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Topic: Why do you think this would be true?
amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 12:24 AM
Research indicates that couples who have sexual intercourse before marriage have a higher divorce rate than those who do not. Why do you think this would be true? or do you believe on the idea that sexual experience before marriage better PREPARES you for marriage?

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/11/13 12:31 AM

Research indicates that couples who have sexual intercourse before marriage have a higher divorce rate than those who do not. Why do you think this would be true? or do you believe on the idea that sexual experience before marriage better PREPARES you for marriage?


when it comes to research , I strongly believe we can find research to indicate whatever we are looking for,, there is all kind of research done

and unfortunately, there is usually an objective for that research before it is done,,,there is usually an interest by the researchers to 'indicate' one thing or another

,,that being said

I think there is something to growing and developing with only one person, I think it is more likely to build a stronger bond, less likely to invite comparison/disappointment/unrealistic expectations,,,etc,,,

marriage is about many things including sex, and I think that sex itself can betray the mind and let the flesh take over,,,so its my opinion that leaving sex out until marriage lets people find if they are TRULY compatible in life, rather than just in a temporary state of lust

I think if people are truly compatible and in love, they can grow sexually together , to learn each others bodies and learn how to excite each other,,,,

sex before marriage, is more likely to distract us from more important things,, great sex can make us overlook serious flaws, and terrible sex can make us overlook all the things that click,,,,

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 12:59 AM
There are many kinds of research, is all. But I want to agree also that there are research that has been made and purely bias to the researcher/s hope as its result. Its a case to case basis afterall.

But given this topic, well I strongly vote that this is true for you can see the rate..I dont want to offend a race but in a country where premarital sex is pervasive, you can also see how obvious and high the divorce rate..compared to the country where premarital sex is not a culture or for them its a taboo..the divorce rate is very low.

But knowing this facts, there is a need to be openminded for there are circumstances that leads a couple to a succesful relationship.

no photo
Sat 05/11/13 01:21 AM
Research indicates whatever it wants, I have to use my own logic to decide how true it's most likely to be. Communication is probably why some are still married after seventy years together.

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 01:37 AM
So what is your logic about this topic?

Indeed, communication plays a big role in a succesful marriage. No doubt on that.

Christinacospgs's photo
Sat 05/11/13 06:12 AM
I think there is a difference between engaging in physical intimacy with someone you have really grown to care about over time, and just having sex. In this society today, I see a lot of people having sex, not making love. They don't give it any value, and it has no depth or meaning for them. Such an amazing and beautiful thing shouldn't be so devalued that it becomes meaningless to people, that makes me very sad. brokenheart
(see, sometimes I can be serious...)

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 06:30 AM
There is a need to differentiate lust from love. For me, sex is more than an intercourse. By its very nature, sex is a bonding experience. Its is the union of male and female in the most intimate way. It is not simply the joining of two bodies but of body, soul and spirit.

If intercourse is viewed only as a way to relieve sexual tension or to experience a moment of sexual pleasure, it ceases to reach itr designed purpose. And it eventually become mundane act of silfishness.

However, if intercourse is viewed as an act of love that expresses deepest possble way of commitment to each other, it leads to mutual sexual fulfilmnt.

RoamingOrator's photo
Sat 05/11/13 07:39 AM
Assuming the statistics to be true, which is probably a large assumption, I think I might see a correlation.

What this probably indicates is that people who are willing to use self discipline are actually putting in both time and effort to maintain a relationship. If they are doing that before the marriage, then they are more than likely to do that during the marriage.

Just a guess.

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 07:54 AM

Assuming the statistics to be true, which is probably a large assumption, I think I might see a correlation.

What this probably indicates is that people who are willing to use self discipline are actually putting in both time and effort to maintain a relationship. If they are doing that before the marriage, then they are more than likely to do that during the marriage.

Just a guess.


Talking about correlation, does that meant too that if you cheated or you are infidel with your past relationship before marriage, then you are more likely to do that even after marriage..hmmm.

Just a guess too:P

RoamingOrator's photo
Sat 05/11/13 08:05 AM


Assuming the statistics to be true, which is probably a large assumption, I think I might see a correlation.

What this probably indicates is that people who are willing to use self discipline are actually putting in both time and effort to maintain a relationship. If they are doing that before the marriage, then they are more than likely to do that during the marriage.

Just a guess.


Talking about correlation, does that meant too that if you cheated or you are infidel with your past relationship before marriage, then you are more likely to do that even after marriage..hmmm.

Just a guess too:P


Well, I don't know if I'd go so far as to say in "former relationships," call me an optimist, but I'd like to believe that people can grow and change. But if the person is cheating within the "current relationship," I see no reason why the bonds of marriage would make that any different. There is already a lack of respect for the partner, so why would signing a piece of paper make it any different?

Goofball73's photo
Sat 05/11/13 08:26 AM
I always take studies with a grain of salt. I believe there can be truth to them but I am not one who just automatically takes the study word for word.

Now...as for this study...I believe that couples today fail in their marriage because of.....

1. They never made an intellectual connection with one another. If you don't have that, then how on Earth can you even think of surviving in a marriage?

2. Lust. This is probably more common today because we have become a lust driven society.

3. People are lazy and do not wish to work on their marriage when it becomes tough. Basically....our society is a bunch of wussies and we would rather run to the hills vs. facing a problem that needs fixing.


A while back I sat down with my Uncle and Aunt and he told me the sweetest story of how he courted her. I looked at him and (even after 50 years of marriage) that man adored and loved my Aunt. I know they had some rocky times but they fought through them. I don't know of any "perfect" relationship and that seems to be another issue.....for some damn reason women and men are seeking perfection. It isn't possible. Anyways, I can't buy into sex before marriage leading to high divorce rates. I know of marriages where the couple had sex before the wedding and they are doing pretty good. I also know of people who married and the first thought you would have about them getting married was, "It won't last". Guess what? It didn't last (in most cases that is). Anyways....I call BS on this study. Just my opinion though.

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 08:49 AM

I always take studies with a grain of salt. I believe there can be truth to them but I am not one who just automatically takes the study word for word.

Now...as for this study...I believe that couples today fail in their marriage because of.....

1. They never made an intellectual connection with one another. If you don't have that, then how on Earth can you even think of surviving in a marriage?

2. Lust. This is probably more common today because we have become a lust driven society.

3. People are lazy and do not wish to work on their marriage when it becomes tough. Basically....our society is a bunch of wussies and we would rather run to the hills vs. facing a problem that needs fixing.


A while back I sat down with my Uncle and Aunt and he told me the sweetest story of how he courted her. I looked at him and (even after 50 years of marriage) that man adored and loved my Aunt. I know they had some rocky times but they fought through them. I don't know of any "perfect" relationship and that seems to be another issue.....for some damn reason women and men are seeking perfection. It isn't possible. Anyways, I can't buy into sex before marriage leading to high divorce rates. I know of marriages where the couple had sex before the wedding and they are doing pretty good. I also know of people who married and the first thought you would have about them getting married was, "It won't last". Guess what? It didn't last (in most cases that is). Anyways....I call BS on this study. Just my opinion though.



It does not mean that the study is true to all. It may or may not affect to you or to anyone. And it does not generalize that people who have sex before marriage will definitely get a divorce. We are talking about the rates. Lets say this country have higher divorce rates than other countries that isnt so liberated..take a look at the rate.

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 08:50 AM
Edited by amiechristdisciple on Sat 05/11/13 08:57 AM
REPOST

Is the divorce rate so high
because of the existence of
premarital sex?

As we know, the divorce rate is
extremely high in today's
society. My grandfather tells me
that when he was young the
divorce rate was low and he also tells me that during such times, people saved their virginity for marriage. However, today is so different, we live in a world where people consider premarital sex to be cool, some people say
"premarital sex it's like testing a
car" man, how immature those
people! so are they going to
have sex with a thousand people until they find a person who is good in bed? yes, i know, some of my fellow men would love that, but aren't women different? i think it's obvious that couples who have
premarital sex have a high
possibility of divorce and the
reason is obvious! if they had
premarital sex that means that
they can't control themselves,
they are easily tempted. Also, if
they had premarital sex, that
means that they don't see
nothing wrong with sex OUTSIDE of the marriage, so when they get married they are likely to cheat because they don't know how to control their desires and furthermore, they don't see anything wrong with sex outside of the marriage. On the other
hand, people who saved their
virginity for marriage are people who know how to control their desires and they know pretty well that sex outside of the marriage is absolutlty wrong and
as result they are very unlikely
to cheat.
I found this information on the
internet when a man is married as a virgin, his divorce rate is 63 percent lower than a non-virgin. For women, it's 76 percent lower. Edward O. Laumann, et
al., The Social Organization of
Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the
United States (Chicago:
University of Chicago Press,
1994), 503.

So, what do you think?

krupa's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:09 AM
Research indicates...hmmmm

Your research...Or some schmuck from the internet that you never met?

Here is a bit of research...

Christian marriages lead to all Christian divorces.

Look it up.

Sex for fun among non married partners lead to zero divorces.

Where is the upside to marrying a woman who has all the ideas about how a man should live up to her God's...ideal?

Can't be done.

Goofball73's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:13 AM
Okay. So...according to this survey, a person who has sex outside of marriage can't control their desires and are likely to cheat. I have to disagree with that. I can see how they can come to this conclusion but I don't buy into it. Just because you have sex before marriage does not mean you will see that it is okay to cheat when you do marry. And most people who choose to remain pure before marriage simply do so out of a religious belief. And that is totally cool and respectable. It's their own decision. As I said earlier...I call BS on this.

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:16 AM
Edited by amiechristdisciple on Sat 05/11/13 09:18 AM

Research indicates...hmmmm

Your research...Or some schmuck from the internet that you never met?

Here is a bit of research...

Christian marriages lead to all Christian divorces.

Look it up.

Sex for fun among non married partners lead to zero divorces.

Where is the upside to marrying a woman who has all the ideas about how a man should live up to her God's...ideal?

Can't be done.


Phew, your hitting my personal perspective. Take your idea with you and I would like to have my own. Anyway, this is a forum/discussion, it may or may not influence the mindset of someone..but afterall, its up to him/her.

soufiehere's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:21 AM
You are born.
Into your own body.
People will tell you what to do with it.
They are all wrong, as it is YOUR choice what to do with it.
You get the credit, you take the blame.

Wisdom can be learned from others, for sure.
And we all know it is plain smart to be cautious.
But you can't sleep with statistics.
You can use them to make your points.
But they apply only to you.

Doing what you think is right for you, is never wrong.

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:22 AM

REPOST

Is the divorce rate so high
because of the existence of
premarital sex?

As we know, the divorce rate is
extremely high in today's
society. My grandfather tells me
that when he was young the
divorce rate was low and he also tells me that during such times, people saved their virginity for marriage. However, today is so different, we live in a world where people consider premarital sex to be cool, some people say
"premarital sex it's like testing a
car" man, how immature those
people! so are they going to
have sex with a thousand people until they find a person who is good in bed? yes, i know, some of my fellow men would love that, but aren't women different? i think it's obvious that couples who have
premarital sex have a high
possibility of divorce and the
reason is obvious! if they had
premarital sex that means that
they can't control themselves,
they are easily tempted. Also, if
they had premarital sex, that
means that they don't see
nothing wrong with sex OUTSIDE of the marriage, so when they get married they are likely to cheat because they don't know how to control their desires and furthermore, they don't see anything wrong with sex outside of the marriage. On the other
hand, people who saved their
virginity for marriage are people who know how to control their desires and they know pretty well that sex outside of the marriage is absolutlty wrong and
as result they are very unlikely
to cheat.
I found this information on the
internet when a man is married as a virgin, his divorce rate is 63 percent lower than a non-virgin. For women, it's 76 percent lower. Edward O. Laumann, et
al., The Social Organization of
Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the
United States (Chicago:
University of Chicago Press,
1994), 503.

So, what do you think?



I think the likeminded seek the likeminded,,,which means it is probably mroe likely that those who put marriage 'on a pedastal' so to speak, who also put sexual relations on par with marriage,, are more likely to seek and surround themself with others of like mind

so they probably are also more likely to have the stamina and will power to do what it takes to treat their marriage, their marital partner, their marital bed,,, as if they are on a 'pedestal'

as opposed to a ball and chain, or some other casual responsibility,,,,

its also important the environment and network that people are surrounded by,, some are just not gonna be very supportive of marriage as an institution,,, or as a blessing, or anything of that nature,, I think many divorces could be avoided if people didnt have so many other people in their ears and so many 'expectaions' from others of how they s hould react to obstacles and problems....


krupa's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:23 AM
So...You are throwing a question out here for everyone...But, not actually wanting an answer that doesn't line up with your beliefs.

You gotta be a Christian.

Worry not...I won't marry you.

amiechristdisciple's photo
Sat 05/11/13 09:31 AM

So...You are throwing a question out here for everyone...But, not actually wanting an answer that doesn't line up with your beliefs.

You gotta be a Christian.

Worry not...I won't marry you.


Who told you that I dont I dont want an answer that doesnt line up with my beliefs? I am not posting a question to insinuate and start and argumentations. I just want to hear opinions and all that ******** ideas.

Its not even a survey or whatever. I believe on it and it doesnt mean I posted the question to make everyone believe like how I believe on it. Can you crack your head and open your mind? Im not inviting any stupidity in my question, if you want to express your ideas about it..fine. Dont hit me personally as youve known me already phew.

And who says I like to marry you? do not please yourself.

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