but through the Holy Spirit itself! God's word is alive yes, but Jesus is risen for a reason, and the Holy spirit is the living and flourishing embodiment of our magnificent God! And He's here right now, even in my dirtiest of being.

Very true, that's why you take vows during the marriage. The vows are not just to each other, but also to God. What's wrong with that? Just don't jump into marriage before you're sure.