Topic: How the Tea Party is to Blame for Bombing
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Sun 04/21/13 01:54 PM










If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/21/13 01:58 PM











If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.



these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'


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Sun 04/21/13 01:59 PM


By David Horsey
April 19, 2013, 5:00 a.m.
Usually, it would be best to ignore conspiracy-mongers such as Alex Jones and not reward him and his angry gaggle of paranoiac followers with any sort of attention. But, in a week when thoughts of the dead and maimed victims of the Boston Marathon bombings weigh heavy on the hearts and minds of most Americans, it is worth pointing out what a worthless waste of skin and bones Jones and his minions happen to be.

Nearly as soon as I heard about the bombings on Monday, I was certain that somewhere in the nutty right-wing blogosphere someone was already concocting a storyline that would blame the crime on President Obama and the federal government. Alex Jones came through with impressive rapidity.

Jones runs a radio show from Austin, Texas. He describes himself as a libertarian and an “aggressive constitutionalist.” The Southern Poverty Law Center says he has stirred up racial animus “to appeal to the fears of the antigovernment Patriot movement.” He certainly appeals to fear. Jones asserts that both the Oklahoma City bombing and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks were perpetrated by the U.S. government as part of a scheme to promote a New World Order through “exploitable hysteria.”

So it is no surprise that he is now pushing the idea that the Boston bombings were the nefarious handiwork of federal agents. At Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick’s press briefing just a few hours after the explosions, one of Jones’ minions, Dan Biondi, was on hand to ask the governor if this was a "staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote homeland security while sticking their hands down our pants on the streets?"

"No," Patrick replied tersely. "Next question."

Meanwhile, Jones was on the air, on Twitter and on the Internet pushing his claim that the FBI engineered the bombings under the “false flag” of a terrorist group as a pretense for expanding the power of the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration. He warned of TSA groping teams at sporting events “coming soon.”

Jones is asking Americans to believe that their own government is responsible for all of the worst terrorist attacks in the country’s history and that the motivation for the latest one is a desire to grope sports fans. All of this is, of course, total ping-pong-balls-for-brains nonsense. It would be laughable if it were not for the fact that this conspiracy kook claims 2 million radio listeners and more online followers than Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh combined.

Jones is a purveyor of the neo-Confederate brand of “patriotism” that has gained currency on the far starboard side of American politics. I do not think he should shut up or be shut down; he has the same 1st Amendment rights as I do. But he deserves to be exposed for what he is: a delusional, self-promoting bully who is slandering the very people who are right now doing the truly patriotic work of bringing the Boston bombers to justice.

Original source: Alex Jones has a sick theory about the Boston Marathon bombings on Los Angeles Times Exclusive




And Alex Jones is a disinformation agent for Zionists. You notice he rarely talks about Israel or Zionism. That is because he is in their control.

Why would Zionists want Alex Jones to vilify the U.S. Government? Because They want to take over the entire world and they want the U.S. government to fall like the Roman Empire Fell.

Zionists are behind the globalist plan for a new world order, not the U.S. government. They have infiltrated our government.







Alex Jones, and his 'softer side', this Lush Limbaugh are infamous for their co-ordinated efforts to never mention the Zionist menace; not to mention all the various, so called phony 'christian' evangelicals that support Zionism in some really bizarre idea that Israel and the Zionists are 'religious'. Nothing could be further from the reality of the enmity between the religious factions and those that suffer from the dreaded disease of Zionism. It is just another form of a mental virus that continues to infect the Protestant denominations who think that in following the Jewish Old Testament despite the founding of the New Testament by Christ, support and defend their mental infections of Zionism and those who follow the Torah which is about un-Christian as one could get other than renouncing the New Testament altogether. Zionism is a mental virus; a mental disease, just as virulent as Nazism, fascism or communism. Those that follow any of these 'ism's' should be considered contagious and isolated from the rest of humankind; perhaps even eliminated altogether for the benefit of humanity..

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Sun 04/21/13 01:59 PM








If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,
some day you might find out that Einstein's Theory of Relativity doesn't apply to Ethics an Morality!

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 04/21/13 02:00 PM
Unfortunately they have video of him, and the resultant chase and bomb hurling at cops and killing one cop makes him cold-blooded now.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/21/13 02:01 PM









If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,
some day you might find out that Einstein's Theory of Relativity doesn't apply to Ethics an Morality!


someday you might find out that 'morals' can get lost when the person is immature or young, or when the choice involves living or dying,,,,staying safe from harm or being hurt,,,,,people forsake 'morals' for alot less who are much older and expected to be much more mature,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/21/13 02:04 PM

Unfortunately they have video of him, and the resultant chase and bomb hurling at cops and killing one cop makes him cold-blooded now.


Im tired of debating it really, havent seen the video, or who pulled what trigger or why,, there were two of them, two coldblooded or possibly one coldblooded and the other trying to stay alive,,,,

coldblooded to me implies no concern for the life of others, it doesnt mean concern for staying alive oneself,,,,there is a difference to me,,,,

no photo
Sun 04/21/13 02:13 PM












If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.



these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'



So because they murdered fewer people than some serial killers, Means to you that they should receive sympathy?

In regards to calling for death, On a man who murdered many people isn't an emotional response. There is a much better suited word for that its called "Justice"

Also I know its the in thing, To pull the "im black" card when someone calls you out on your B.S. However when your wrong, Your'e wrong. Whatever race, creed, or color that you are.

Also your emotions are a whole lot easier to read on this blog. You are the one capitalizing words. Using emotional clicks like whoa

Maybe your not so psychic after all. Just predictable as most followers are.

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Sun 04/21/13 02:27 PM


Unfortunately they have video of him, and the resultant chase and bomb hurling at cops and killing one cop makes him cold-blooded now.


Im tired of debating it really, havent seen the video, or who pulled what trigger or why,, there were two of them, two coldblooded or possibly one coldblooded and the other trying to stay alive,,,,

coldblooded to me implies no concern for the life of others, it doesnt mean concern for staying alive oneself,,,,there is a difference to me,,,,

Maybe you should consider doing a little more research on the subject in question, Before debating it. Otherwise you could end up like a one legged man in an azz kicking contest. Not a good place to be.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:14 PM
whoa













If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.



these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'



So because they murdered fewer people than some serial killers, Means to you that they should receive sympathy?

In regards to calling for death, On a man who murdered many people isn't an emotional response. There is a much better suited word for that its called "Justice"

Also I know its the in thing, To pull the "im black" card when someone calls you out on your B.S. However when your wrong, Your'e wrong. Whatever race, creed, or color that you are.

Also your emotions are a whole lot easier to read on this blog. You are the one capitalizing words. Using emotional clicks like whoa

Maybe your not so psychic after all. Just predictable as most followers are.


1. no, because they mrudered fewer people with a bomb than the serial and spree killers who ignite gun control debate, it makes this case irrelevant to the gun control debate

2. no 'they' dont deserve sympathy, but the teen may depending upon what the circumstances of his involvement are

3.in regards to the death penalty for one who murdered others, I dont agree with the death penalty in general because of how much I Feel details matter,, and Ive made no secret of it,,,but ESPECIALLY in cases of duress where I feel legal precedent backs me up on what constitutes murder of the death penalty type from others

4. there is no 'im black' card, I believe someone compared me to miss cleo of which the only obvious similarity is that we are both black

5. emotional clickes like whoa and capitalizing words are just as easy to read as using words like 'coldblooded' and using insults like falling off a cliff and having difficulty putting 2 and 2 together. takes one to know one,,,,seems like emotions on both sides, but IM just trying to interject LOGIC In WITH THE EMOTION.

6. Im no more pyschic or predictable than anyone else posting with the desire to just see more death/revenge.


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Sun 04/21/13 03:15 PM



Unfortunately they have video of him, and the resultant chase and bomb hurling at cops and killing one cop makes him cold-blooded now.


Im tired of debating it really, havent seen the video, or who pulled what trigger or why,, there were two of them, two coldblooded or possibly one coldblooded and the other trying to stay alive,,,,

coldblooded to me implies no concern for the life of others, it doesnt mean concern for staying alive oneself,,,,there is a difference to me,,,,

Maybe you should consider doing a little more research on the subject in question, Before debating it. Otherwise you could end up like a one legged man in an azz kicking contest. Not a good place to be.


which subject are you suggesting I 'research'? The two day old information still being gathered about the bombers?
gun control debates?

what is the 'topic' exactly that research would help discuss?

no photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:29 PM

whoa













If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.



these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'



So because they murdered fewer people than some serial killers, Means to you that they should receive sympathy?

In regards to calling for death, On a man who murdered many people isn't an emotional response. There is a much better suited word for that its called "Justice"

Also I know its the in thing, To pull the "im black" card when someone calls you out on your B.S. However when your wrong, Your'e wrong. Whatever race, creed, or color that you are.

Also your emotions are a whole lot easier to read on this blog. You are the one capitalizing words. Using emotional clicks like whoa

Maybe your not so psychic after all. Just predictable as most followers are.


1. no, because they mrudered fewer people with a bomb than the serial and spree killers who ignite gun control debate, it makes this case irrelevant to the gun control debate

2. no 'they' dont deserve sympathy, but the teen may depending upon what the circumstances of his involvement are

3.in regards to the death penalty for one who murdered others, I dont agree with the death penalty in general because of how much I Feel details matter,, and Ive made no secret of it,,,but ESPECIALLY in cases of duress where I feel legal precedent backs me up on what constitutes murder of the death penalty type from others

4. there is no 'im black' card, I believe someone compared me to miss cleo of which the only obvious similarity is that we are both black

5. emotional clickes like whoa and capitalizing words are just as easy to read as using words like 'coldblooded' and using insults like falling off a cliff and having difficulty putting 2 and 2 together. takes one to know one,,,,seems like emotions on both sides, but IM just trying to interject LOGIC In WITH THE EMOTION.

6. Im no more pyschic or predictable than anyone else posting with the desire to just see more death/revenge.



Well if you don't believe in the death penalty, You are certainly entitled to that opinion. Perhaps you'll change your mind if god forbid some personal tragedy should happen to a loved one. At the hands of some psycho murderer, bomber or otherwise. Maybe you'd change your tune if someone you knew was at that marathon.

The miss Cleo reference is because you apparently think you can read emotion on a blog. Would you prefer, a reference to a gypsy fortune teller? its all the same to me. I'll change it for you.

In reference to using logic..
(1) They were armed
(2) They hurled bullets and bombs at police
(3) They broke into someones boat while they were armed.
(4) You claim this has nothing to do with gun control. Nor with the defense of a firearm.

That's about the most illogical argument ive ever heard.

Lastly you claim he should not have sympathy, Yet you defend his actions by saying he was under mind control by the older brother.

You contradict yourself my dear. I don't have to do anything emotional or otherwise. To debunk what you are saying. You are doing a fine job yourself.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:37 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 04/21/13 03:39 PM


whoa













If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.



these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'



So because they murdered fewer people than some serial killers, Means to you that they should receive sympathy?

In regards to calling for death, On a man who murdered many people isn't an emotional response. There is a much better suited word for that its called "Justice"

Also I know its the in thing, To pull the "im black" card when someone calls you out on your B.S. However when your wrong, Your'e wrong. Whatever race, creed, or color that you are.

Also your emotions are a whole lot easier to read on this blog. You are the one capitalizing words. Using emotional clicks like whoa

Maybe your not so psychic after all. Just predictable as most followers are.


1. no, because they mrudered fewer people with a bomb than the serial and spree killers who ignite gun control debate, it makes this case irrelevant to the gun control debate

2. no 'they' dont deserve sympathy, but the teen may depending upon what the circumstances of his involvement are

3.in regards to the death penalty for one who murdered others, I dont agree with the death penalty in general because of how much I Feel details matter,, and Ive made no secret of it,,,but ESPECIALLY in cases of duress where I feel legal precedent backs me up on what constitutes murder of the death penalty type from others

4. there is no 'im black' card, I believe someone compared me to miss cleo of which the only obvious similarity is that we are both black

5. emotional clickes like whoa and capitalizing words are just as easy to read as using words like 'coldblooded' and using insults like falling off a cliff and having difficulty putting 2 and 2 together. takes one to know one,,,,seems like emotions on both sides, but IM just trying to interject LOGIC In WITH THE EMOTION.

6. Im no more pyschic or predictable than anyone else posting with the desire to just see more death/revenge.



Well if you don't believe in the death penalty, You are certainly entitled to that opinion. Perhaps you'll change your mind if god forbid some personal tragedy should happen to a loved one. At the hands of some psycho murderer, bomber or otherwise. Maybe you'd change your tune if someone you knew was at that marathon.

The miss Cleo reference is because you apparently think you can read emotion on a blog. Would you prefer, a reference to a gypsy fortune teller? its all the same to me. I'll change it for you.

In reference to using logic..
(1) They were armed
(2) They hurled bullets and bombs at police
(3) They broke into someones boat while they were armed.
(4) You claim this has nothing to do with gun control. Nor with the defense of a firearm.

That's about the most illogical argument ive ever heard.

Lastly you claim he should not have sympathy, Yet you defend his actions by saying he was under mind control by the older brother.

You contradict yourself my dear. I don't have to do anything emotional or otherwise. To debunk what you are saying. You are doing a fine job yourself.



the added statement 'you do kind of look like miss Cleo' is a strict reference to what I look like, and the only similar asthetic I have to miss cleo is being black,,,but in any case

no , you miss basic grammar my dear, there is a difference between 'they' and 'he'

this debate makes both people identical, my logic entertains the idea that they were two seperate INDIVIDUALS, with different pathology and motivation,,,,the potential for duress being one of those motivss, makes a difference to me

let me paint the difference,, if two people break into a party and shoot two people, and then put the gun to your teen head, hand you a gun, and tell you to choose to shoot someone or die, and you shoot someone

are you just as 'cold blooded' as the people who implemented the plan to kill and include you in the killing?

there is a thing called duress , there are things called motive and pathology to which duress applies,,,



that is no contradiction,,,,

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:44 PM
I am cold blooded. That is what it takes to kill. Veteran, remember? You have to be somewhat cold blooded because that is someone's family member you killed that loves them and possibly needs them. It takes just a little pull of the trigger. Or the planting of a mass explosion device.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:48 PM

I am cold blooded. That is what it takes to kill. Veteran, remember? You have to be somewhat cold blooded because that is someone's family member you killed that loves them and possibly needs them. It takes just a little pull of the trigger. Or the planting of a mass explosion device.



I dont agree it takes coldbloodedness to kill, self preservation is a strong motivation for killing (as in kill or be killed), I think killing for NO reason, when ones life is not in danger , is what is cold blooded

no photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:51 PM
Well if you don't believe in the death penalty, You are certainly entitled to that opinion. Perhaps you'll change your mind if god forbid some personal tragedy should happen to a loved one. At the hands of some psycho murderer, bomber or otherwise. Maybe you'd change your tune if someone you knew was at that marathon.



Extreme;

So do you think that people will (or should) change their basic beliefs if and when it becomes personal to them?

Do you think a person would change their mind about the death penalty simply if someone they knew was at the marathon? Suddenly they would be traumatized to now start demanding the death penalty?

If so, then you don't have a lot of respect for a person's core belief system and perhaps you believe that people can be (or should be) persuaded with the use of emotionalism.

One of my pet peeves are politicians and media whores who use emotionalism and exploit the grieving parents of victims to push their agendas into the faces of the public.

Important decisions should be well thought out, not manipulated with emotionalism and sensationalism.

When anyone tries to use emotionalism to manipulate or persuade someone else or the public or to change their mind or attempt to cause some reaction that they want, I automatically hear warning bells going off in my brain.

Don't be manipulated. Using emotions to manipulate others is a cheap shot and no one should fall for it. Unfortunately, many people will.

They all seem to love the drama.








no photo
Sun 04/21/13 03:55 PM



whoa













If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..






not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,


but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,




Bombs?

I am talking about when they were on the lamb.. Running from the cops. Shooting it out in the streets.

You know.. the manhunt..

When the one escaped they locked the city down told the sheeple to stay indoors and shelter in place..

1. If you had a weapon you could at least attempt to defend yourself if that clown kicked in your door..

2. If you didn't I guess you would have been $hit out of luck..

Obama and his liberal cohorts would prefer #2..

As far as your thoughts on them being immigrants vs natural born..

Not really relevant since they were immigrants and not natural born..

Obama and his cohorts are trying to give natural born citizens rights?

You want me to answer that one for you?

NO





alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case





Didn't happen? They had a shootout with police, while running around armed through peoples neighborhoods. You don't see the relevance to that and protecting your life with a firearm while they were at large? Some people are so far to the left, They fell off the cliff. Then landed in Al Sharpton's lap. When you can't make a simple connection like this. This is right up there with the liberal media saying "Lets hope its a white guy who did this" before they caught the Jihadist perpetrators. Not only was it insulting, But just as ridiculous as this. Can you say brainwashed?



SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

The perps were armed! Should it matter that they were caught before they had a chance to gun down any innocent people? The potential for death was eminent. Or do you feel they needed to shoot someone to make you open your eyes? I guess its a little difficult for someone to put 2 and 2 together, When your hero is someone who can't solve a 7th grade math problem.


no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

You don't know who this hero is? ok lol. No evidence they planned to gun people down? I guess the people they bombed before hand, Are no indicator these men were killers. Also I'm sure it would have just been to much trouble for these men to go to the F.B.I. and simply say.. "We need help! There is a group of brainwashed Al Qaida operatives forcing us to kill people" Yes I guess the witness protection program is overrated. Let's just all hold hands, Light a candle for the dead. Then grant this killer amnesty, Or better yet sit back and do nothing like Ben Ghazi. I wonder, Is there a limit to this B.S.?



bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,whoa


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

Let me get this straight, These men after murdering people with a bomb. Whom were carrying guns for their own protection against capture as you say. In your opinion were not ready to kill, Oh say Law enforcement, innocent people who got in their way, Or murdering someone in their home after they break down the door or in their case breaking into a boat. Should they have been in their way? The fact that an armed person in their home would have been able to defend themselves against this, Does not register in your mind?

Then the question of a dominant brother, You mean to tell me this non self sacrificing teen. Should receive sympathy because he chose to murder many people as opposed to turning in his brother?

In regards to getting emotional, Please explain to me. How you can read emotion on a written blog post. Without having the person in front of you to decipher their emotional reactions.

Maybe you should or do work for the psychic hotline. Oh wait you do kind of look like miss Cleo.



these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'



So because they murdered fewer people than some serial killers, Means to you that they should receive sympathy?

In regards to calling for death, On a man who murdered many people isn't an emotional response. There is a much better suited word for that its called "Justice"

Also I know its the in thing, To pull the "im black" card when someone calls you out on your B.S. However when your wrong, Your'e wrong. Whatever race, creed, or color that you are.

Also your emotions are a whole lot easier to read on this blog. You are the one capitalizing words. Using emotional clicks like whoa

Maybe your not so psychic after all. Just predictable as most followers are.


1. no, because they mrudered fewer people with a bomb than the serial and spree killers who ignite gun control debate, it makes this case irrelevant to the gun control debate

2. no 'they' dont deserve sympathy, but the teen may depending upon what the circumstances of his involvement are

3.in regards to the death penalty for one who murdered others, I dont agree with the death penalty in general because of how much I Feel details matter,, and Ive made no secret of it,,,but ESPECIALLY in cases of duress where I feel legal precedent backs me up on what constitutes murder of the death penalty type from others

4. there is no 'im black' card, I believe someone compared me to miss cleo of which the only obvious similarity is that we are both black

5. emotional clickes like whoa and capitalizing words are just as easy to read as using words like 'coldblooded' and using insults like falling off a cliff and having difficulty putting 2 and 2 together. takes one to know one,,,,seems like emotions on both sides, but IM just trying to interject LOGIC In WITH THE EMOTION.

6. Im no more pyschic or predictable than anyone else posting with the desire to just see more death/revenge.



Well if you don't believe in the death penalty, You are certainly entitled to that opinion. Perhaps you'll change your mind if god forbid some personal tragedy should happen to a loved one. At the hands of some psycho murderer, bomber or otherwise. Maybe you'd change your tune if someone you knew was at that marathon.

The miss Cleo reference is because you apparently think you can read emotion on a blog. Would you prefer, a reference to a gypsy fortune teller? its all the same to me. I'll change it for you.

In reference to using logic..
(1) They were armed
(2) They hurled bullets and bombs at police
(3) They broke into someones boat while they were armed.
(4) You claim this has nothing to do with gun control. Nor with the defense of a firearm.

That's about the most illogical argument ive ever heard.

Lastly you claim he should not have sympathy, Yet you defend his actions by saying he was under mind control by the older brother.

You contradict yourself my dear. I don't have to do anything emotional or otherwise. To debunk what you are saying. You are doing a fine job yourself.



the added statement 'you do kind of look like miss Cleo' is a strict reference to what I look like, and the only similar asthetic I have to miss cleo is being black,,,but in any case

no , you miss basic grammar my dear, there is a difference between 'they' and 'he'

this debate makes both people identical, my logic entertains the idea that they were two seperate INDIVIDUALS, with different pathology and motivation,,,,the potential for duress being one of those motivss, makes a difference to me

let me paint the difference,, if two people break into a party and shoot two people, and then put the gun to your teen head, hand you a gun, and tell you to choose to shoot someone or die, and you shoot someone

are you just as 'cold blooded' as the people who implemented the plan to kill and include you in the killing?

there is a thing called duress , there are things called motive and pathology to which duress applies,,,



that is no contradiction,,,,


Sure there is, For one they weren't in an enclosed party. They were out in public. At any given time the brother or brothers could have chosen to go to law enforcement and refrain from the evil they were going to do. They did not. The fact He or they chose to kill. Makes them not a victim. More like a murderer.

Personally if I were at a party under the above mentioned circumstances. I'd turn the gun handed to me on the people who are attempting to force me to kill innocent people.

I guess that's the difference between someone trained in the use of firearms. As opposed to, Well someone who just chooses to be a victim.

Also before you attempt to correct someone else's grammar, You might want to consider that Capitalization. Should come at the beginning of a sentence. Not with random words in a paragraph.

Miss Cleo is black. You are right about that, Also I did make reference to you looking like her. If you can't see the reason behind it was because you think you can read minds. Then go ahead and play the race card. Anyone else reading this would know better.

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Sun 04/21/13 03:58 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 04/21/13 04:00 PM

I am cold blooded. That is what it takes to kill. Veteran, remember? You have to be somewhat cold blooded because that is someone's family member you killed that loves them and possibly needs them. It takes just a little pull of the trigger. Or the planting of a mass explosion device.



I think a person has to be both compassionate and detached from emotional manipulation.

If you have to kill someone, you have to be detached. Being detached is different from being cold blooded.

A cold blooded killer can kill for no good reason and have no emotions or feelings about it one way or another. He may even enjoy it.

You can kill without being cold blooded.

I saw a movie once where a woman said she killed her boyfriend because he was a cold blooded killer. She also killed two witnesses to the crime.

When someone asked her what the difference was between her and him, she said, "I felt terrible about it. He felt nothing at all."

That's how she saw it.


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Sun 04/21/13 03:59 PM
noone knows how they will feel until it happens, its alot of second guessing that goes on in these emotional debates

however, I do agree with jeannie, that most peoples core beliefs (if they have integrity) are their beliefs regardless of who the persons involved are

I am one who believes in the details, when the details are the same, regardless of who is involved, the 'morality' is the same,, if its wrong for me to do it, its wrong for someone else to do it UNDER THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES

I have heard a pov from others that rapists be castrated or killed, and yet I dont believe in premeditated and intentional harm of others , even as a rape victim myself, I would not change my view of what is humane and civil treatment of 'rapists',,,,

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Sun 04/21/13 04:04 PM


I am cold blooded. That is what it takes to kill. Veteran, remember? You have to be somewhat cold blooded because that is someone's family member you killed that loves them and possibly needs them. It takes just a little pull of the trigger. Or the planting of a mass explosion device.



I dont agree it takes coldbloodedness to kill, self preservation is a strong motivation for killing (as in kill or be killed), I think killing for NO reason, when ones life is not in danger , is what is cold blooded



BOTH brothers partook in killing when their lives were not in danger. Oh, but you are saying the younger one was doing so out of self-preservation from the 'bad guys?'