Topic: Why Divorce is so common in west
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Wed 01/29/14 06:55 AM
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Wed 01/29/14 06:57 AM
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Wed 01/29/14 07:01 AM

Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:03 AM

Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

I'll answer your question with a question.
why is rape so common in India?

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Wed 01/29/14 07:16 AM


Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.



But you have got ur facts all wrong."we are free in west to do as we please" so what do you suggest "others are slave " everyone over here is also free to do as as he please till it is under law.
Have you gone through whole thread ?I have repeatedly mention that divorce do happen in india but one should only opt for it when it is not possible to live together but in majority of cases people do have happy married life hence less divorce not that they want to but law does not permit.
I could say more but then it would sound like lecture which i do not want.

"AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT INDIA VS WEST "Just was curious to know the reason coz to live a happily married life with a same partner does not seem so difficult when you see here +it is not that those who remain married to the same person are unhappy or are doing not out of love but their compulsion.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:21 AM



Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.



But you have got ur facts all wrong."we are free in west to do as we please" so what do you suggest "others are slave " everyone over here is also free to do as as he please till it is under law.
Have you gone through whole thread ?I have repeatedly mention that divorce do happen in india but one should only opt for it when it is not possible to live together but in majority of cases people do have happy married life hence less divorce not that they want to but law does not permit.
I could say more but then it would sound like lecture which i do not want.

"AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT INDIA VS WEST "Just was curious to know the reason coz to live a happily married life with a same partner does not seem so difficult when you see here +it is not that those who remain married to the same person are unhappy or are doing not out of love but their compulsion.

So these happy marriages you speak about, how many are arranged, and are they really happy or is it because they don't want to bring shame on their familys that they decide to stay together regardless.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:25 AM


Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

I'll answer your question with a question.
why is rape so common in India?


offtopic

but still you have got ur facts all wrong no problem mamwaving i would correct it for you

Australia, Botswana and Lesotho had the highest average per capita of reported rape from 2004 to 2010.

US Justice Department estimates 300,000 American women are raped every year, and the Centers for Disease Control puts the number much higher at 1.3 million.

When looking at reported rape cases per capita, Australia, Botswana and Lesotho rank highest. But tallying sheer totals, Europe and the Americas consistently top the charts.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/us/politics/obama-to-create-task-force-on-campus-sexual-assaults.html?_r=0&referrer

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23...?_r=0&referrer

In America One in five students has been assaulted, it said, but just 12 percent of them report the violence.


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Wed 01/29/14 07:27 AM




Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.



But you have got ur facts all wrong."we are free in west to do as we please" so what do you suggest "others are slave " everyone over here is also free to do as as he please till it is under law.
Have you gone through whole thread ?I have repeatedly mention that divorce do happen in india but one should only opt for it when it is not possible to live together but in majority of cases people do have happy married life hence less divorce not that they want to but law does not permit.
I could say more but then it would sound like lecture which i do not want.

"AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT INDIA VS WEST "Just was curious to know the reason coz to live a happily married life with a same partner does not seem so difficult when you see here +it is not that those who remain married to the same person are unhappy or are doing not out of love but their compulsion.

So these happy marriages you speak about, how many are arranged, and are they really happy or is it because they don't want to bring shame on their familys that they decide to stay together regardless.


one of my good friends is from India and in an arranged marriage and absolutely hates it. But he won't divorce till his parents are gone, even tho he never sleeps there with her. He also takes very good care of his daughter as well.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:31 AM



Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

I'll answer your question with a question.
why is rape so common in India?


offtopic

but still you have got ur facts all wrong no problem mamwaving i would correct it for you

Australia, Botswana and Lesotho had the highest average per capita of reported rape from 2004 to 2010.

US Justice Department estimates 300,000 American women are raped every year, and the Centers for Disease Control puts the number much higher at 1.3 million.

When looking at reported rape cases per capita, Australia, Botswana and Lesotho rank highest. But tallying sheer totals, Europe and the Americas consistently top the charts.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/us/politics/obama-to-create-task-force-on-campus-sexual-assaults.html?_r=0&referrer

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23...?_r=0&referrer

In America One in five students has been assaulted, it said, but just 12 percent of them report the violence.



I'll repeat the question
Why is rape so common in India?
I never asked about other country's. I asked about your country.
You asked a rather insulting question about the west (which includes my beautiful country the UK)
So now I'm asking a question about your country. As you can probably guess I was a little offended by your question about the west and divorce.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:33 AM




Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.



But you have got ur facts all wrong."we are free in west to do as we please" so what do you suggest "others are slave " everyone over here is also free to do as as he please till it is under law.
Have you gone through whole thread ?I have repeatedly mention that divorce do happen in india but one should only opt for it when it is not possible to live together but in majority of cases people do have happy married life hence less divorce not that they want to but law does not permit.
I could say more but then it would sound like lecture which i do not want.

"AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT INDIA VS WEST "Just was curious to know the reason coz to live a happily married life with a same partner does not seem so difficult when you see here +it is not that those who remain married to the same person are unhappy or are doing not out of love but their compulsion.

So these happy marriages you speak about, how many are arranged, and are they really happy or is it because they don't want to bring shame on their familys that they decide to stay together regardless.



Most of them are arranged but by arranged it does not mean that you have to marry the one ur parents told you to.People first meet if they want to after seeing the photos then if chemistry match they talk for sometime{sought of date}only after that if they want to they marry so even after being arranged it's ur own personal choice and if you want to marry someone you love you can .(love *** arrange marrige}

To give you an example my parents had an arrange marriage and the mutual love admiration and care they share with each other is tremendous so stop pretending that who don't get divorced justdon't coz they are unable to or are afraid.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:36 AM





Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.



But you have got ur facts all wrong."we are free in west to do as we please" so what do you suggest "others are slave " everyone over here is also free to do as as he please till it is under law.
Have you gone through whole thread ?I have repeatedly mention that divorce do happen in india but one should only opt for it when it is not possible to live together but in majority of cases people do have happy married life hence less divorce not that they want to but law does not permit.
I could say more but then it would sound like lecture which i do not want.

"AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT INDIA VS WEST "Just was curious to know the reason coz to live a happily married life with a same partner does not seem so difficult when you see here +it is not that those who remain married to the same person are unhappy or are doing not out of love but their compulsion.

So these happy marriages you speak about, how many are arranged, and are they really happy or is it because they don't want to bring shame on their familys that they decide to stay together regardless.


one of my good friends is from India and in an arranged marriage and absolutely hates it. But he won't divorce till his parents are gone, even tho he never sleeps there with her. He also takes very good care of his daughter as well.


Exception are always there if ur friend wish he can take a divorce but since he does not want to hurt his parents he is not .
It's his own personal choice nobody is stopping him from getting divorced.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:39 AM





Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

We are free in the West to do as we please, that's why.
The divorce rate isn't high at all and even if it were at least we have the freedom to divorce and lead a happy life rather than being dictaed too by leaders who shag anything that moves behind closed doors.
You need to get your facts right.



But you have got ur facts all wrong."we are free in west to do as we please" so what do you suggest "others are slave " everyone over here is also free to do as as he please till it is under law.
Have you gone through whole thread ?I have repeatedly mention that divorce do happen in india but one should only opt for it when it is not possible to live together but in majority of cases people do have happy married life hence less divorce not that they want to but law does not permit.
I could say more but then it would sound like lecture which i do not want.

"AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT INDIA VS WEST "Just was curious to know the reason coz to live a happily married life with a same partner does not seem so difficult when you see here +it is not that those who remain married to the same person are unhappy or are doing not out of love but their compulsion.

So these happy marriages you speak about, how many are arranged, and are they really happy or is it because they don't want to bring shame on their familys that they decide to stay together regardless.



Most of them are arranged but by arranged it does not mean that you have to marry the one ur parents told you to.People first meet if they want to after seeing the photos then if chemistry match they talk for sometime{sought of date}only after that if they want to they marry so even after being arranged it's ur own personal choice and if you want to marry someone you love you can .(love *** arrange marrige}

To give you an example my parents had an arrange marriage and the mutual love admiration and care they share with each other is tremendous so stop pretending that who don't get divorced justdon't coz they are unable to or are afraid.

i'm not pretending anything. i asked you a question.
I think we should just leave it there as we have both made our point.
Life's too short to fall out with you so i hope you have a nice day and good luck with your search. Our little debate has been very interesting so thank you.

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Wed 01/29/14 07:40 AM




Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

I'll answer your question with a question.
why is rape so common in India?




offtopic

but still you have got ur facts all wrong no problem mamwaving i would correct it for you

Australia, Botswana and Lesotho had the highest average per capita of reported rape from 2004 to 2010.

US Justice Department estimates 300,000 American women are raped every year, and the Centers for Disease Control puts the number much higher at 1.3 million.

When looking at reported rape cases per capita, Australia, Botswana and Lesotho rank highest. But tallying sheer totals, Europe and the Americas consistently top the charts.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/us/politics/obama-to-create-task-force-on-campus-sexual-assaults.html?_r=0&referrer

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23...?_r=0&referrer

In America One in five students has been assaulted, it said, but just 12 percent of them report the violence.



I'll repeat the question
Why is rape so common in India?
I never asked about other country's. I asked about your country.
You asked a rather insulting question about the west (which includes my beautiful country the UK)
So now I'm asking a question about your country. As you can probably guess I was a little offended by your question about the west and divorce.



You did not get the spirit of the question that's why u were offended as it was not meant to be so but still i APOLOGIZE to you if it had hurt your sentiments.

Second rape do happen in india and it's not good many reason are responsible for it but then it would be a long debate .

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Wed 01/29/14 07:44 AM





Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

I'll answer your question with a question.
why is rape so common in India?




offtopic

but still you have got ur facts all wrong no problem mamwaving i would correct it for you

Australia, Botswana and Lesotho had the highest average per capita of reported rape from 2004 to 2010.

US Justice Department estimates 300,000 American women are raped every year, and the Centers for Disease Control puts the number much higher at 1.3 million.

When looking at reported rape cases per capita, Australia, Botswana and Lesotho rank highest. But tallying sheer totals, Europe and the Americas consistently top the charts.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/us/politics/obama-to-create-task-force-on-campus-sexual-assaults.html?_r=0&referrer

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23...?_r=0&referrer

In America One in five students has been assaulted, it said, but just 12 percent of them report the violence.



I'll repeat the question
Why is rape so common in India?
I never asked about other country's. I asked about your country.
You asked a rather insulting question about the west (which includes my beautiful country the UK)
So now I'm asking a question about your country. As you can probably guess I was a little offended by your question about the west and divorce.



You did not get the spirit of the question that's why u were offended as it was not meant to be so but still i APOLOGIZE to you if it had hurt your sentiments.

Second rape do happen in india and it's not good many reason are responsible for it but then it would be a long debate .

Ok, maybe I over reacted a little so i'm sorry too. As per my last answer, hope you have a wonderful day, and hey, life would be boring if every country was the same. Good luck and take care my friend x

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Wed 01/29/14 07:58 AM






Hi in this forum most of the time i see western women are divorced and that to at pretty young age {nothing wrong if they want too} but i want to know why is this so common ?In my country India DIVORCE are rare when i see my parents both in love mutual admiration and respect i often wonder that it's not so hard to be married .

Is it really very common in west to get divorced or it just some individuals .

coz in our country once married u r expected to be pillar to each other till the end come.

I'll answer your question with a question.
why is rape so common in India?




offtopic

but still you have got ur facts all wrong no problem mamwaving i would correct it for you

Australia, Botswana and Lesotho had the highest average per capita of reported rape from 2004 to 2010.

US Justice Department estimates 300,000 American women are raped every year, and the Centers for Disease Control puts the number much higher at 1.3 million.

When looking at reported rape cases per capita, Australia, Botswana and Lesotho rank highest. But tallying sheer totals, Europe and the Americas consistently top the charts.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/us/politics/obama-to-create-task-force-on-campus-sexual-assaults.html?_r=0&referrer

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/23...?_r=0&referrer

In America One in five students has been assaulted, it said, but just 12 percent of them report the violence.



I'll repeat the question
Why is rape so common in India?
I never asked about other country's. I asked about your country.
You asked a rather insulting question about the west (which includes my beautiful country the UK)
So now I'm asking a question about your country. As you can probably guess I was a little offended by your question about the west and divorce.



You did not get the spirit of the question that's why u were offended as it was not meant to be so but still i APOLOGIZE to you if it had hurt your sentiments.

Second rape do happen in india and it's not good many reason are responsible for it but then it would be a long debate .

Ok, maybe I over reacted a little so i'm sorry too. As per my last answer, hope you have a wonderful day, and hey, life would be boring if every country was the same. Good luck and take care my friend x


Every country has got it's own positive and it's own negative side no country is flawless.And i agree we should enjoy the diversity in culture as it is the culture which define a country without their culture they would be a piece of land and boring as you have said.

Once again i respect every country and do not wish to be little any

You too have a great day great life u were feisty good quality and one which i admireflowers flowers flowers

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Wed 01/29/14 09:17 AM
You hear about stories on the news here about families doing terrible things to women that are in those aranged marriages. They may not all be forced and I'm sure that some aranged marriages are as you say but it's just disingenuous to claim that all of them are free to marry or divorce as they please. In some cases women are even murdered by their own familys because they "bring shame" on them.

Also, there's just more freedom for women to do what they want in western countries because of financial oppression in places like India where women are more dependant on men.

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Wed 01/29/14 10:51 AM
So true. I want to copy and past what you typed on my pc homepage.

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Wed 01/29/14 11:32 AM

You hear about stories on the news here about families doing terrible things to women that are in those aranged marriages. They may not all be forced and I'm sure that some aranged marriages are as you say but it's just disingenuous to claim that all of them are free to marry or divorce as they please. In some cases women are even murdered by their own familys because they "bring shame" on them.

Also, there's just more freedom for women to do what they want in western countries because of financial oppression in places like India where women are more dependant on men.


offtopic

But still what you speak does happen but not so much the main reason behind it is dowry demand.But now days laws are very strict here and many a times are misused by women any way if such terrible things are done to women then she should first get all those people behind bar and second divorce nobody is stopping her.

Regarding financial oppression times have changed today almost all women are working even my mom works and get a very large sum of salary almost equal to my dad.

Those stories which you see on tv might be real but not so common hell domestic viloence happens everywhere it's just media which spice it up for trp.

In the state i live in there are almost 11 million people but i think there had been anywhere around 8 to 10 rape since the last 20-25 years but still they portray india as a place of rape.

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Wed 01/29/14 11:33 AM

My parents are still married and in love. I kind of think that people here in the US are spoiled and they don't care enough about trying to make things work. So when things get rocky they split. We live in a time when people expect instant gratification. Plus I think some people simply get married to early in life. They are pressured into it by family and friends or religious leaders. They're not ready at all to start a family when they get married. Meaning they don't really have a job or stability. So that adds more stress into their lives. Raising kids is hard enough. Trying to do it when you work at a crappy job and can't support your spouse is hard enough. Add kids to the mix and it's just going to get worse.


He is up to the point and has pretty much said all so go through it.

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Wed 01/29/14 12:21 PM
really pal..
in a country where marriage =
:-charging a hefty sale price of groom in name of dowry
:-almost racial treatment to the bride in a large number of cases
:- forcing the wife to forget about her career and think only about kids , cleaning and house work,
:- attaching a taboo, stigma and a zillion more obstacles overthe women's desire to seperate from clutches of a barbaric husband
:- making woman accept her pain,trauma and all hell broken upon her a god's will, destiny and some other ********..
DO YOU REALLY THINK WE CAN CALL INDIAN MARRIAGES AS A DECISION TO BE TOGETHER TIL THE VERY END.