perhaps they are not the words nor meanings of god then.

proof of words of gods be that they must create what was said they would create.

if they don't, than this seems to be obvious reason to not believe them as words from gods.

peace

By the same token if those words from God create those who refuse to cause harm to others then it is cause for belief that those were indeed the words of God!

smiles...

it would seem if words said to be of god cause some not to harm others, than some of the words heard were from god...

but it did indeed say that words from god would have to be able to reproduce ALL to wish to harm no more, not just some...

and you just harmed me, with that exclamation point!

hehehe...

smiles

I would think it was the choice of the individuals hearing the words of God or not listening to them that is responsible for behavior not the words of God. Some people take those words to heart, others refuse and live their lives causing harm.

nothing can "refuse" words of gods or they be not words of god.

hehehe...

as if the words of gods would somehow be comparable in power to those of a humans...

words of god make one WANT to harm no more, by seeing how it's words and philosophies and theories said to be of god create many to be induced to wars and killing of others, based upon those "refusing" to hear "gods words"...

such was the whole mentality of the words of those creating the great inquisition.

words that claim to be of god, that CREATE SUCH, prove they are not words from true gods with true power of love...

of erasing wars...

of abolishing starvation...

of abolishing any sickness and disease...

of rendering the earth a violence free zone...

of creating equal wealth for all upon the face of the earth...

of quickening mortals to become immortals...

words of gods must create ALL THESE THINGS or they are false, and not of gods with any power to create such.

so not words i wish for.

truly the words taken of "gods" thus far are simply words most used to demand verdict and damnnation upon all others whom don't do as some people wish them to.

as one self in most cases.

but it cannot be missed that millions upon millions killed in religious wars did feel others deserved to be killed because they "refused" to heed words from god.

it seems obvious those were not words of god as some wished to prove to them self they were.

Yes the people refused to hear the words....exactly what I said previously!

yes Madam judge of the peoples.

hehehe...

as it was writ, as you have judged so shall you be judged.

good lucks with that.

peace

People's actions judge themselves ! Not I! Nor would I want to!

if one's words, proclaimed to be of gods, judge the peoples actions, as NOT OF GOD, than one self has judged the peoples making it self a judge.

and likewise declared it self the designated true speaker of the gods...

i wonder if god had any say in the matter...

hehehe...

but was it not writ, words of satan are those that accuse the saints...

was it not writ ALL mortals are the children of god...

it would seem here be the first moment many step away from any true gods words or words spoken by the parents of humanity...

was it not also writ ALL are CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD...

but some say MANY OTHERS ARE NOT...

that only them self are in the image of god...

and those like one self who agree many others are NOT OF GOD.

that don't quite match up to the ole magic book.

yes of course, equal child gods naturally have a god given aversion for words that come from others who say i am a child god, but you are not.

and demand and insist, please be as me!

for I AM TRULY OF GOD!

and ye are not!

hehehe...

yea...

yes, the sheep know the true voice and words of gods, and a stranger they will not follow,

so of course many a true beliebers will not heed such self piety, since they know where such words come from

the place that creates all hell on earth.

Okay, this will be my final post here. I respectfully agree to disagree with others and to respect their right to disagree with me. That is my opinion in this matter! It doesn't really matter what others choose to believe as everyone is able to choose for themselves and should have that right.

as you see fit Madam.

but does not what each choose to believe create what exists, that one self propagate and foment into existence by all it's own words...

no matter how many claim them self as "exclusive" god's child status, it seems very hard to see how such is not the same exact belief's that caused millions upon millions to be tortured and killed.

could such words be then of true divine definitions of the gods of love.

certainly seems never so.

either words create more hate by establishing some are of god, and others are not, creating more wars and brutality between humans...

or words create more love, establishing ALL are equally child gods, creating less war and brutality between humans...

it seems perfectly clear but one thing most, beliefs chosen simply tell whether a heart be a loving heart, or a hateful heart.

for does not a loving heart find loving beliefs, and a despising heart find despising beliefs.

just me 1 cent about it...

of course, only my own.

just as your beliefs are your own.

and i respect you having the right to all your own belief's...

and always enjoy your great insights and reasoning together what be and exist and create all.

good points you bring up.

smiles

No, just because someone believes it does not automatically "create" iit. Eg., Santa Claus "the fairy tail of the reindeers" and the Easter bunny. Just because one believes in those things does not automatically make it a true living being.



Please be specific of what "religion" you speak of when stating such things. Because Jesus always us "ALL" can be called children of God.

Galatians 3:26

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

And thus we are all equally children of God, as all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Not this person falls more short then the other, but point blank we ALL fall short.

if i tell people GOD SAYS YOUR A SINNER, SO YOUR NOT GOING TO HEAVEN...

this is how you must live your life!?

this HAS CREATED MUCH INTO EXISTENCE.

it has created a RIGHTFUL OPPOSITION AGAINST OTHERS DICTATING HOW ANOTHER EQUAL PERSON SHOULD LIVE.

and to try to MAKE LAWS TO ENFORCE SUCH OVER OTHERS...

are u serious...

this is taking AUTHORITY OVER OTHERS.

as if one self has transposed IT SELF AS "THE GODS"...

hehehe...

this DOES create hate, because EACH BE A SOVEREIGN BEING, TO DECIDE THEIR OWN ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.

and wars between PEOPLES, muslims and none muslim, christain and none christian, jews against none jews, have been raged to MAINTAIN THAT SOVEREIGN DIVINE RIGHT.

and what CREATED THESE WARS...

these definitions.

about "what" religion IN SPECIFIC???

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING RIGHT...

my words are not about ANY SPECIFIC RELIGION and about ALL RELIGIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

that is the whole point about them.

trying to use THIS BOOK, or any book of religion, to actually TAKE AUTHORITY OVER OTHER HUMANS LIVES.

is the point.

such is pure tyrannical satanism in it's rawest most brute beast form, per the book it self.

total anti-christ.

TOTALLY AGAINST WHAT JESUS STOOD FOR.

so against Christ.

for JESUS WHIPPED THE "RELIGIOUS", IN A "CHURCH", WHO WERE TRYING TO TELL "OTHERS" HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIVES TO BE CONSIDERED "HOLY"...

AND THAT THEY HAD TO "PAY" FOR FORGIVENESS "BY THE CHURCH".

and called THESE, a brood of vipers, of their "father the devil"...

for these there be no hope of life eternal while in human form, as these die and suffer per the book in the great tribulation, having committed the unpardonable sin...

of deeming them self worthy, and many and most of their OWN SIBLINGS, as not.

for that which declare IT SELF FIRST, shall be last.

so these must pass through the great tribulation...

to be washed of their self superiority, or FOR TRYING TO ESTABLISH THEM SELF AS A GOD...

the sin of Lucifer.

of making one self as equal to god.

to rule over others lives.

that which deemed it self, OF LIGHT.

and many others NOT.

the hell of these teachings of who be GREATER OR MORE WORTHY TO GOD, create a living hell or war called Armageddon...

and who creates such...

the "religious", who used such definitions TO TRY TO RULE OVER OTHERS.

and the book say's THESE will not ascend in any rapture.

so, yea, twisted contorted CONTROLLING versions said to be of god, CREATED A LOT.

even though many deny they created anything NOT GOOD.

for the book was simply a book of prophecy, of happenings, NOT COMMANDMENTS.

a magic book telling in advance ALL THAT WOULD OCCUR upon earth during one time cycle of six total times cycles six times six.

and the self declared "rulers" over others sure kept the books prophecies of "shitz for the world" happening right on course.

peace out

will respectfully await your post Mr Cowboy.

for what be truth, lest all have had say in the matter.

Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Qul Huw-Allahu Ahad
Allah-us-Samad
Lam yalid wl lam yulad
Wa lam yakul lahu kufuwan ahad

In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
Say! He is God, the One!
The Eternally Besought of all!
He does not beget, nor is He begotten.
And there is nothing comparable to Him

oh my....

please DON'T KILL THE INFIDELS!

calm.

calm create what calm sea's.

Does't work thatbway my friend. Doesn't matter what one we believes we know not who will or won't be in heaven. I'm currently on a cell so sorry can't copy/paste any verses. But God has told us judge not, for with what judgement we place on others will be measured back on us. That an actions speak louder then words. And that is why we are to love EVERYONE. Doesn't matter if they believe or not or if they sin differently then I. Everyone is just as equal as everyone. And besides that Jesus loves even the sinners. They/we are the reason Jesus gave himself over to death for then defeated death for us all.

and then ? behead someone ?

hahahhahah!!! Or suicide bomber?