Topic: A critique of atheism
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Wed 06/26/13 10:46 AM
Criticizing the actions of others, finding fault and pointing out the error of their ways, is not what I would call "tough love."

And anyway most people who rant and rave about how atheism is the cause of all the problems and immorality in the world are not "loving" anyone.



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Wed 06/26/13 11:31 AM

Criticizing the actions of others, finding fault and pointing out the error of their ways, is not what I would call "tough love."

And anyway most people who rant and rave about how atheism is the cause of all the problems and immorality in the world are not "loving" anyone.






basically. anyone blaming either religion or atheism for the worldliness of the world is dealing in partial truths,,,

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Wed 06/26/13 11:36 AM


Criticizing the actions of others, finding fault and pointing out the error of their ways, is not what I would call "tough love."

And anyway most people who rant and rave about how atheism is the cause of all the problems and immorality in the world are not "loving" anyone.






basically. anyone blaming either religion or atheism for the worldliness of the world is dealing in partial truths,,,



Well yes, but this thread is about atheism and the O.P. blames it for everything, suggesting that Christianity is the solution.


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Wed 06/26/13 12:19 PM



Criticizing the actions of others, finding fault and pointing out the error of their ways, is not what I would call "tough love."

And anyway most people who rant and rave about how atheism is the cause of all the problems and immorality in the world are not "loving" anyone.






basically. anyone blaming either religion or atheism for the worldliness of the world is dealing in partial truths,,,



Well yes, but this thread is about atheism and the O.P. blames it for everything, suggesting that Christianity is the solution.


problem is,that some "Christians" call everyone,not believing like them,an Atheist!

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Wed 06/26/13 12:56 PM




Criticizing the actions of others, finding fault and pointing out the error of their ways, is not what I would call "tough love."

And anyway most people who rant and rave about how atheism is the cause of all the problems and immorality in the world are not "loving" anyone.






basically. anyone blaming either religion or atheism for the worldliness of the world is dealing in partial truths,,,



Well yes, but this thread is about atheism and the O.P. blames it for everything, suggesting that Christianity is the solution.


problem is,that some "Christians" call everyone,not believing like them,an Atheist!


So true.

Christians think of me as either an atheist, or a devil worshiper, and scientific types call me "metaphysical" or "religious."


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Wed 06/26/13 02:07 PM
humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,



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Wed 06/26/13 06:04 PM

humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,






And you are a master at generalizing. (see above.)laugh

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Wed 06/26/13 06:06 PM


humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,






And you are a master at generalizing. (see above.)laugh


Christians think of me as either an atheist, or a devil worshiper, and scientific types call me "metaphysical" or "religious."




..I guess whats good for the goose,,,,,,

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Wed 06/26/13 06:48 PM



psychopath or sociopath,,psychopath or sociopath


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,






And you are a master at generalizing. (see above.)laugh


Christians think of me as either an atheist, or a devil worshiper, and scientific types call me "metaphysical" or "religious."




..I guess whats good for the goose,,,,,,



You think THAT is generalizing? I think that is very specific and it was in response a specific statement. You have taken it out of context.

Here is you generalizing:

"humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,

THAT is generalizing....,,,,,,,,,,,

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Wed 06/26/13 07:00 PM




psychopath or sociopath,,psychopath or sociopath


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,






And you are a master at generalizing. (see above.)laugh


Christians think of me as either an atheist, or a devil worshiper, and scientific types call me "metaphysical" or "religious."




..I guess whats good for the goose,,,,,,



You think THAT is generalizing? I think that is very specific and it was in response a specific statement. You have taken it out of context.

Here is you generalizing:

"humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,

THAT is generalizing....,,,,,,,,,,,




generalizing is making a statement about a whole group of people,,

however one wishes to justify it

both statements 'Christians think'

and
humans , at some point


are generalizations,,,

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Wed 06/26/13 07:13 PM
Would you like me to be more specific then? Would you like me to name names and denominations of Christians who have gotten the impression that I am atheist? Or would you like the usernames of people here on Mingle who in the science forum have called my beliefs metaphysics or religious crap?

I don't think that would be a good idea.

I think "Christians" and "scientific types" is specific enough, and all that was necessary.


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Wed 06/26/13 08:31 PM

Would you like me to be more specific then? Would you like me to name names and denominations of Christians who have gotten the impression that I am atheist? Or would you like the usernames of people here on Mingle who in the science forum have called my beliefs metaphysics or religious crap?

I don't think that would be a good idea.

I think "Christians" and "scientific types" is specific enough, and all that was necessary.




and I thought 'humans' was a likewise specific enough description,,,,without giving specific names or which humans,,,


no big deal,,,,,thats why Im not making an issue of 'generalizing'

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Wed 06/26/13 08:52 PM


Would you like me to be more specific then? Would you like me to name names and denominations of Christians who have gotten the impression that I am atheist? Or would you like the usernames of people here on Mingle who in the science forum have called my beliefs metaphysics or religious crap?

I don't think that would be a good idea.

I think "Christians" and "scientific types" is specific enough, and all that was necessary.




and I thought 'humans' was a likewise specific enough description,,,,without giving specific names or which humans,,,


no big deal,,,,,thats why Im not making an issue of 'generalizing'


YOU are the one who brought it up as if it were an issue in the first place msharmony.


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Wed 06/26/13 08:55 PM
ou two are giving me a headache, why not get back on topic

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Wed 06/26/13 08:58 PM

ou two are giving me a headache, why not get back on topic


Because when you give someone an inch they go on and on for miles....laugh

Okay msharmony you can have your inch. I quit.

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Wed 06/26/13 09:05 PM



Would you like me to be more specific then? Would you like me to name names and denominations of Christians who have gotten the impression that I am atheist? Or would you like the usernames of people here on Mingle who in the science forum have called my beliefs metaphysics or religious crap?

I don't think that would be a good idea.

I think "Christians" and "scientific types" is specific enough, and all that was necessary.




and I thought 'humans' was a likewise specific enough description,,,,without giving specific names or which humans,,,


no big deal,,,,,thats why Im not making an issue of 'generalizing'


YOU are the one who brought it up as if it were an issue in the first place msharmony.




not really, but ok,,,

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Wed 06/26/13 09:07 PM
Just agree to disagree; maybe you guys need to kiss and make-up, yeah long and slow LOL

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Wed 06/26/13 09:09 PM

Just agree to disagree; maybe you guys need to kiss and make-up, yeah long and slow LOL



lol,,,,ur a silly one,,,,

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Wed 06/26/13 09:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/26/13 09:18 PM




Would you like me to be more specific then? Would you like me to name names and denominations of Christians who have gotten the impression that I am atheist? Or would you like the usernames of people here on Mingle who in the science forum have called my beliefs metaphysics or religious crap?

I don't think that would be a good idea.

I think "Christians" and "scientific types" is specific enough, and all that was necessary.




and I thought 'humans' was a likewise specific enough description,,,,without giving specific names or which humans,,,


no big deal,,,,,thats why Im not making an issue of 'generalizing'


YOU are the one who brought it up as if it were an issue in the first place msharmony.




not really, but ok,,,


Oh geeeze.....yes you did. Do you want me to show you the post?frustrated

Here is is:
humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,


And this is your agenda:

First, your post was in reply to MINE which you quoted.
Then you threw in "ad hominem attaks and generalizing.." as a vague suggestion,

then you implied that this "distracts from actual "logic" of the conversation.

Your post is ambiguous, suggestive, generalizing, and implies something, and none of which has ANYTHING to do directly with responding to what I had posted.

You really do this kind of thing a lot, and it is suggestive and a bad attempt to put across an vague agenda or suggestion of some kind that can't really be pinned down but implies an attitude or accusation of some sort.

You really believe you are being sly and clever, and I am simply calling you on it.

... then you play innocent like you don't understand what I am talking about...




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Wed 06/26/13 09:18 PM





Would you like me to be more specific then? Would you like me to name names and denominations of Christians who have gotten the impression that I am atheist? Or would you like the usernames of people here on Mingle who in the science forum have called my beliefs metaphysics or religious crap?

I don't think that would be a good idea.

I think "Christians" and "scientific types" is specific enough, and all that was necessary.




and I thought 'humans' was a likewise specific enough description,,,,without giving specific names or which humans,,,


no big deal,,,,,thats why Im not making an issue of 'generalizing'


YOU are the one who brought it up as if it were an issue in the first place msharmony.




not really, but ok,,,


Oh geeeze.....yes you did. Do you want me to show you the post?frustrated

Here is is:
humans on all issues and in all threads result at some point to ad hominem attacks and generalizing,,,,


which often distracts from the actual 'logic' of the conversation,,,


And this is your agenda:

First, your post was in reply to MINE which you quoted.
Then you threw in "ad hominem attaks and generalizing.." as a vague suggestion,

then you implied that this "distracts from actual "logic" of the conversation.

You post is ambiguous, suggestive, generalizing, and implies something, and none of which has ANYTHING to do directly with responding to what I had posted.

You really do this kind of thing a lot, and it is suggestive and a bad attempt to put across an vague agenda or suggestion of some kind that can't really be pinned down but implies an attitude or accusation of some sort.

You really believe you are being sly and clever, and I am simply calling you on it.





and here I am thinking its just a case of 'I can do it to you but when you do it you are wrong',....

this is the post I responded to

So true.

Christians think of me as either an atheist, or a devil worshiper, and scientific types call me "metaphysical" or "religious."



I broadened that generalization to include HUMANS,, and suddenly it becomes a personal attack or 'generalizing'


it was never personal, I was attempting to respond to the posts as I read them and respond in kind to what was being posted,, which was generalizations of 'some' Christians and also 'christians'



,,,but as I said before, I really don't consider it a big deal,, to each their own