Topic: The death penalty and its flaws
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Tue 04/30/13 06:04 PM

I personally see zero difference between Farrakhan and David Duke. Farrakhan hates jews, and white people. Duke hates jews, and black people. The message and hatred is the same.
The big difference between the two are huge to anyone knowledgable in American history. David Duke speaks forvand represents a terrorist group with a well documented history of murder, rape, castrations, burnings of human beings and destroying property of unprotected men, women and children. The Min. Farrakhan has and continue to expose current injustice domestic and abroad. Both condemn the Jews. The Minister exposes the Jews past and present criminal ectivities including the hugevrole they played during slavery. David Duke and so called nationalist whites and racists condemn Jews for their robbing them of the billions in booty during the same era as well as present control of Media, Hollywood, banking, and the Federal Reserve, the differences are monumental.

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Tue 04/30/13 06:19 PM
Edited by Ras427 on Tue 04/30/13 06:21 PM

Getting back to the original topic, there is a difference between arguing about the morality of executing cold-blooded murderers and arguing about the circumstances under which the death penalty is given.

One can condone the execution of cold-blooded murderers while insisting that the death penalty be given under strict conditions. As I see it, the flaw is in the conditions under which the death penalty has been given.
Exactly what this thread was intended to address. From the very early stages of any investigation, everything has to be thoroughly modified to secure integrity in the justice system. The current and past injustices are directly attributed to lack of oversight and plain lack of integrity in part by prosucution, police, investigators, detectives who are often corrupt, defence attorneys as well, the appealate division as well. He who commits a heinouse crime deserves to be punished, if by death penalty, fine, im against the death penalty because our present system is not totally committed to justice, they are more selective in providing that justice. Politics also have contributed highly in defering justice. The system does indeed have to be perfect, if not, there will always be someone innocent of a crime being executed. As long as race, class and or political strength is a criteria, justice will continue to be but a word with as much meaning as nothing.

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Tue 04/30/13 06:20 PM


I personally see zero difference between Farrakhan and David Duke. Farrakhan hates jews, and white people. Duke hates jews, and black people. The message and hatred is the same.
The big difference between the two are huge to anyone knowledgable in American history. David Duke speaks forvand represents a terrorist group with a well documented history of murder, rape, castrations, burnings of human beings and destroying property of unprotected men, women and children. The Min. Farrakhan has and continue to expose current injustice domestic and abroad. Both condemn the Jews. The Minister exposes the Jews past and present criminal ectivities including the hugevrole they played during slavery. David Duke and so called nationalist whites and racists condemn Jews for their robbing them of the billions in booty during the same era as well as present control of Media, Hollywood, banking, and the Federal Reserve, the differences are monumental.


Simply put. The whites have done it and now the blacks want to do it.

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Tue 04/30/13 06:24 PM



I personally see zero difference between Farrakhan and David Duke. Farrakhan hates jews, and white people. Duke hates jews, and black people. The message and hatred is the same.
The big difference between the two are huge to anyone knowledgable in American history. David Duke speaks forvand represents a terrorist group with a well documented history of murder, rape, castrations, burnings of human beings and destroying property of unprotected men, women and children. The Min. Farrakhan has and continue to expose current injustice domestic and abroad. Both condemn the Jews. The Minister exposes the Jews past and present criminal ectivities including the hugevrole they played during slavery. David Duke and so called nationalist whites and racists condemn Jews for their robbing them of the billions in booty during the same era as well as present control of Media, Hollywood, banking, and the Federal Reserve, the differences are monumental.


Simply put. The whites have done it and now the blacks want to do it.
that makes no sence whatsoever.huh

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Tue 04/30/13 06:28 PM
I guess in the pursuit of the lesser of 2 evils. One should choose the radical islamist. However in the pursuit of goodness I could name a great man like Mahatma Gandhi, Who never had to slander any races nor exhibit violence to make a change. Then again you might not want to mention Gandhi since he was murdered by a radical islamist just like Minister Farrakhan.

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Tue 04/30/13 06:32 PM




I personally see zero difference between Farrakhan and David Duke. Farrakhan hates jews, and white people. Duke hates jews, and black people. The message and hatred is the same.
The big difference between the two are huge to anyone knowledgable in American history. David Duke speaks forvand represents a terrorist group with a well documented history of murder, rape, castrations, burnings of human beings and destroying property of unprotected men, women and children. The Min. Farrakhan has and continue to expose current injustice domestic and abroad. Both condemn the Jews. The Minister exposes the Jews past and present criminal ectivities including the hugevrole they played during slavery. David Duke and so called nationalist whites and racists condemn Jews for their robbing them of the billions in booty during the same era as well as present control of Media, Hollywood, banking, and the Federal Reserve, the differences are monumental.


Simply put. The whites have done it and now the blacks want to do it.
that makes no sence whatsoever.huh

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Tue 04/30/13 07:20 PM

I guess in the pursuit of the lesser of 2 evils. One should choose the radical islamist. However in the pursuit of goodness I could name a great man like Mahatma Gandhi, Who never had to slander any races nor exhibit violence to make a change. Then again you might not want to mention Gandhi since he was murdered by a radical islamist just like Minister Farrakhan.
Im afraid you are wrong, There is evil, and then there is its responce. First of all evil is the ones who terrerized men women and children during not only slavery and the Jim Crow era, but also, white terrorists racists openly bombed many churches during the civil rights era as well, the 6th st. Baptist church was one of many targets of sanctioned terrorism of the 50s and 60s. Many were carried out by hooded law enforcment and other goverment officials. No white churches or other places of worship was ever terrorized by by groups. Whites were not victims of murder, rape, castrations nor public burnings by Black groups. Whites did not have their schools, property, homes or farms destroyed by Black kkk. So you see, your sence of right is not only missplaced, its distorted in way of facts. Secondly Min. Farrakhan can not possibly be an Islamist because, 1.there is no such thing, 2. Most Muslims around the world are Sunni, and other sects. They dont agree with him because he uas called strapping on bombs and killing innocent people is wrong and that Muslims around the world are not practicing nor are properly practicing Islam. So that point you make is bogus to say the least. Finally, you are also mislead on Ghandi, he did in fact preach to resist British occupation and criminalityin India. In fact not all of his many speeches peacefull. Many of his speeches inspired more extreme elements to indeed rebel against British rule through armed resistence. He was a peacefull man, however, his commitment to becoming an independent nation did inspire violence. As for the Muslim who killed him, in India at the time, the conflict between Muslims and Hindus was inspired by British spies that created distrust among the two to insure continued divide and conquer tactics that further prolonged British rule. Muslims at the time were recruited to bid for the British. You obviousely know little of your own Akerican history, let alone Indian. This thread was originally regarding the flaws of the death penelty, not Islam nor rrligion.

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Tue 04/30/13 07:26 PM


you, being a Nubian queen, have nothing to worry about from the NOI, unless you have some white friends... just praise allah 5 times a day, and quit eating pork...


Dude, that remark crosses the line into a personal slur. rant
msharmony's racial identity has nothing to do with the arguments that she is making.
I agree.


would you also be mad if i called a cat a cat?

MH can handle herself quite well, she doesn't need any help from the popcorn section...

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Tue 04/30/13 07:28 PM


I guess in the pursuit of the lesser of 2 evils. One should choose the radical islamist. However in the pursuit of goodness I could name a great man like Mahatma Gandhi, Who never had to slander any races nor exhibit violence to make a change. Then again you might not want to mention Gandhi since he was murdered by a radical islamist just like Minister Farrakhan.
Im afraid you are wrong, There is evil, and then there is its responce. First of all evil is the ones who terrerized men women and children during not only slavery and the Jim Crow era, but also, white terrorists racists openly bombed many churches during the civil rights era as well, the 6th st. Baptist church was one of many targets of sanctioned terrorism of the 50s and 60s. Many were carried out by hooded law enforcment and other goverment officials. No white churches or other places of worship was ever terrorized by by groups. Whites were not victims of murder, rape, castrations nor public burnings by Black groups. Whites did not have their schools, property, homes or farms destroyed by Black kkk. So you see, your sence of right is not only missplaced, its distorted in way of facts. Secondly Min. Farrakhan can not possibly be an Islamist because, 1.there is no such thing, 2. Most Muslims around the world are Sunni, and other sects. They dont agree with him because he uas called strapping on bombs and killing innocent people is wrong and that Muslims around the world are not practicing nor are properly practicing Islam. So that point you make is bogus to say the least. Finally, you are also mislead on Ghandi, he did in fact preach to resist British occupation and criminalityin India. In fact not all of his many speeches peacefull. Many of his speeches inspired more extreme elements to indeed rebel against British rule through armed resistence. He was a peacefull man, however, his commitment to becoming an independent nation did inspire violence. As for the Muslim who killed him, in India at the time, the conflict between Muslims and Hindus was inspired by British spies that created distrust among the two to insure continued divide and conquer tactics that further prolonged British rule. Muslims at the time were recruited to bid for the British. You obviousely know little of your own Akerican history, let alone Indian. This thread was originally regarding the flaws of the death penelty, not Islam nor rrligion.


whoa


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Tue 04/30/13 07:34 PM


I guess in the pursuit of the lesser of 2 evils. One should choose the radical islamist. However in the pursuit of goodness I could name a great man like Mahatma Gandhi, Who never had to slander any races nor exhibit violence to make a change. Then again you might not want to mention Gandhi since he was murdered by a radical islamist just like Minister Farrakhan.
Im afraid you are wrong, There is evil, and then there is its responce. First of all evil is the ones who terrerized men women and children during not only slavery and the Jim Crow era, but also, white terrorists racists openly bombed many churches during the civil rights era as well, the 6th st. Baptist church was one of many targets of sanctioned terrorism of the 50s and 60s. Many were carried out by hooded law enforcment and other goverment officials. No white churches or other places of worship was ever terrorized by by groups. Whites were not victims of murder, rape, castrations nor public burnings by Black groups. Whites did not have their schools, property, homes or farms destroyed by Black kkk. So you see, your sence of right is not only missplaced, its distorted in way of facts. Secondly Min. Farrakhan can not possibly be an Islamist because, 1.there is no such thing, 2. Most Muslims around the world are Sunni, and other sects. They dont agree with him because he uas called strapping on bombs and killing innocent people is wrong and that Muslims around the world are not practicing nor are properly practicing Islam. So that point you make is bogus to say the least. Finally, you are also mislead on Ghandi, he did in fact preach to resist British occupation and criminalityin India. In fact not all of his many speeches peacefull. Many of his speeches inspired more extreme elements to indeed rebel against British rule through armed resistence. He was a peacefull man, however, his commitment to becoming an independent nation did inspire violence. As for the Muslim who killed him, in India at the time, the conflict between Muslims and Hindus was inspired by British spies that created distrust among the two to insure continued divide and conquer tactics that further prolonged British rule. Muslims at the time were recruited to bid for the British. You obviousely know little of your own Akerican history, let alone Indian. This thread was originally regarding the flaws of the death penelty, not Islam nor rrligion.

Really? I guess you forgot about the group of black men that murdered the white guy for having a southern flag on his truck. Or The white guy who is on trial for murder for shooting a black guy that was bashing his head against concrete because he was on the neighborhood watch. After he approached the black guy to question his suspicious activity. In regards to the murder of Gandhi being blamed on a british conspiracy. That's right up there with area 51 containing aliens and The theory of the sasquatch. I suppose you subscribe to that as well. Either way both Farrakhan and Duke are 2 racist idiots. If you'd like to choose one over the other. I guess it says a lot about you.

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Tue 04/30/13 07:37 PM
Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

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Tue 04/30/13 07:40 PM

Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

Isn't that something people say. When they have been proven wrong? Kind of like Ugly people saying "beauty is only skin deep" or Fat people saying "Love me for my mind"

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Tue 04/30/13 07:48 PM
Edited by Ras427 on Tue 04/30/13 07:50 PM


Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

Isn't that something people say. When they have been proven wrong? Kind of like Ugly people saying "beauty is only skin deep" or Fat people saying "Love me for my mind"
Wow!! You did not know Ghandi was fighting for the independence of India from British colonial rule? Id love to continue this little war of words with you, however, you are obviousely unarmed. Wow!! Amazing.laugh

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Tue 04/30/13 07:53 PM


Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

Isn't that something people say. When they have been proven wrong? Kind of like Ugly people saying "beauty is only skin deep" or Fat people saying "Love me for my mind"
proven wrong? Thats funny. Where?laugh

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Tue 04/30/13 07:55 PM



Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

Isn't that something people say. When they have been proven wrong? Kind of like Ugly people saying "beauty is only skin deep" or Fat people saying "Love me for my mind"
Wow!! You did not know Ghandi was fighting for the independence of India from British colonial rule? Id love to continue this little war of words with you, however, you are obviousely unarmed. Wow!! Amazing.laugh

Not only do I know all about Gandhi's non violent fight against the british empire. I also know the real reason he was assassinated was because the muslim population of India. Decided Gandhi's interest in liberating India was more inclined toward the Hindus than toward the muslim's thus the creation of Pakistan in 1948. Now just like all muslims it seems anything against or in this case (not giving enough attention) to the muslim population should be murdered. As they say in Islam kill the unbeliever. So yes my argument is well prepared. How is yours?

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Tue 04/30/13 07:58 PM


I guess in the pursuit of the lesser of 2 evils. One should choose the radical islamist. However in the pursuit of goodness I could name a great man like Mahatma Gandhi, Who never had to slander any races nor exhibit violence to make a change. Then again you might not want to mention Gandhi since he was murdered by a radical islamist just like Minister Farrakhan.
Im afraid you are wrong, There is evil, and then there is its responce. First of all evil is the ones who terrerized men women and children during not only slavery and the Jim Crow era, but also, white terrorists racists openly bombed many churches during the civil rights era as well, the 6th st. Baptist church was one of many targets of sanctioned terrorism of the 50s and 60s. Many were carried out by hooded law enforcment and other goverment officials. No white churches or other places of worship was ever terrorized by by groups. Whites were not victims of murder, rape, castrations nor public burnings by Black groups. Whites did not have their schools, property, homes or farms destroyed by Black kkk. So you see, your sence of right is not only missplaced, its distorted in way of facts. Secondly Min. Farrakhan can not possibly be an Islamist because, 1.there is no such thing, 2. Most Muslims around the world are Sunni, and other sects. They dont agree with him because he uas called strapping on bombs and killing innocent people is wrong and that Muslims around the world are not practicing nor are properly practicing Islam. So that point you make is bogus to say the least. Finally, you are also mislead on Ghandi, he did in fact preach to resist British occupation and criminalityin India. In fact not all of his many speeches peacefull. Many of his speeches inspired more extreme elements to indeed rebel against British rule through armed resistence. He was a peacefull man, however, his commitment to becoming an independent nation did inspire violence. As for the Muslim who killed him, in India at the time, the conflict between Muslims and Hindus was inspired by British spies that created distrust among the two to insure continued divide and conquer tactics that further prolonged British rule. Muslims at the time were recruited to bid for the British. You obviousely know little of your own Akerican history, let alone Indian. This thread was originally regarding the flaws of the death penelty, not Islam nor rrligion.
nothing in this post has been proven wrong, by you or nobody else.

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Tue 04/30/13 07:59 PM
Make that '47' I was off a year.

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Tue 04/30/13 08:05 PM
victims of
nothing in this post has been proven wrong, by you or nobody else.


Sure it has, In the course of this thread. You have spoken out against.. The white man, The jews, Denied the existence of radical islam. Spoken for a radical racist minister. Even called the death of a peaceful leader a conspiracy by british spies.

You have proven all by yourself that you are inclined toward Islam. Regardless of right or wrong and that you are against other races.

Where does that make you right in any way?

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Tue 04/30/13 08:06 PM




Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

Isn't that something people say. When they have been proven wrong? Kind of like Ugly people saying "beauty is only skin deep" or Fat people saying "Love me for my mind"
Wow!! You did not know Ghandi was fighting for the independence of India from British colonial rule? Id love to continue this little war of words with you, however, you are obviousely unarmed. Wow!! Amazing.laugh

Not only do I know all about Gandhi's non violent fight against the british empire. I also know the real reason he was assassinated was because the muslim population of India. Decided Gandhi's interest in liberating India was more inclined toward the Hindus than toward the muslim's thus the creation of Pakistan in 1948. Now just like all muslims it seems anything against or in this case (not giving enough attention) to the muslim population should be murdered. As they say in Islam kill the unbeliever. So yes my argument is well prepared. How is yours?
I believe I covered that already, but the topic is still about the death penalty and its historical injustice towards people of color. Finally, British operatives had much to do with keeping India instable. So your original claim of Ghandie is incorrect. His committement to Indias independence from British colonial rule did in fact inspire violence and resistance. Your obssession with Muslims has its roots on fox news. Ill return tovthe topic at hand considering you prefer a war of words wity no means.

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Tue 04/30/13 08:13 PM





Most people who no longer have anything to offer in way of construtive debate will often revert to imature inuendo to deflect from lack of constructive input leaving then in the sake place they started from, with nothing.flowerforyou

Isn't that something people say. When they have been proven wrong? Kind of like Ugly people saying "beauty is only skin deep" or Fat people saying "Love me for my mind"
Wow!! You did not know Ghandi was fighting for the independence of India from British colonial rule? Id love to continue this little war of words with you, however, you are obviousely unarmed. Wow!! Amazing.laugh

Not only do I know all about Gandhi's non violent fight against the british empire. I also know the real reason he was assassinated was because the muslim population of India. Decided Gandhi's interest in liberating India was more inclined toward the Hindus than toward the muslim's thus the creation of Pakistan in 1948. Now just like all muslims it seems anything against or in this case (not giving enough attention) to the muslim population should be murdered. As they say in Islam kill the unbeliever. So yes my argument is well prepared. How is yours?
I believe I covered that already, but the topic is still about the death penalty and its historical injustice towards people of color. Finally, British operatives had much to do with keeping India instable. So your original claim of Ghandie is incorrect. His committement to Indias independence from British colonial rule did in fact inspire violence and resistance. Your obssession with Muslims has its roots on fox news. Ill return tovthe topic at hand considering you prefer a war of words wity no means.


I'd have to differ on that opinion of yours. Gandhi never inspired violence. People committed violent acts of their own free will in India. Mostly under the Islamic ideals of violence not Gandhi's. I see your roots are coming from Farrakhan and Al Sharpton. Wherever you learned all this, Didn't they also teach you about fairness and equality? Or did that also get lost in your radicalized learning?