Topic: Two complete separate reactions.
PacificStar48's photo
Tue 12/17/13 12:05 PM
Saying I am more physically attracted to one skin tone over another does not say that other skin tones are unattractive to all or is necesarrily wrong it is just my preference. Some of that is skin tone, some of it is features, and size, and someone mention gait something I notice as over all body language.

Someone hits my markers for what I prefer they are going to have and easier time of interaction with me. Definitly going to have and easier time generating sexual attraction.

My preferences are definitely not carved in stone and can and are often swayed by the persons character that trumps all.

I definitely understand the sting of not being physically attractive to someone because I might have certain genetic markers related to race. Believe me where I was raised there were people who thought being even part Native American made you a sub-species and the minute they found out, even if they could not tell prior, you were expelled. For years it was illegal for me to even live within city limits under Jim Crow laws. Yes I often pass for white but have always considered myself a woman of color because the power of the dominate race (then white)
considered a drop as good as the whole deal.

Something I later experienced in raising my sons who are often accepted or rejected by being able to prove their "blood lines" into organizations and or scholarship funding and other such minority reserves. Even recently I had someone ask for my BIA papers documents which at one time would have precluded many things but now are the major hinge for federal privileges and tax exemptions or tribal status. So if your Grandparents were not rounded up and issued basically a POW ID you have whatever race the hospital, church, school, DMV, or draft board assigned to you or this is really significant the court assigns to you when you become a state ward and are adopted. many times there the truth is overridden.

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Tue 12/17/13 12:10 PM
I've been avoiding posting here, because topics like this really annoy me, but I can't help myself, so I'm posting anyway. I'm with TeeBee, what is the point of this thread? To make it known that you don't like black women? Did someone assume you did? I'm a black woman and I'd never assume a white guy liked a black woman, even if he said he did, I wouldn't believe him. Based on history and all that good stuff. I've never personally known a white guy who treated a black woman with anything resembling respect. (For those who have, good on you, I can only speak for myself)

The only point I see in you making this thread is to insult black women. Why? I don't know. Unless you're constantly inundated with black women approaching you sexually (which I seriously doubt) I don't see why you would post this. I used to get emails from Indians and Nigerians on the regular until I changed my filters, I'm not attracted to them either, but I would never make a post attempting to shame them. That is plain rude and unnecessary. You prefer blondes over brunettes and you don't see the difference in not liking black women? You're saying you prefer one type of white woman over another, that has nothing to do with race, since you're white.

If you don't see the difference is discussing the merits of one woman over the other and then trying to compare that over not liking anything about black women, you need to educate yourself. That is a racist statement. That is an unnecessary statement. I wonder what would happen if I made a thread extolling the virtues of light skinned black men over dark skinned black men and then said, "but to me, all white men are ugly." Pretty sure I'd be in hot water for that.

Whether or not you like the term or not, you're a racist, not because of how you feel, but because you felt the need to voice it. Racists attempt to hurt and shame people, tolerant people keep those opinions to themselves. I can see if a black woman approached you sexually and you told her you're not attracted to black women, in that case, it would be her fault for bothering you at all, but in this case, this is entirely unwarranted and more than a little sad. Do you feel better for having posted this? I hope so, if nothing else, it reveals your character.

That is all.

teebee79's photo
Tue 12/17/13 12:13 PM

I've been avoiding posting here, because topics like this really annoy me, but I can't help myself, so I'm posting anyway. I'm with TeeBee, what is the point of this thread? To make it known that you don't like black women? Did someone assume you did? I'm a black woman and I'd never assume a white guy liked a black woman, even if he said he did, I wouldn't believe him. Based on history and all that good stuff. I've never personally known a white guy who treated a black woman with anything resembling respect. (For those who have, good on you, I can only speak for myself)

The only point I see in you making this thread is to insult black women. Why? I don't know. Unless you're constantly inundated with black women approaching you sexually (which I seriously doubt) I don't see why you would post this. I used to get emails from Indians and Nigerians on the regular until I changed my filters, I'm not attracted to them either, but I would never make a post attempting to shame them. That is plain rude and unnecessary. You prefer blondes over brunettes and you don't see the difference in not liking black women? You're saying you prefer one type of white woman over another, that has nothing to do with race, since you're white.

If you don't see the difference is discussing the merits of one woman over the other and then trying to compare that over not liking anything about black women, you need to educate yourself. That is a racist statement. That is an unnecessary statement. I wonder what would happen if I made a thread extolling the virtues of light skinned black men over dark skinned black men and then said, "but to me, all white men are ugly." Pretty sure I'd be in hot water for that.

Whether or not you like the term or not, you're a racist, not because of how you feel, but because you felt the need to voice it. Racists attempt to hurt and shame people, tolerant people keep those opinions to themselves. I can see if a black woman approached you sexually and you told her you're not attracted to black women, in that case, it would be her fault for bothering you at all, but in this case, this is entirely unwarranted and more than a little sad. Do you feel better for having posted this? I hope so, if nothing else, it reveals your character.

That is all.


THIS (( ^))((^))

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Tue 12/17/13 12:14 PM


I've been avoiding posting here, because topics like this really annoy me, but I can't help myself, so I'm posting anyway. I'm with TeeBee, what is the point of this thread? To make it known that you don't like black women? Did someone assume you did? I'm a black woman and I'd never assume a white guy liked a black woman, even if he said he did, I wouldn't believe him. Based on history and all that good stuff. I've never personally known a white guy who treated a black woman with anything resembling respect. (For those who have, good on you, I can only speak for myself)

The only point I see in you making this thread is to insult black women. Why? I don't know. Unless you're constantly inundated with black women approaching you sexually (which I seriously doubt) I don't see why you would post this. I used to get emails from Indians and Nigerians on the regular until I changed my filters, I'm not attracted to them either, but I would never make a post attempting to shame them. That is plain rude and unnecessary. You prefer blondes over brunettes and you don't see the difference in not liking black women? You're saying you prefer one type of white woman over another, that has nothing to do with race, since you're white.

If you don't see the difference is discussing the merits of one woman over the other and then trying to compare that over not liking anything about black women, you need to educate yourself. That is a racist statement. That is an unnecessary statement. I wonder what would happen if I made a thread extolling the virtues of light skinned black men over dark skinned black men and then said, "but to me, all white men are ugly." Pretty sure I'd be in hot water for that.

Whether or not you like the term or not, you're a racist, not because of how you feel, but because you felt the need to voice it. Racists attempt to hurt and shame people, tolerant people keep those opinions to themselves. I can see if a black woman approached you sexually and you told her you're not attracted to black women, in that case, it would be her fault for bothering you at all, but in this case, this is entirely unwarranted and more than a little sad. Do you feel better for having posted this? I hope so, if nothing else, it reveals your character.

That is all.


THIS (( ^))((^))


flowers

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Tue 12/17/13 12:36 PM

I am wondering why the strong difference in reactions from the following two statements when I feel they are the same thing.


1.
I say to someone "I prefer brunettes, and there are very few blonde girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get is normally "Well I like blondes, but to each their own"

and the second one is

2. I say to someone "I prefer white girls, and that there are very few black girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get to the second one is that I'm a racist, white, skinhead, cracker, redneck with no class

They both are personal physical preferences why the completely different reactions?

They are both stating judging someone on the basis of a physical attribute, is it really necessary for the different reactions?


After reading both your statements.AND I READ THEM SLOW AND EVERYWORD...In Reality ..they are both your opinion..and you are allowed to have preferencesflowers drinker
JMO.

PacificStar48's photo
Tue 12/17/13 01:56 PM

There's nothing wrong with saying you like blondes or freckles or pouty lips and green eyes.love It's what you like.


The problem for me... is SAYING , White( Black, Asian, Latino) people are GENERALLY unattractive to me.

I would NEVER say this.

And come to think of it.... YEAH, you're a big RACIST if you say this.
Even if you felt it... WHY the urge to TELL someone?

Again, I like tall guys but I'd never tell a guy who's 5'0 ft tall.." Oh, you are Waaay too short for me" whoa
It's rude... he may like his height or feels comfortable in his skin and other's maybe fine with it.. who am I to make it an issue.


I am wondering why telling someone they are too tall or too short Too light or too dark) for me is something that I don't have a right to voice. Is one persons opinion of you defineing who you are? Would a person rather be lied to and made to feel it was something else? Or left to wonder if it was any of a million other reasons? I can deal with the truth but unspoken lies? How are you suppose to deal with that?

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Tue 12/17/13 02:18 PM
People are just too sensitive and have way too many hangups.

You cannot change their reactions so its best to not say anything at all if you do not want to hear it :smile:

ridewytepony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 02:21 PM

A person can change their hair... it's superficial.
A guy thinking a woman isn't " attractive " because of hair... is silly, but.. " Hey, it's whatever" change her hair and she's pretty??

Saying" A black girl is generally " NOT attractive" Is VERY racist!
Who can change their race to be, someone's " version" of attractive??

This is saying... There are features of African Americans I find unattractive.

I'm personally not attracted to short men... It does not mean that they are NOT attractive.



Thats right, its often not that you say it,
its,how you say it

no photo
Tue 12/17/13 02:42 PM
The same ones who say "its creepy" to go after someone just because you love their skin color , doesn't matter what color..black or white are the same ones who get offended when you say you are not attracted to a certain skin color.

You are entitled and have every right to your preference but it is still a touchy subject and you should know this.

teebee79's photo
Tue 12/17/13 02:43 PM
@ridewytepony I agree!

@Pacific... What purpose would that serve to tell someone...I'm not attracted to you because you're short... Fat...dark or light? It seems mean spirited to me. What ever the reason he or she doesn't like a person it's their own reason, why,put the negativity on someone and call it the truth? It's not truth it's that persons opinion... If I'm not attracted to a short, white,black guy. Why does he need to know? All he should focus on is "I'm not interested"

PacificStar48's photo
Tue 12/17/13 02:45 PM


A person can change their hair... it's superficial.
A guy thinking a woman isn't " attractive " because of hair... is silly, but.. " Hey, it's whatever" change her hair and she's pretty??

Saying" A black girl is generally " NOT attractive" Is VERY racist!
Who can change their race to be, someone's " version" of attractive??

This is saying... There are features of African Americans I find unattractive.

I'm personally not attracted to short men... It does not mean that they are NOT attractive.



Thats right, its often not that you say it,
its,how you say it


Definitely Agree with Pony on this. You can tell people you prefer something else and still leave them feeling you respect them and see them as valuable. Thank God we don't all like exactly the same thing. How aweful would that be?

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Tue 12/17/13 02:51 PM
Edited by cuddlebunny00 on Tue 12/17/13 02:56 PM
I know alot of women who def are NOT racist but are simply not attracted to black men at all..you cannot lump those two together and maybe that should be called judgemental?

The OP said he personally hasn't found any black women attractive to him..I think he said it with respect :smile:

teebee79's photo
Tue 12/17/13 02:56 PM

The same ones who say "its creepy" to go after someone just because you love their skin color , doesn't matter what color..black or white are the same ones who get offended when you say you are not attracted to a certain skin color.

You are entitled and have every right to your preference but it is still a touchy subject and you should know this.

We are all in agreement here.
To each his own preference...that's no ones business.
What's offensive...is saying a whole group of people are unattractive because it's not YOUR preference.
What did our mothers say...if you can't say anything nice dont say anything at all. It's true for adults too.

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Tue 12/17/13 02:59 PM


The same ones who say "its creepy" to go after someone just because you love their skin color , doesn't matter what color..black or white are the same ones who get offended when you say you are not attracted to a certain skin color.

You are entitled and have every right to your preference but it is still a touchy subject and you should know this.

We are all in agreement here.
To each his own preference...that's no ones business.
What's offensive...is saying a whole group of people are unattractive because it's not YOUR preference.
What did our mothers say...if you can't say anything nice dont say anything at all. It's true for adults too.


:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 03:46 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 12/17/13 03:47 PM

I know alot of women who def are NOT racist but are simply not attracted to black men at all..you cannot lump those two together and maybe that should be called judgemental?

The OP said he personally hasn't found any black women attractive to him..I think he said it with respect :smile:


that like saying they dont find white people intelligent,,,people have the right to judge that statement as racist in nature


I would suggest that person live a bit more before coming to such a broad judgment of a whole RACE of people (usually in the millions all with differing levels of intelligence and diverse physical attributes)

since 'white' and 'black' are not relevant to the traits that make someone intelligent, nor are they a specific descriptor of whats someones asthetic traits are,,,,,



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Tue 12/17/13 04:06 PM
Edited by cuddlebunny00 on Tue 12/17/13 04:09 PM
Its so sad that people have to dissect everything today. Seems that people cannot say anything anymore without it offending someone in some way. I guess this goes wayyyyyy back and its still a very sensitive issue.

I agree..today its best to not say anything at all


msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 04:07 PM
I still say what I Want,just with some consideration and integrity,, whenever possible





Dodo_David's photo
Tue 12/17/13 04:07 PM

I am wondering why the strong difference in reactions from the following two statements when I feel they are the same thing.


1.
I say to someone "I prefer brunettes, and there are very few blonde girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get is normally "Well I like blondes, but to each their own"

and the second one is

2. I say to someone "I prefer white girls, and that there are very few black girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get to the second one is that I'm a racist, white, skinhead, cracker, redneck with no class

They both are personal physical preferences why the completely different reactions?

They are both stating judging someone on the basis of a physical attribute, is it really necessary for the different reactions?


How about re-wording the second statement to make it more diplomatic.

Try saying the following: "I find that I am more sexually attractive to women who have light skin tones than to women who have dark skin tones."

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/17/13 04:09 PM


I am wondering why the strong difference in reactions from the following two statements when I feel they are the same thing.


1.
I say to someone "I prefer brunettes, and there are very few blonde girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get is normally "Well I like blondes, but to each their own"

and the second one is

2. I say to someone "I prefer white girls, and that there are very few black girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get to the second one is that I'm a racist, white, skinhead, cracker, redneck with no class

They both are personal physical preferences why the completely different reactions?

They are both stating judging someone on the basis of a physical attribute, is it really necessary for the different reactions?


How about re-wording the second statement to make it more diplomatic.

Try saying the following: "I find that I am more sexually attractive to women who have light skin tones than to women who have dark skin tones."


ahhh, dodo gets it,,,,!! skin color is a physical attribute,,,,some 'white people ' have darker skin than some 'black people'

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Tue 12/17/13 04:11 PM


I am wondering why the strong difference in reactions from the following two statements when I feel they are the same thing.


1.
I say to someone "I prefer brunettes, and there are very few blonde girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get is normally "Well I like blondes, but to each their own"

and the second one is

2. I say to someone "I prefer white girls, and that there are very few black girls I find attractive"

The reaction I get to the second one is that I'm a racist, white, skinhead, cracker, redneck with no class

They both are personal physical preferences why the completely different reactions?

They are both stating judging someone on the basis of a physical attribute, is it really necessary for the different reactions?


How about re-wording the second statement to make it more diplomatic.

Try saying the following: "I find that I am more sexually attractive to women who have light skin tones than to women who have dark skin tones."

Lol Yeah! Sure that will work :laughing: