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quote I once read,,,
capital punishment: "Those without the capital, receive the punishment." |
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Just one of many well documented cases of the miscarriages of juctice, the above is the greatest miscarriage of justice in the American judicial systems history. not even close... i guess the 26 kids burned to death in waco by our government means nothing... but i guess bringing up racial issues from 70 years ago has it's meaning, it seems to follow the militant propaganda from your buddies at the NOI... again, your twisting things into your own illogical thinking... read it again, and look for where i said it was propaganda... I said your buddies at the NOI use this as propaganda for their militant fronts.... i have no reason to like it or not, it was 70 years ago, i simply don't care...one of many injustices, all i can say is good luck to ya getting it solved... i'm sure you find enough evidence to convict the evil white devil that did this heinous act over 70 years ago... |
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I believe they killed themselves after having 51 DAYS for those wishing to leave to do so,,,,, I believe suspicion of molesting children and having illegal firearms is enough reason to have a visit from law enforcement ,,,, ok, yea, they should die then... the bastards, being under suspicion and all... |
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First and foremost, there is no greater propaganda machine like the American goverments . . .
Wow, the above-quoted statement certainly is subjective. From my perspective, there is no greater propaganda machine like a group of people who are paranoid about the government. 75% and counting... |
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I think 'reasonable' doubt is often taking a back seat to the most emotional case presented by an attorney,,,, and since those defenses are LARGELY correlated with financial status and resources, it becomes innately classist and unjust I agree that everything in our society is about MONEY these days And all extreme crimes should be weighed and measured by the factual evidence There is much to be considered in declaring someone guilty of such heinous crimes But once guilt has been established without a doubt In spite of theatrics or "loopholes" The amount of money one can cough up for defense lawyers should be irrelevant Because all it does is open the doors for justice on the take ! Never the less is the fact of convicting the criminals Verses convicting the poor or "Have nots" A criminal and murderer is a criminal to me |
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What about Rowanda? 1 million Africans murdered in a genocidal mass killing. If you want to hit closer to home, Chicago's black on black gang member murders which hit record highs daily. I guess since Whitey has absolutely nothing to do with these killings. You don't see fit to mention them. Black folks kill more black folks. Than whitey ever has.
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I believe they killed themselves after having 51 DAYS for those wishing to leave to do so,,,,, I believe suspicion of molesting children and having illegal firearms is enough reason to have a visit from law enforcement ,,,, ok, yea, they should die then... the bastards, being under suspicion and all... speak about reading into things,,,,,wow suicide is not SOMEONE ELSES FAULT,,,, plain and simple,,,they didn't deserve death, and the duration of the stand off says to me that death was what was being AVOIDED until THEY Decided to commit suicide,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 04/30/13 02:40 PM
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What about Rowanda? 1 million Africans murdered in a genocidal mass killing. If you want to hit closer to home, Chicago's black on black gang member murders which hit record highs daily. I guess since Whitey has absolutely nothing to do with these killings. You don't see fit to mention them. Black folks kill more black folks. Than whitey ever has. ever is a long time, and I doubt there is any evidence to support the claim one way or the other and it would still be as irrelevant as me saying whites have killed more whites than blacks ever will, or rich have killed more poor than the poor ever could,,,etc,,,the discussion was about justice and it continues to be a false analogy to compare CRIMES with LEGAL POLICIES, when speaking about justice justice starts with someone being a victim and someone else being held responsible black on black crime holds someone responsible death penalty is EXCUSED as a legal policy,,,, |
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What about Rowanda? 1 million Africans murdered in a genocidal mass killing. If you want to hit closer to home, Chicago's black on black gang member murders which hit record highs daily. I guess since Whitey has absolutely nothing to do with these killings. You don't see fit to mention them. Black folks kill more black folks. Than whitey ever has. ever is a long time, and I doubt there is any evidence to support the claim one way or the other and it would still be as irrelevant as me saying whites have killed more whites than blacks ever will, or rich have killed more poor than the poor ever could,,,etc,,,the discussion was about justice and it continues to be a false analogy to compare CRIMES with LEGAL POLICIES, when speaking about justice justice starts with someone being a victim and someone else being held responsible black on black crime holds someone responsible death penalty is EXCUSED as a legal policy,,,, If you're going to bring up a miscarriage of justice from 70 years ago. Regarding an all white jury. Then whats wrong with bringing up all black murderers. Gotta balance the scales a bit. Especially when you mention all this garbage being fed to America by the NO |
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What about Rowanda? 1 million Africans murdered in a genocidal mass killing. If you want to hit closer to home, Chicago's black on black gang member murders which hit record highs daily. I guess since Whitey has absolutely nothing to do with these killings. You don't see fit to mention them. Black folks kill more black folks. Than whitey ever has. ever is a long time, and I doubt there is any evidence to support the claim one way or the other and it would still be as irrelevant as me saying whites have killed more whites than blacks ever will, or rich have killed more poor than the poor ever could,,,etc,,,the discussion was about justice and it continues to be a false analogy to compare CRIMES with LEGAL POLICIES, when speaking about justice justice starts with someone being a victim and someone else being held responsible black on black crime holds someone responsible death penalty is EXCUSED as a legal policy,,,, If you're going to bring up a miscarriage of justice from 70 years ago. Regarding an all white jury. Then whats wrong with bringing up all black murderers. Gotta balance the scales a bit. Especially when you mention all this garbage being fed to America by the NO bring up whatever irrelevant sideline available,,,its a free country,,, but as I said, BLACK MURDERERS (as is pointed out in this post) are held ACCOUNTABLE for their actions and are systematically PROSECUTED, IMPRISONED and PUT ON DEATH ROW for such actions as 'justice' dictates the example of the OP was , specifically , a 'MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE' because the accountability was assigned to a child, with a minimum of evidence , to support that childs EXECUTION,,,, |
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Mobutu alone is responsible for the deaths of countless Africans. Yet no one talks about him. I guess he gets a free get out of jail card That sounds like a real injustice to me.
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Mobutu alone is responsible for the deaths of countless Africans. Yet no one talks about him. I guess he gets a free get out of jail card That sounds like a real injustice to me. lol,, this is not the continent of Africa,, this is the continent of North America |
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Mobutu alone is responsible for the deaths of countless Africans. Yet no one talks about him. I guess he gets a free get out of jail card That sounds like a real injustice to me. lol,, this is not the continent of Africa,, this is the continent of North America That it is, and blaming whitey for everything. Excluding all else isn't going to solve anything. You want to have a conversation about justice/injustice. Then blame human beings as a whole. Then let go of things that happened 70 years ago. I assure you no one in this thread was alive back then. Nor had anything to do with it. |
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Mobutu alone is responsible for the deaths of countless Africans. Yet no one talks about him. I guess he gets a free get out of jail card That sounds like a real injustice to me. lol,, this is not the continent of Africa,, this is the continent of North America That it is, and blaming whitey for everything. Excluding all else isn't going to solve anything. You want to have a conversation about justice/injustice. Then blame human beings as a whole. Then let go of things that happened 70 years ago. I assure you no one in this thread was alive back then. Nor had anything to do with it. the topic was the death penalty,, no one was blaming whites,, the op was pointing out the flaws of the justice system that includes the death of a young child the details DID involve the races,,,,,its one specific example, not the blaming of 'all white people for everything' |
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Mobutu alone is responsible for the deaths of countless Africans. Yet no one talks about him. I guess he gets a free get out of jail card That sounds like a real injustice to me. lol,, this is not the continent of Africa,, this is the continent of North America That it is, and blaming whitey for everything. Excluding all else isn't going to solve anything. You want to have a conversation about justice/injustice. Then blame human beings as a whole. Then let go of things that happened 70 years ago. I assure you no one in this thread was alive back then. Nor had anything to do with it. the topic was the death penalty,, no one was blaming whites,, the op was pointing out the flaws of the justice system that includes the death of a young child the details DID involve the races,,,,,its one specific example, not the blaming of 'all white people for everything' Liberal sympathizers are doing exactly that on a daily basis. Comments like "let's hope the boston bombers are white guys" Then bringing up examples of an all white jury from a 70 year old case. Can make someone think that is exactly what you're leading too. Especially when your discussions are more liberal than anything else. |
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Just one of many well documented cases of the miscarriages of juctice, the above is the greatest miscarriage of justice in the American judicial systems history. not even close... i guess the 26 kids burned to death in waco by our government means nothing... but i guess bringing up racial issues from 70 years ago has it's meaning, it seems to follow the militant propaganda from your buddies at the NOI... again, your twisting things into your own illogical thinking... read it again, and look for where i said it was propaganda... I said your buddies at the NOI use this as propaganda for their militant fronts.... i have no reason to like it or not, it was 70 years ago, i simply don't care...one of many injustices, all i can say is good luck to ya getting it solved... i'm sure you find enough evidence to convict the evil white devil that did this heinous act over 70 years ago... |
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Mobutu alone is responsible for the deaths of countless Africans. Yet no one talks about him. I guess he gets a free get out of jail card That sounds like a real injustice to me. lol,, this is not the continent of Africa,, this is the continent of North America That it is, and blaming whitey for everything. Excluding all else isn't going to solve anything. You want to have a conversation about justice/injustice. Then blame human beings as a whole. Then let go of things that happened 70 years ago. I assure you no one in this thread was alive back then. Nor had anything to do with it. the topic was the death penalty,, no one was blaming whites,, the op was pointing out the flaws of the justice system that includes the death of a young child the details DID involve the races,,,,,its one specific example, not the blaming of 'all white people for everything' Liberal sympathizers are doing exactly that on a daily basis. Comments like "let's hope the boston bombers are white guys" Then bringing up examples of an all white jury from a 70 year old case. Can make someone think that is exactly what you're leading too. Especially when your discussions are more liberal than anything else. I saw no reference in this thread to bostom bombers,, and this thread is specifically what my responses in this thread are about the flaws of the justice system do have to do with class and race,,, and the topic of the thread is the flaws of the death penalty , which also have a lot to do with class and race I understand the defensiveness some have about discussing anything that includes race, just as I understand the interest others have in shining a light on it,,, |
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Just one of many well documented cases of the miscarriages of juctice, the above is the greatest miscarriage of justice in the American judicial systems history. not even close... i guess the 26 kids burned to death in waco by our government means nothing... but i guess bringing up racial issues from 70 years ago has it's meaning, it seems to follow the militant propaganda from your buddies at the NOI... again, your twisting things into your own illogical thinking... read it again, and look for where i said it was propaganda... I said your buddies at the NOI use this as propaganda for their militant fronts.... i have no reason to like it or not, it was 70 years ago, i simply don't care...one of many injustices, all i can say is good luck to ya getting it solved... i'm sure you find enough evidence to convict the evil white devil that did this heinous act over 70 years ago... lol... just like the overzealous black devils that sold your ancestors to the while devils? man, i'm so sorry everyone but white people had problems in their past... but, as per status quo, blame whitey.. |
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Whats truely illogical that because I, a lover of justice need "buddies" for love of justice. Are nazis your buddies? Of course you care for the 26 murdered at Waco, by your goverment, the same goverment that is slaughtering in foreign countries tuen telling you those countries are the bad guys, all whipe confirming yourself that your goverment was "overzealous". The reason you dont care is because the crimes committed are reflective of you. Not because it was 70 years ago, but because this case destroys your false sence of rightousness, who cares what others use to spread propaganda. The fact is that you can not use TRUTH for propaganda, if indeed the NOI is useing this, it can only be used to shed light on a injustice. As for their socalled militant fronts, no one has provided the fodder for militantcy more then your racism. Whats truely amazing is that the feeling you get every time past and presnt crimes are brought to light, you immiediately assume a defence of the very crimes inkustice have allow to fester. It bothers you to know that the lilly white image youve been taught all your life has been a living lie. Enjoy the myth. By the way, id say its fair to say that those responcible for the 14 year olds grave injustice and that of the two girls as well as waco are indeed overzealouse devils. If you read my above post I said blame human beings as a whole for injustice. In regards to your comment about the "Devils" Now that is some true racism right there. Why don't you just mean what you say. Which would be "white devils" I never heard Farrakhan hold back. Why should you? |
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If you read my above post I said blame human beings as a whole for injustice. In regards to your comment about the "Devils" Now that is some true racism right there. Why don't you just mean what you say. Which would be "white devils" I never heard Farrakhan hold back. Why should you? This thread is about the flaws of the death penalty, its historic racism, and its continual inbalence in its discrimanatory present practice. Only those who are defensive have deflected the thread towards racism. If you think Whites are devils, you dont need any help from me, the defensiveness to injust |
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