Topic: Who or What is God?
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Tue 03/15/16 06:13 AM
God is revealed in human beings now he was revealed in Jesus now his spirit is within us

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Tue 03/15/16 09:10 AM

The proof of the creator is in the creation. The way the stars and planets move and the symbiotic relationship of everything down to the cell level is beyond any possibility of happening by accident.


Just because someone throws a grenade in a hole, doesn't make the explosion (big bang) a precise molecule by molecule detailed occurrence that was designed exactly to happen the way it has happened. Now lets go back to the grenade and who threw it? After watching and learning much about the big bang, even I am still not convinced by their conclusion but yet have several of my own and if it were a chemical or chain reaction of events that were caused by mere elements not liking one another then we still have no creator and if it is in fact a "grenade" explosion on a stupendous scale then although everything was created, it doesn't really have something you can say is its creator either, some divine being who has an end plan for everyone and everything. Sadly Accidental is looking the most likely reason and the cause or creator is something and not someone. They "reckon" that if the big bang had been a hairline too weak that it would have all collapsed in on itself and a hairline too much would have destroyed the balls of rock we live on. However with a word like reckon, tells me they don't actually know but since praying won't get you the answer, don your scientist coat and specs and get to work.

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Tue 03/15/16 09:24 AM
Edited by lu10nt on Tue 03/15/16 09:37 AM


Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.

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Tue 03/15/16 09:29 AM

God is revealed in human beings now he was revealed in Jesus now his spirit is within us


So when I dissect a human body, where do I find this spirit and where is this bit of god that is within us. I failed anatomy and physiology terribly because I kept pointing to the heart and calling it my soul and my brain I thought was god and Spirit I thought was in the Stomach after drinking 50 glasses of Vodka the night before. So after getting over those hurdles, I never recall where soul, spirit and god are within the human anatomy. He was revealed in Jesus which was revealed in a book written in 400AD (yes that's right 400 years AFTER he was "born") that is pretty well revealed to be full of fascinating stories but that's all they are, children's stories.

Are we evolving yet? I bagsey the Adamantium Claws

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Tue 03/15/16 09:33 AM
Edited by lu10nt on Tue 03/15/16 09:34 AM

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Tue 03/15/16 09:33 AM
Edited by lu10nt on Tue 03/15/16 09:34 AM

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Tue 03/15/16 07:46 PM



Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?

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Thu 03/17/16 07:24 AM




Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?

"Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."
also you should seek the intellegion of maga.....one slitly shaken of grassess.....then pffff......they're all turn to the stone............

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Fri 03/18/16 05:56 AM




Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?


Did you need read the bit about adaptations, since a specie has adapted to its change in environment or lifestyle it passes down its new traits or changes in DNA to its offspring Thus, Evolution, Thus Darwinism! One thing at a time or perhaps in some cases several things at a time but note they are usually relatively small changes that over the course of time it looks like it happened all at once.

Science isn't a religion because we do not require a creator as our reason for being here and thus do not waste our time praying to empty rooms. Science is about being able to establish whether something works or whether it doesn't but whether it is possible to work and playing the "chef" by experimenting with ingredients or elements or DNA or other parts of science and mixing them to create a new recipe and provide guidelines for other people to understand why the recipe makes the cake and not something else. Science is simply understanding the fundamentals and since we have done most of that we are not trying to find more things to find. When you've learned to bake all the cakes known to man you move on to cookies, pastry's and so on until we can't possibly learn anymore science but this day will likely never arrive.

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Fri 03/18/16 07:21 AM





Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?


Did you need read the bit about adaptations, since a specie has adapted to its change in environment or lifestyle it passes down its new traits or changes in DNA to its offspring Thus, Evolution, Thus Darwinism! One thing at a time or perhaps in some cases several things at a time but note they are usually relatively small changes that over the course of time it looks like it happened all at once.

Science isn't a religion because we do not require a creator as our reason for being here and thus do not waste our time praying to empty rooms. Science is about being able to establish whether something works or whether it doesn't but whether it is possible to work and playing the "chef" by experimenting with ingredients or elements or DNA or other parts of science and mixing them to create a new recipe and provide guidelines for other people to understand why the recipe makes the cake and not something else. Science is simply understanding the fundamentals and since we have done most of that we are not trying to find more things to find. When you've learned to bake all the cakes known to man you move on to cookies, pastry's and so on until we can't possibly learn anymore science but this day will likely never arrive.

1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3
some time people have to done things like this but some time it will be dead end. why? i'll give you two sample first the odin second the Utuban you should know them if you do learn about history but not the kindom of heaven hehehehe........ what catholist chasing is not the nature it self but humanity it self. then? some memmories recal about the game jerico now?

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Fri 03/18/16 09:40 AM




Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?
apparently you do not understand Darwin!
A Primer might help!

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Fri 03/18/16 09:42 AM




For the religious, the term "God" is a deity or supreme being who created the world and all of humankind. Also the "heavens and the earth" what ever that involves. (I am not sure how they imagine the entire universe of stars and planets and galaxies came into being or if the Bible mentions those.)

For Athiests, (or "brights" as some call themselves) most conclude that "God" does not exist and any idea of spirit, soul, supernatural phenomena, does not warrant any consideration. If there is no evidence, it is not to be considered true.

But what about the spiritual idea that we are all part of that intelligence? What about people who declare, as Jesus did, that "I and the father are one?"

What about the I AM? The realization that: "I am God"

**~Nisargadatta Maharaj says:

One has to understand that the search for reality, or God, or Guru and the search for the self are the same; when one is found, all are found. When 'I am' and 'God is' become in your mind indistinguishable, then something will happen and you will know without a trace of doubt that God is because you are, you are because God is. The two are one.

~Nisargadatta Maharaj

************************

Therefore:

To deny "God is" �� would be to deny "��I am."��



Thoughts?









I've decided to re-read your original post that started this thread which immediately led down to the inevitable path of god does exist, no he doesn't and so on.

This quote is quite true depending on interpretation. So combine I AM with GOD and to accept yourself that you yourself are god will achieve the closest outcome to reality that one can get. Let me explain. I AM is reference to me and this idea of GOD is reference to someone in charge thus I AM IN CHARGE and by summarizing it like that you will realize that in your life you are in charge, of your thoughts, your actions, your beliefs. You are in charge of you, you are your own god and you should believe in yourself. With your thoughts, knowledge and beliefs you can decide on how to act. Man is capable of the most wonderful and beautiful things and is also capable of the most dreadful horrors, what you choose to do with you life is your choice but remember that other peoples lives and choices are bound to be caught up with your own. Everyone's lives can subtly or drastically affect the lives of those around you. To being that person walking by on the pavement (insignificant) or being the culprit of a 26 car pile up on a motorway (pretty significant), how you affect other people will determine how they choose their Thoughts, Actions and Beliefs about you and the world.

Your thoughts, knowledge and beliefs can be molded from birth due to factors such as schooling and parents. One should be allowed to graze the lands and decide for themselves what their Beliefs are. I personally was Christened at a young age and attended schools who engaged in assembly where you soon learned the morning prayers. It wasn't until I myself around the age of 20 started to question what I had been taught before realizing how absurd some of it sounds. No one converted me into the dedicated Atheist of today other than me. I delved down the road of Noahs Ark. How could one build a ship to carry the weight of 2 of every animal on earth using only wood. How plausible is it, getting hold of 2 of every animal on earth. All Animal Zoos in the world haven't got 2 of every animal (combined) on display because its impossible and today we have helicopters, planes and boats to collect them and a zoo (on land) to store them all and we keep discovering more species of animal each year. There is over 35,000 species of Spider and your telling me that Noah got 2 of every one of them. Over a million different species in the world and he got 2 million animals on a boat. This was the starting point for me that made me pull everything else into question and it got pulled about piece by piece and the thing I hated most was all that time I spent learning about this crap and praying, I could have spent LEARNING about things that matter. For me growing up I was fascinated by world maps and the solar system and now I believe that the Earth and The Human Race are the two most important things but unfortunately The Human Race is still shackled with numerous balls and chains that slow or stop our progress and whilst doing so the Human Race is constantly adding to the pressure on Earths Shoulders, for it is currently our only home and like a virus to its host, we are killing our planet just to try and survive.




could 2 million animals be on a boat? Interesting so long ago a measurement was given for us today through science to ponder.

from the Smithsonian.



However, the Bible is clear on one thing: Noah got specific instructions for the ark’s dimensions (300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high) and material (“gopher wood”). Gopher wood may refer to pine, cedar, or cypress wood.


Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/could-noahs-ark-float-theory-yes-180950385/#HtUTMBU06Qi4c1Ut.99

“You don’t think of the Bible necessarily as a scientifically accurate source of information, so I guess we were quite surprised when we discovered it would work,” said Thomas Morris, one of the students who worked on the project, in a statement.

To float, a boat has to exert the same amount of force on the ocean as the weight of the water it displaces. This buoyancy force is essentially the biggest weight the ark could hold and not sink. To put it another way, an object with a density greater than water will sink. So if the Bible gives an approximate volume of the ark, and after factoring in the mass of the wood used to build it, one could figure out how much mass the system could take before it becomes more dense than water and sinks.

Now that we've defined the constraints on the system...what in the world is a cubit? Ancients defined a cubit as the distance from a person's elbow to tip of their middle finger. In modern units, this can typically range from 45.5 centimeters to 52.3 centimeters.

In their study, students decided on an average length for their calculations: 48.2 centimeters. This means that, by their approximations, the ark would have been 144.6 meters long, 24.1 meters wide, and 14.46 meters tall—the size of a very small cargo ship. They went with cypress wood, though pine and cedar wood have similar densities. Using the density of cypress, they calculated the weight of this hypothetical ark: 1,200,000 kilograms (by comparison the Titanic weighed about 53,000,000 kilograms). Based on the density of sea water, they figured out that an empty box-shaped ark would float with it's hull only dipping 0.34 meters into the water.

But what about an ark filled with human and animal cargo? Working backwards they assumed that the maximum weight would put the waterline right just below the top of the ark—if the ark is immersed beyond it's full height, water would spill into the vessel and the ark would capsize.

Forcing the bulk of the ark down into the water while still keeping it afloat would displace about 20 Olympic-sized swimming pools worth of sea water. Knowing the volume of displaced sea water, and knowing that an object in water displaces its own weight, they crunched the numbers and found the total mass needed to displace that water. They subtracted the mass of an empty ark and found that the ark could hold 50,540,000 kg. For some perspective: the average sheep is about 23.47 kilograms, so the biblical boat could have held about 2.15 million sheep.

Fitting two of each of all the world's animals in the ark is an entirely different matter, and scientists question how many species Noah would have needed to save to produce the modern populations of species that inhabit our planet today. Scientists have characterized about 1.7 million species to date, so the students argue that, if the average mass of species represented on the ark was the average mass of sheep, the ark would theoretically have been able to accommodate them all without capsizing.


Science can get things wrong but it is amazing the bible must be right by its standards always or it is a fairy tale. Noahs Ark seems to be something science would figure out now through engineering more than a man from antient times. I wonder or have you ever wondered How were the Pyramids built? Why do we find Pyramids all around the world? Science can not figure that one out either even with so much technology at hand






yep,each had about a Grand-Total of 9.5 mm/sq at its disposal!

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Fri 03/18/16 10:16 AM
...science has and will continue to prove and disprove many things...but science only exists because God created the brain...and not all brains think the same...nor do all brains learn and retain information the same...perhaps God wanted humans to solve some of the "miracles"...the story of Noah's ark has always had a fictional side...where did all the races of people come from?..who did they marry and reproduce children with..?...ect...as far as pyramids and other unexplained architect ...isn't it said that the Angels walked the earth first...?...pretty sure if they were here they just didn't fly around all the time..building blocks and marbles perhaps..?...anyhow...perhaps one day we will be gifted with knowing...until then..we as humans should just do the best we can to get past our differences and build a better future...whoops..my bad..almost forgot..our governments won't let us...lol..hope everyone has a beautiful day..!!flowerforyou

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Fri 03/18/16 07:36 PM
conculusion............I hate matrix.............

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Thu 03/24/16 05:26 PM
If religious people want to listen to the "knowledge" of one book from thousands of years ago against everything that we have learnt in the last year, 5 years, 10 years even 50 years then so be. Recorded history is quite a recent thing and that book isn't even recorded history. Just promise me one thing,

Pray for an end to all wars
Pray for an end to all poverty
Pray for an end to all diseases
Pray for the ability to inhabit other planets before our planet gets overcrowded
Pray for the ability to be immortal

Science could make all this happen eventually and potentially but if it all ends in the next few days then your Prayers will have been answered and you are right and I am wrong but until your Prayers have resolved any one of these issues, I will remain "ignorant" to the presence of God whom is obviously here its just that I haven't been granted the sight to see him. This is your cue to find some evidence he exists, perhaps something other than that age old book or just keep praying and hope you prove me wrong. I will tell you what, I will pray, TO GOD, for you religious people to prove me wrong, this is in your favour now massively. Can't wait for the wars to stop and poverty to cease and diseases to be wiped out and to be immortal. Can't wait to thank God in a few days when he does all this and can't wait to feel guilty for ever doubting him.

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Thu 03/24/16 11:08 PM





Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?
apparently you do not understand Darwin!
A Primer might help!


teach me

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Sat 03/26/16 04:14 AM







Quote from milesoftheusa "I do not need you to listen. we all have choices. Science is not bad. some of it is just purely man made."


Some perhaps, but most of it is thorough testing as to does 1 + 1 = 2 and if on any number of occasions it adds up to 3 then we need to analyses and see what went wrong with our predictions and calculations and test again and again until no matter how hard we try, 1 + 1 = 2. So when this comes down to the nitty gritty points about DNA and subtle differences, we start to learn something more intriguing about adaptations. Adaptations, in the long run are small gradual changes to select groups within a species that adapt and alter minor changes in their DNA to improve survival requirements. Inuits that live in sheer cold temperatures have adapted to survive in the cold conditions compared to others and notably, their DNA has altered to allow this change. Another is a tribe that spend about two thirds of their time in and underwater and through the course of time, unlike the majority of us they can see underwater crystal clear. With other tribes that consumed their dead ancestors became ravaged by Kuru Disease (A type of Brain Disease) but since they had been in the tradition of doing this ritual for so long many of the tribes survivors have since gained an immunity to Brain Disease. Everything can and will adapt to survive within such a small time frame to counter balance any changes in environment or lifestyle. The majority are likely to evolve subtle adaptations in response to our lifestyle changes of sitting around playing games or watching TV. None of these adaptations are Gods work it is simply more evidence in the evolution war chest. Scientists followed birth images of many mammals, including ourselves are noted how similar ALL mammals start out when being conceived. Us humans have gills present in our early stages but since we currently don't require these they are never developed and are in fact retracted during growth in the womb. If however like those who spend most of their time underwater adapted crystal clear vision, they could be more likely to adapt gills again to allow them to breathe more easily and mermen and mermaids could be a closer reality.

I don't need you or anyone to listen, but to open your eyes and perhaps your mind, sometimes the obvious is right in front of you.



Just prove Darwism? Duplicate it. Duplicate gills on a Human. More likely? Sounds like a lot of science ( We Believe it to be so) now is science not become a religion? Is that really science?
apparently you do not understand Darwin!
A Primer might help!


teach me


No point wasting time, effort and resources to teach what you don't want to learn because you will just drone on and on about points that have already been nipped in the bud!


Nipped?

nip something in the bud

Fig. to put an end to something before it develops into something larger. (Alludes to destroying a flower bud before it blooms.) I wanted to nip that little romance in the bud. The whole idea was nipped in the bud.

Thanks

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Sat 03/26/16 06:14 AM
Allah, has described Himself in the Holy Quran in 99 Names;
1. The All Merciful
2. The Most Merciful
3. The King, The Sovereign
4. The Most Holy
5. Peace and Blessing
6. The Guarantor
7. The Guardian, the Preserver
8. The Almighty, the Self Sufficient
9. The Powerful, the Irresistible
10. The Tremendous
11. The Creator
12. The Maker
13. The Fashioner of Forms
14. The Ever Forgiving
15. The All Compelling Subduer
16. The Bestower
17. The Ever Providing
18. The Opener, the Victory Giver
19. The All Knowing, the Omniscient
20. The Restrainer, the Straightener
21. The Expander, the Munificent
22. The Abaser
23. The Exalter
24. The Giver of Honor
25. The Giver of Dishonor
26. The All Hearing
27. The All Seeing
28. The Judge, the Arbitrator
29. The Utterly Just
30. The Subtly Kind
31. The All Aware
32. The Forbearing, the Indulgent
33. The Magnificent, the Infinite
34. The All Forgiving
35. The Grateful
36. The Sublimely Exalted
37. The Great
38. The Preserver
39. The Nourisher
40. The Reckoner
41. The Majestic
42. The Bountiful, the Generous
43. The Watchful
44. The Responsive, the Answerer
45. The Vast, the All Encompassing
46. The Wise
47. The Loving, the Kind One
48. The All Glorious
49. The Raiser of the Dead
50. The Witness
51. The Truth, the Real
52. The Trustee, the Dependable
53. The Strong
54. The Firm, the Steadfast
55. The Protecting Friend, Patron, and Helper
56. The All Praiseworthy
57. The Accounter, the Numberer of All
58. The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of all
59. The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
60. The Giver of Life
61. The Bringer of Death, the Destroyer
62. The Ever Living
63. The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
64. The Perceiver, the Finder, the Unfailing
65. The Illustrious, the Magnificent
66. The One, the All Inclusive, the Indivisible
67. The Unity, The indivisible
68. The Long, the Impregnable, the Everlasting
69. The All Able
70. The All Determiner, the Dominant
71. The Expediter, He who brings forward
72. The Delayer, He who puts far away
73. The First
74. The Last
75. The Manifest; the All Victorious
76. The Hidden; the All Encompassing
77. The Patron
78. The Self Exalted
79. The Most Kind and Righteous
80. The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting
81. The Avenger
82. The Pardoner, the Effacer of Sins
83. The Compassionate, the All Pitying
84. The Owner of All Sovereignty
85. The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
86. The Equitable, the Requiter
87. The Gatherer, the Unifier
88. The All Rich, the Independent
89. The Enricher, the Emancipator
90. The Withholder, the Shielder, the Defender
91. The Distresser
92. The Propitious, the Benefactor
93. The Light
94. The Guide
95. Incomparable, the Originator
96. The Ever Enduring and Immutable
97. The Heir, the Inheritor of All
98. The Guide, Infallible Teacher, and Knower
99. The Patient, the Timeless

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Sat 03/26/16 06:30 AM

Allah, has described Himself in the Holy Quran in 99 Names;
1. The All Merciful
2. The Most Merciful
3. The King, The Sovereign
4. The Most Holy
5. Peace and Blessing
6. The Guarantor
7. The Guardian, the Preserver
8. The Almighty, the Self Sufficient
9. The Powerful, the Irresistible
10. The Tremendous
11. The Creator
12. The Maker
13. The Fashioner of Forms
14. The Ever Forgiving
15. The All Compelling Subduer
16. The Bestower
17. The Ever Providing
18. The Opener, the Victory Giver
19. The All Knowing, the Omniscient
20. The Restrainer, the Straightener
21. The Expander, the Munificent
22. The Abaser
23. The Exalter
24. The Giver of Honor
25. The Giver of Dishonor
26. The All Hearing
27. The All Seeing
28. The Judge, the Arbitrator
29. The Utterly Just
30. The Subtly Kind
31. The All Aware
32. The Forbearing, the Indulgent
33. The Magnificent, the Infinite
34. The All Forgiving
35. The Grateful
36. The Sublimely Exalted
37. The Great
38. The Preserver
39. The Nourisher
40. The Reckoner
41. The Majestic
42. The Bountiful, the Generous
43. The Watchful
44. The Responsive, the Answerer
45. The Vast, the All Encompassing
46. The Wise
47. The Loving, the Kind One
48. The All Glorious
49. The Raiser of the Dead
50. The Witness
51. The Truth, the Real
52. The Trustee, the Dependable
53. The Strong
54. The Firm, the Steadfast
55. The Protecting Friend, Patron, and Helper
56. The All Praiseworthy
57. The Accounter, the Numberer of All
58. The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of all
59. The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
60. The Giver of Life
61. The Bringer of Death, the Destroyer
62. The Ever Living
63. The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
64. The Perceiver, the Finder, the Unfailing
65. The Illustrious, the Magnificent
66. The One, the All Inclusive, the Indivisible
67. The Unity, The indivisible
68. The Long, the Impregnable, the Everlasting
69. The All Able
70. The All Determiner, the Dominant
71. The Expediter, He who brings forward
72. The Delayer, He who puts far away
73. The First
74. The Last
75. The Manifest; the All Victorious
76. The Hidden; the All Encompassing
77. The Patron
78. The Self Exalted
79. The Most Kind and Righteous
80. The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting
81. The Avenger
82. The Pardoner, the Effacer of Sins
83. The Compassionate, the All Pitying
84. The Owner of All Sovereignty
85. The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
86. The Equitable, the Requiter
87. The Gatherer, the Unifier
88. The All Rich, the Independent
89. The Enricher, the Emancipator
90. The Withholder, the Shielder, the Defender
91. The Distresser
92. The Propitious, the Benefactor
93. The Light
94. The Guide
95. Incomparable, the Originator
96. The Ever Enduring and Immutable
97. The Heir, the Inheritor of All
98. The Guide, Infallible Teacher, and Knower
99. The Patient, the Timeless


When I went to the ceremony, I couldn't hear anything Allah said, is it because I am not faithful enough or is it because I am not the chosen one?

I have described myself in my Holy Quran as Hermaeus Mora because I am the Daedric Prince of Fate, Knowledge and Memory and above all Mortals

LUNG1954's photo
Sat 03/26/16 10:21 AM
Edited by LUNG1954 on Sat 03/26/16 10:20 AM



When I went to the ceremony, I couldn't hear anything Allah said, is it because I am not faithful enough or is it because I am not the chosen one?


Because you are not a Prophet.