it isnt unjust, it just isnt christ like

christ apparently had a problem with putting people to death for their sins,,,,,and so do I,,,,,,,as a human with christian love for others,,,,

yes, thats why I want desperately to leave las vegas too,,,,

if someone walks in and shoots up people at their place of employment this sunday,, it wouldnt be christlike, although God also commanded those working on the sabbath be put to death

those laws pertainted to a SPECIFIC time and culture, they are not the christlike behaviors that are expected out of the sacrifice christ made on the cross

Nowhere in the New Testament does Jesus speak against a civil government executing murderers.

You are reading into the New Testament something that isn't there.

nowhere does he agree to do it or participate in it either, and in fact, being without sin himself he still chooses not to when asked specifically to follow that law against an adulteress,,,

nowhere does he agree to do it either, and in fact, chooses not to when asked specifically to follow that law against an adulteress,,,

Sadly, you are making a straw-man argument.

Here is John 8:1-6 (ESV):



The sentence in bold print states the reason why the Pharisees brought the woman to Jesus. They were using her as a pawn in an attempt to trap Jesus legally.

In his commentary about the above-quoted passage, New Testament theologian William Barclay says the following:



The men who brought the woman to Jesus were nothing but a group of vigilantes. They didn't have the legal authority to put the woman to death. Only the Roman-run civil government had that authority, and Jesus knew that. So, it made sense for Jesus not to advocate a violation of Roman law. However, he had to object to a violation of Roman law in a way that didn't violate Mosaic Law, which is what he did.

In no way does John 8:1-11 indicate that Jesus objected to capital punishment for people who deliberately commit murder. If he had done so, then he would have been abolishing Mosaic Law. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."(ESV)



Quote Source:
William Barclay, The Gospel of John, Volume Two, The New Daily Study Bible (Westminster John Knox Press: 2001), p. 3.

Christ said himself in Matthew that He did not come to change or get rid the law.



Now Christ did not like the misuse of the law to kill a person and not another. In other words, picking and choosing what parts to fallow.



Jesus did not participate in this because they were not keeping the law.

The law stated


The scribes and Pharisees only brought the woman but the law also requires the man that was involved. Jesus is God (John 1:1, 1:14) and God does not change (Malachi 3:6)

Now there are a few mistranslation that get people confused.


The word “kill” here is “phoneuo” in the Greek which means “murder”

In California, they are trying to closed down the best performing schools and force those students to attend the failing public schools. It is all about the money. The failing public schools wants to get all those dollars even though the private charter school are teaching the children a fraction of what it cost the public. The complain that a person is making a profit at the private school instead of the public school greasing the pawns of their buddies.

New Reports
http://youtu.be/IpVVL3eEy-E
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http://youtu.be/5u2es5jHjDY


Video from the meetings
http://youtu.be/0DqcdpC53Wg
http://youtu.be/73lHh-rw3Bc

the beauty of the bible, different people get different things from them

odd how jesus did not ask them to also bring the man,, so the law could be strictly followed

and nowhere in those laws was moses asked to tell the GOVERNMENT, he was told to tell the people,, whose 'authority' it is is personal and subjective interpretation,,,,

instead Jesus showed EMPATHY and love,, which is the greatest commandment, for the woman, by not choosing her death,,,

msharmony, in my last post, I demonstrate why your argument is flawed.

Yes, and thank you Doo doo.

Sorry, I mean Dodo.

In February, Texas Gov. Rick Perry began running radio ads in California encouraging businesses to make a move to Texas, with a lure of lower regulations, lower taxes, and less red tape.
For one California business owner, the ads worked.
"We're here today to officially welcome Shield Tactical to the Lone Star State,” said Perry.
Shield Tactical called Orange County home until a few months ago. The firearms accessories company new home is Shiner, Texas, and received a personal welcome from Perry on Wednesday.
"The acceptance that we've gotten, the welcome that we've gotten from Texans; the appreciation … the fact that they recognize what it meant for us, because it wasn’t easy to move,” said John Harrington, president of Shield Tactical.
Harrington said the move was an easy decision, allowing him to bypass what he called the state of California’s red tape.
"There's nothing about California preventing it from following what we do here in the state of Texas,” said Perry as he spoke to onlookers in Shiner.
Perry described Texas as business-friendly, free of over taxation and regulation, and a haven of sorts for those in the firearm industry, like Shield Tactical.
"The second amendment still means something here in Texas and we will defend their right to manufacture (firearms),” said Perry.
In the end, many of Harrington’s employees also followed the company to Texas.
"We knew in Texas, our dollar would take us further,” said Matt Hollinger, who works at Shield Tactical.
For Shiner’s part, the small town was chosen because Harrington said it represented “small-town Texas” and offered a location close to Austin, San Antonio, and Houston. Harrington also believed they would not be the last California transfer.
"I think people will be surprised at who follows us out of California."
http://www.kltv.com/story/22133717/gov-rick-perry-welcomes-shield-tactical-to-texas

I lived in Texas and it sucks. But I can't speak on California, never been there.

Yea the lack of regulations in Texas is a good thing though, right? Not. You can't go to work and know you are safe. You can't live in a home and know it was built right because they don't regulate.

what argument? I am only stating that I don't agree with the death penalty,, and I don't believe Jesus would agree with any sinful human casting the stone either,,,,but that's just me

You argued that Jesus was opposed to someone being given the death penalty. I merely pointed out that your argument (or opinion, as you label it) is not supported by the Bible.

with all the scripture available, I think yours is a subjective opinion, as is mine

scripture about killers being judged, and imploring that said judgement by MEN Be made by those 'without sin',, to me

support that he would not agree with MEN killing each other , even for the death penalty,,,,but would support Gods judgement and mans love and forgiveness instead,,,,,

California is not a nation.

I notice the education levels were not compared...lol (teasing u)

people who oppose a resaonable amount of regulation to protect the public interest are highly suspect IMO