Topic: whats your theory on this missing plane then?
Candiapples's photo
Tue 03/11/14 06:58 PM
A reason to start world war 3?

Ras427's photo
Tue 03/11/14 07:29 PM

without any evidence there is no theory...DUH!!
Actually there are several, as there always is until the facts confirm or deny.

uche9aa's photo
Wed 03/12/14 01:56 AM
Their phones were still ringing yesterday when relatives called.Who will believe my theory if i decide to reveal it?

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 03/12/14 02:09 AM


Malaysia Plane Hidden With Electronic Weaponry? 20 High-Tech EW Defense Passengers

Four people in particular who boarded the missing Malaysian plane are being investigated, two for stolen passports and two other passport-related suspects. Those four suspects plus twenty people on board involved in cutting edge electric technology. some used for defense purposes, raise a question with this reporter about electronic weaponry hiding the plane.

Added to the tragic mystery is why not one country checked databases for information about stolen passports used to board the Malaysia Airlines flight.

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http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/electronic-weaponry-hiding-malaysia-plane-24-suspects-on-board-2432744.html?utm_campaign=&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FbTbT&utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse

Is that the same site who had all the Astronauts on the ISS dead by asphyxiation from a massive Heliumleak a while back?

regularfeller's photo
Wed 03/12/14 04:17 AM
the phones are ringing because they have an active service plan, the device itself does not have to be intact or even exist.


Duttoneer's photo
Thu 03/13/14 01:29 AM
Edited by Duttoneer on Thu 03/13/14 01:32 AM
Flight MH370: 10 other mysterious aviation disasters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26531675

Hurricane26218's photo
Thu 03/13/14 01:36 AM
I'm so sorry but felt like being an accident. As chinese satellite has revealed the captured photos which resembled the broken pieces.

willing2's photo
Thu 03/13/14 07:59 AM

the phones are ringing because they have an active service plan, the device itself does not have to be intact or even exist.



Phones that are broken or off go directly to voicemail.

Candiapples's photo
Thu 03/13/14 02:11 PM

the phones are ringing because they have an active service plan, the device itself does not have to be intact or even exist.



I thought it went to voicemail/

I think they were abducted [not by aliens] lol and will be used as hostages for whatever reason? Any idea how many Americans were on Board?

regularfeller's photo
Thu 03/13/14 05:53 PM
not necessarily, but a ridiculous thing to argue. all i can say is that i believe it is known what became of the plane but it is being withheld from the public until it can be given a spin that doesn't create an outcry. And I believe the last american count was 3.

regularfeller's photo
Thu 03/13/14 06:13 PM


the phones are ringing because they have an active service plan, the device itself does not have to be intact or even exist.



I thought it went to voicemail/

I think they were abducted [not by aliens] lol and will be used as hostages for whatever reason? Any idea how many Americans were on Board?



laugh I thought people just said that when they were cheating on their significant others and didn't want to answer the phone!

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/13/14 06:54 PM

the phones are ringing because they have an active service plan, the device itself does not have to be intact or even exist.




i guess you've never dropped your phone in water... if the device is not on, it goes straight to voice mail...

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 03/14/14 05:39 AM

I'm not going to theorize this one except to say that if there is any kind of plot behind it, one should worry what the next shoe to drop might be because they seem to have circumvented an entire world of surveillance technology

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 03/14/14 06:09 AM
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Investigators_focus_on_foul_play_behind_missing_plane_-_sources.html?cid=38116164

March 14, 2014 - 12:51

By Niluksi Koswanage and Siva Govindasamy

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - An investigation into the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner is focusing more on a suspicion of foul play, as evidence suggests it was diverted hundreds of miles off course, sources familiar with the Malaysian probe said.

In a far more detailed description of military radar plotting than has been publicly revealed, two sources told Reuters an unidentified aircraft that investigators suspect was missing Flight MH370 appeared to be following a commonly used navigational route when it was last spotted early on Saturday, northwest of Malaysia.

That course - headed into the Andaman Sea and towards the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean - could only have been set deliberately, either by flying the Boeing 777-200ER jet manually or by programming the auto-pilot.

A third investigative source said inquiries were focusing more on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight hundreds of miles off its scheduled course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 03/14/14 12:56 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 03/14/14 12:58 PM

Special Conditions: Boeing Model 777-200, -300, and -300ER Series Airplanes; Aircraft Electronic System Security Protection From Unauthorized Internal Access


Summary

These special conditions are issued for the Boeing Model 777-200, -300, and -300ER series airplanes. These airplanes, as modified by the Boeing Company, will have novel or unusual design features associated with the architecture and connectivity of the passenger service computer network systems to the airplane critical systems and data networks. This onboard network system will be composed of a network file server, a network extension device, and additional interfaces configured by customer option. The applicable airworthiness regulations do not contain adequate or appropriate safety standards for this design feature. These special conditions contain the additional safety standards that the Administrator considers necessary to establish a level of safety equivalent to that established by the existing airworthiness standards.

http://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/18/2013-27343/special-conditions-boeing-model-777-200--300-and--300er-series-airplanes-aircraft-electronic-system


Malaysian Airliner: Turns out Boeing Warned About Electronic HiJacking possibility of 777

Hurricane26218's photo
Sun 03/16/14 01:43 AM
Rival theories on Malaysia flight's
disappearance

The disappearance of Malaysia
Airlines Flight 370 has generated
dozens of theories on where it is
now, from the Indian Ocean to the
South China Sea, and how it
vanished. Here's a rundown of what
we know and what we don't, along
with clues and theories about what
happened to the Boeing 777
jetliner:

THE WHERE:
— LAST CONTACT: Flight MH370 last
communicated with air traffic
control on March 8 east of Malaysia,
and that area of the South China
Sea between Malaysia and Vietnam
initially was the focus of the search.
Many experts assumed the plane
had suffered a sudden catastrophic
event because pilots didn't alert
ground control before it vanished
from radar screens.
However, nothing was found there
or farther north in the Gulf of
Thailand. Within 18 hours,
Malaysian authorities said they
believed the plane may have tried
to turn back, and search planes and
vessels were sent to the Strait of
Malacca, on the other side of
Malaysia.

— EXPANDED SEARCH: The search
moved into the Indian Ocean on
Friday after U.S. officials said the
plane had sent signals to satellites
for hours after its last contact with
air traffic control. The U.S. Navy
moved one of its ships in the Strait
of Malacca. India has said it is
searching hundreds of small,
uninhabited islands in the
Andaman Sea more than 700 miles
west of the plane's last known
position.

— SEISMIC REPORT: A Chinese
university says it detected a seismic
event in a "non-seismic zone" near
the spot in the South China Sea
where the plane lost contact with
air traffic control. U.S. geologists
said the event was a 2.8-magnitude
earthquake off the coast of
Indonesia, and said a quake
resulting from a plane crash was
improbable.

THE WHY:
'HUMAN INTERVENTION': A U.S.
official said in Washington that
investigators are examining the
possibility of "human intervention"
and that the disappearance may
have been "an act of piracy." The
key evidence behind the theory is
the fact that contact with the
Boeing 777's transponder stopped
several minutes before a messaging
system on the jet stopped working.
Some experts are leaning toward
the theory that pilots or someone
else with aviation experience
deliberately veered the plane off
course. They find it hard to believe
that a modern jetliner like the 777
would experience a total electronic
failure that left the plane unable to
communicate, yet able to keep
flying.

TERRORISM: Early speculation
leaned toward terrorism after two
men, later identified as Iranians,
boarded the plane with stolen
passports. Authorities later
determined they were migrants
seeking to travel to Europe illegally.
No group has claimed responsibility
for the lost plane, and experts have
questioned why, if the jet was
hijacked, those responsible didn't
target a city or military installation.
MECHANICAL FAILURE: Experts now
see this theory as unlikely following
word that the plane was emitting
signals for hours after it
disappeared, and given the fact
that no debris has been recovered
from close to the plane's last known
position. The plane's flight data
recorder and cockpit voice recorder
can transmit signals for up to 30
days, but none have been detected.

DECOMPRESSION: Experts say it's
possible the plane continued to fly
while a decompression left everyone
on board unconscious and unable
to respond, similar to what
happened in the 1999 crash that
killed golfer Payne Stewart and five
others. A Malaysian investigator
said on Friday that based on the
plane's course, it appeared a skilled
person was flying in the cockpit.

THE SIGNALS
WHAT THEY MEAN: The plane was
sending out signals to a satellite,
not unlike the way a cellphone tries
to make contact with a base station
even when it is off. That the plane
was still sending out these
messages for at least four hours
after it was last spotted means it
was still in one piece after it
stopped communicating with the
ground.

WHERE THE PLANE COULD HAVE
BEEN: Experts believe the
transmissions mean it was still in
the air after it stopped
communicating with air traffic
control.

WHY SIGNALS STOPPED: A retired
pilot and instructor for Boeing 777s
says the plane has two
transponders that emit radar data.
Both can be shut off by simply
turning a knob in the cockpit,
keeping radar contact alive but
removing key identifiers like air
speed and altitude from air traffic
controllers' screens. Retired Capt.
Ross Aimer says under normal
circumstances, there's no reason for
a pilot to turn off the transponders.

THE IMAGES
CHINESE SATELLITE PICTURES:
Images published on a government
website showed three suspected
floating objects, and search planes
were dispatched to an area of the
South China Sea off the southern
tip of Vietnam. But several experts
said it appeared very unlikely the
debris was from a crashed Boeing
777.

OIL SLICKS: Oil slicks were seen
Saturday in the South China Sea,
raising initial speculation that the
plane had gone down there. ButRival theories on Malaysia flight's
disappearance
Associated Press - Friday, March 14,
2014
The disappearance of Malaysia
Airlines Flight 370 has generated
dozens of theories on where it is
now, from the Indian Ocean to the
South China Sea, and how it
vanished. Here's a rundown of what
we know and what we don't, along
with clues and theories about what
happened to the Boeing 777
jetliner:
THE WHERE:
— LAST CONTACT: Flight MH370 last
communicated with air traffic
control on March 8 east of Malaysia,
and that area of the South China
Sea between Malaysia and Vietnam
initially was the focus of the search.
Many experts assumed the plane
had suffered a sudden catastrophic
event because pilots didn't alert
ground control before it vanished
from radar screens.
However, nothing was found there
or farther north in the Gulf of
Thailand. Within 18 hours,
Malaysian authorities said they
believed the plane may have tried
to turn back, and search planes and
vessels were sent to the Strait of
Malacca, on the other side of
Malaysia.
— EXPANDED SEARCH: The search
moved into the Indian Ocean on
Friday after U.S. officials said the
plane had sent signals to satellites
for hours after its last contact with
air traffic control. The U.S. Navy
moved one of its ships in the Strait
of Malacca. India has said it is
searching hundreds of small,
uninhabited islands in the
Andaman Sea more than 700 miles
west of the plane's last known
position.
— SEISMIC REPORT: A Chinese
university says it detected a seismic
event in a "non-seismic zone" near
the spot in the South China Sea
where the plane lost contact with
air traffic control. U.S. geologists
said the event was a 2.8-magnitude
earthquake off the coast of
Indonesia, and said a quake
resulting from a plane crash was
improbable.
THE WHY:
'HUMAN INTERVENTION': A U.S.
official said in Washington that
investigators are examining the
possibility of "human intervention"
and that the disappearance may
have been "an act of piracy." The
key evidence behind the theory is
the fact that contact with the
Boeing 777's transponder stopped
several minutes before a messaging
system on the jet stopped working.
Some experts are leaning toward
the theory that pilots or someone
else with aviation experience
deliberately veered the plane off
course. They find it hard to believe
that a modern jetliner like the 777
would experience a total electronic
failure that left the plane unable to
communicate, yet able to keep
flying.
TERRORISM: Early speculation
leaned toward terrorism after two
men, later identified as Iranians,
boarded the plane with stolen
passports. Authorities later
determined they were migrants
seeking to travel to Europe illegally.
No group has claimed responsibility
for the lost plane, and experts have
questioned why, if the jet was
hijacked, those responsible didn't
target a city or military installation.
MECHANICAL FAILURE: Experts now
see this theory as unlikely following
word that the plane was emitting
signals for hours after it
disappeared, and given the fact
that no debris has been recovered
from close to the plane's last known
position. The plane's flight data
recorder and cockpit voice recorder
can transmit signals for up to 30
days, but none have been detected.
DECOMPRESSION: Experts say it's
possible the plane continued to fly
while a decompression left everyone
on board unconscious and unable
to respond, similar to what
happened in the 1999 crash that
killed golfer Payne Stewart and five
others. A Malaysian investigator
said on Friday that based on the
plane's course, it appeared a skilled
person was flying in the cockpit.
THE SIGNALS
WHAT THEY MEAN: The plane was
sending out signals to a satellite,
not unlike the way a cellphone tries
to make contact with a base station
even when it is off. That the plane
was still sending out these
messages for at least four hours
after it was last spotted means it
was still in one piece after it
stopped communicating with the
ground.
WHERE THE PLANE COULD HAVE
BEEN: Experts believe the
transmissions mean it was still in
the air after it stopped
communicating with air traffic
control.
WHY SIGNALS STOPPED: A retired
pilot and instructor for Boeing 777s
says the plane has two
transponders that emit radar data.
Both can be shut off by simply
turning a knob in the cockpit,
keeping radar contact alive but
removing key identifiers like air
speed and altitude from air traffic
controllers' screens. Retired Capt.
Ross Aimer says under normal
circumstances, there's no reason for
a pilot to turn off the transponders.
THE IMAGES
CHINESE SATELLITE PICTURES:
Images published on a government
website showed three suspected
floating objects, and search planes
were dispatched to an area of the
South China Sea off the southern
tip of Vietnam. But several experts
said it appeared very unlikely the
debris was from a crashed Boeing
777.
OIL SLICKS: Oil slicks were seen
Saturday in the South China Sea,
raising initial speculation that the
plane had gone down there. But
the substance was tested and was
found not to be jetliner fuel.
the substance was tested and was
found not to be jetliner fuel.

Duttoneer's photo
Tue 03/18/14 11:13 AM
Missing Malaysia plane: 10 theories examined


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26609687

Toks88's photo
Tue 03/18/14 03:46 PM
Missing Malaysia plane been told in different ways. Which is right to believe?.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 03/18/14 03:53 PM
The cabin fire story has 2 missing points – the plane had to have landed intact, because the engines uplink to satellite upon landing to report maintenance status to Boeing and THEY DID, which proves this plane landed safely, AND,

ANYWHERE this plane landed, the cell phones could have connected, there are no major runways far enough away from cell towers to prevent this from happening. So the NSA knows where they are, WHY THE SILENCE.

So what is now being peddled as the “most plausible report out there” is either misguided or a lie, and Boeing themselves gave the CHECK MATE.



From http://www.jimstonefreelance.com



There are numerous alternative theories now, all being pushed by either mainstream media or “mainstream alternative media” and all have major problems. Diego Garcia remains by far the most highly probable location for flight 370. There are three big reasons why flight 370 most likely ended up there, and a few smaller ones



The first big reason is because the Malaysian military plotted flight 370 on radar as it turned around and flew for a full hour in the direction of Diego Garcia until it disappeared from their military radars far sooner than it should have absent jamming. All the terrain mapping and flying at 5,000 feet stories are bold faced lies, the last radar blip from this plane happened at 29,500 feet and at that altitude it disappeared from military radars after previously vanishing from civilian radars at 36,000 feet. The terrain mapping stories which are being hatched by either think tanks, liars with a motive or total idiots do not hold water. If this plane was vanished while at altitude there is absolutely nothing to support the low altitude radar evasion stories other than fantasies of having Iran be blamed for what was obviously done by the U.S. air force. This plane not only vanished while in clear sight of civilian radars, it vanished a second time while in full sight of military radars, the plane remained within range of military radars for at least a full 300 miles after it vanished from them, simply calculating the curvature of the earth proves it and only a phase cancelling electronic warfare platform could have done that.

The second big reason for Diego Garcia to be the destination is the simple fact that it is out in the middle of nowhere and therefore taking the risk of spoofing other nation’s radars would not be necessary after vanishing from Malaysia. Diego Garcia is so isolated that it would be the equivalent of running into a 5,000 acre corn field to play hide and seek. If you have ever been into even a small corn field, you know what I mean by this. Diego Garcia is so prime for a plane kidnapping that if this obviously kidnapped plane was flown anywhere else, the people in charge of that mission should be court martialed.

The third big reason to take this plane to Diego Garcia is because there is a huge U.S. military base there and the Chinese military engineers could be quickly debriefed and re-flown out. Neither they or this 777 are likely to be there now, though some of the other passengers were probably drugged and will be forced to work KP for the rest of their lives in their now permanent new tropical paradise with only concrete visible home. Imagine what they would have to say on liberation day if Russia takes the place without killing them as collateral damage. Then again, they may not be there because any old abandoned mall or grain elevator will make a great CIA prison.

Smaller reasons to point the finger at Diego Garcia is the fact that as far as the MSM goes, the place is not on the map. Cute. Small world, eh?

The obviously faked “Iranian hijacker” photos also do not bode well for alternative explanations, And probably more importantly, the fact that the Malaysian military backed down (WHY??) on saying they tracked it West, only to once again later say they did, only to have this get followed up by more B.S. about a Malaysian airline hijacking plot compliments of the Banker whipping post of Islam all the while the obvious is ignored – HOW DID IT VANISH FROM ALL ACTIVE RADARS THAT NEED NO TRANSPONDER TO SEE PLANES WHILE THE MISSING PLANE WAS AT OR NEAR FULL CRUISING ALTITUDE, why is the MSM avoiding the key question like the plague?

ANSWER: Because only one nation on earth has both the technology to remote hijack and vanish a plane from radar, and only ONE NATION on earth also has the ability to keep the NSA’s mouth shut about where all the passenger’s cell phones popped up.


When all the cards are on the table, there are only two that tell the story, the fact that the plane completely vanished from the radio spectrum while at altitude, and the fact that the NSA totally shut up about where the passenger cell phones, no doubt at least 200 of them, went.

So while you peruse all the alternative theories being hatched by think tanks and their counterparts the liars and idiots, and all the other meanderings posted by the ziopress which SO BADLY wants war with Iran, never forget those two cold hard facts that are set in stone, THEY SAY IT ALL.
The following are the most common bogus “theories” surrounding the dissapearance of flight 370, followed by what is obviously the real answer

1. Flight 370 was shot down an hour after it took off by the U.S. navy. This is proven false by the fact that the plane’s engines remained logged in to a maintenance monitoring program via satellite uplink for five full hours afterward, and this alone trashes theory 1. Anyone following the story about the guy on the oil rig who claims he saw it go down is out of the loop, that one is completely spurious.



2. A couple of Iranians OR the pilots OR other passengers on the plane switched off the transonder and flew it to wherever – This is proven false by the fact that the plane vanished from active radars and never showed up on radar anywhere again despite having flown through at least one and probably many nation’s radars, AND proven by the fact that the plane eventually landed where cell phones could connect and be subsequently rung. IF the plane went to ANYWHERE a cell phone could connect, it flew through active radar to get there, END OF DISCUSSION.

B4INREMOTE-aHR0cDovLzQuYnAuYmxvZ3Nwb3QuY29tLy1LZmMyOTZWYnF5RS9VSFJtSzVreVl6SS9BQUFBQUFBQUFwby9oeGEwMnhPcXZHZy9zMTYwMC9taWxpdGFyeStiYXNlLmpwZw==3. The plane kept flying EAST and landed at a secret base in Viet Nam, somwhere in the Phillipines. This is easily proven false by the Malaysian’s own military tracking it turning West. I agree that the most probable initial destination for flight 370 was Diego Garcia. But it’s repainted now and is probably sitting out in the Mojave desert to be used in a future “terror attack”. Anyone in Mojave or Barstow? Heck, EVEN L.A.? Go look for it at that mothballed jet parking lot near the wind farm that is in the city of Mojave. A 777 should not be there.

4. The plane got hit by a missile, the pilots sent a distress call from a shattered cockpit that got picked up by Singapore, and the plane crashed in the ocean – This is easily proven false by the fact that the 777 is a full fly by wire aircraft which turned around and flew a direction opposite it’s originally programmed autopilot route, which would not have happened if the cockpit got blown open. That would have disabled the pilots, and the autopilot would not have turned the plane around by itself, it would have simply dead flown the plane to China and automatically landed it. All modern jumbo jets have fully automated take off, fly to destination and land without pilot intervention, but pilots will sometimes opt to land a plane manually to keep in practice. Autopilot alone makes theory 4 improbable and makes electronic hijacking very probable.

5. Almost too ridiculous to mention – Freescale employees cloaked the aircraft and stole it, and / or aliens took it. That theory was good for a joke about how an AWACS antenna looks.

Theory 6 – Awacs type planes can’t jam radar or transponders, and once you switch a transponder off, an airplane vanishes from radar FOREVER. This one really pisses me off, and preys on the most stupid people out there who have absolutely zero understanding of the technical side of how things actually work. Do I really need to discuss this? Perhaps on two points. The first, which I have been shilled the most over is the transponder. TRUE, many planes have them. FALSE – ALL PLANES HAVE THEM. FACT: If you took every aircraft flying every jungle every corn field or every weed patch in every place on earth and mixed them in with commercial and/or high class airplanes, the majority of what is out there, the average, would NOT have a transponder. THIS IS MY POINT, ACTIVE RADAR IS TO ALERT LARGER PLANES THAT HILLBILLY CROP DUSTING JOE IS THERE. And active radar works. AND when flight 370 disappeared, it was STILL on AND VANISHED FROM active radar. THAT would NOT be possible absent jamming.

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Tue 03/18/14 03:55 PM
I'm a little worried that it may be geeting loaded with some dangerous chemicals for a terrorist attack.