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yes, african american is also a race, its the race of black folks who happen to be geographically inside of the US its still implying that the race is the factor, and not the combination of conditions and factors affecting those groups cited about its a false logic, and still totally irrelevant to whether I choose to be in a state where gun ownership is high,, being texas has about a 11 percent black population, Id say race is irrelevant to my reasons for not wanting to live there or to the CUTLTURE which seems to embrace and need so many guns,,,, I knew and African that was white back in college. If she were to become a citizen of the USA she would be a true African American. Neither Africa nor America is a race or skin color. If you go to Africa you will find different races with different skin colors there. I also new a black girl that would chew you out if you called her an African American. She would make it clear that she was not one of them but her bloodline was from another place. Also, many Asian Indians from the sub part of India are black skin as well. in this conversation, do you believe that white girl from from africa was one of the 'african americans' being referred to? Im sure she wasnt,,,,race and ethnicity are interchangable in terms of context,, individuals can share with us what their actual 'race' is, because only they can know their biological background,, IM sure we see plenty of people we assume are 'white' throughout life who may in fact have ancestry of african origin,,,and we may see some that have no african origin that we assume are 'black' in conversations about crime however, 'african american' usually is referring to black people in america,,,,, the real African Americans should be mad about every black person using that term... most American blacks never came close to ever seeing Africa, let alone being from there... african american is about ancestry, real african americans are proud enough to be from africa, why should they be upset about their cousins using the term 'african american'? they arent claiming to be african,, its a different term,, no, blacks are using it to separate themselves... everyone here came from somewhere else... (even the Indians)... born here = American... Should i call myself a Finnish American, even tho i have never even thought of going to Finland? |
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yes, african american is also a race, its the race of black folks who happen to be geographically inside of the US its still implying that the race is the factor, and not the combination of conditions and factors affecting those groups cited about its a false logic, and still totally irrelevant to whether I choose to be in a state where gun ownership is high,, being texas has about a 11 percent black population, Id say race is irrelevant to my reasons for not wanting to live there or to the CUTLTURE which seems to embrace and need so many guns,,,, I knew and African that was white back in college. If she were to become a citizen of the USA she would be a true African American. Neither Africa nor America is a race or skin color. If you go to Africa you will find different races with different skin colors there. I also new a black girl that would chew you out if you called her an African American. She would make it clear that she was not one of them but her bloodline was from another place. Also, many Asian Indians from the sub part of India are black skin as well. in this conversation, do you believe that white girl from from africa was one of the 'african americans' being referred to? Im sure she wasnt,,,,race and ethnicity are interchangable in terms of context,, individuals can share with us what their actual 'race' is, because only they can know their biological background,, IM sure we see plenty of people we assume are 'white' throughout life who may in fact have ancestry of african origin,,,and we may see some that have no african origin that we assume are 'black' in conversations about crime however, 'african american' usually is referring to black people in america,,,,, the real African Americans should be mad about every black person using that term... most American blacks never came close to ever seeing Africa, let alone being from there... african american is about ancestry, real african americans are proud enough to be from africa, why should they be upset about their cousins using the term 'african american'? they arent claiming to be african,, its a different term,, no, blacks are using it to separate themselves... everyone here came from somewhere else... (even the Indians)... born here = American... Should i call myself a Finnish American, even tho i have never even thought of going to Finland? you are free to call yourself whatever you wish I think many 'blacks' for centuries didnt feel and werent treated 'american' ,, didnt care for the context of NEGRO or Ni66er, so they chose a term that identified their ancestry before they were second class servants in this country,,,,,and thats their right and now, they have whatever reasons they have to prefer the term they prefer 'black', for me, almost always is contextually a negative word, and the vast majority of my race I see in america is no where near the color BLACK,,, so I dont care for the term my absolute first preference is 'woman of color', but that honestly includes all non white races, so its not very specific racially that leads to my second preference 'african american', it identifies my ancestry while also identifying my nationality,, kind of like when our family has reunions and we use the name of a great great great common ancestor,,,,, |
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yes, african american is also a race, its the race of black folks who happen to be geographically inside of the US its still implying that the race is the factor, and not the combination of conditions and factors affecting those groups cited about its a false logic, and still totally irrelevant to whether I choose to be in a state where gun ownership is high,, being texas has about a 11 percent black population, Id say race is irrelevant to my reasons for not wanting to live there or to the CUTLTURE which seems to embrace and need so many guns,,,, I knew and African that was white back in college. If she were to become a citizen of the USA she would be a true African American. Neither Africa nor America is a race or skin color. If you go to Africa you will find different races with different skin colors there. I also new a black girl that would chew you out if you called her an African American. She would make it clear that she was not one of them but her bloodline was from another place. Also, many Asian Indians from the sub part of India are black skin as well. in this conversation, do you believe that white girl from from africa was one of the 'african americans' being referred to? Im sure she wasnt,,,,race and ethnicity are interchangable in terms of context,, individuals can share with us what their actual 'race' is, because only they can know their biological background,, IM sure we see plenty of people we assume are 'white' throughout life who may in fact have ancestry of african origin,,,and we may see some that have no african origin that we assume are 'black' in conversations about crime however, 'african american' usually is referring to black people in america,,,,, the real African Americans should be mad about every black person using that term... most American blacks never came close to ever seeing Africa, let alone being from there... african american is about ancestry, real african americans are proud enough to be from africa, why should they be upset about their cousins using the term 'african american'? they arent claiming to be african,, its a different term,, no, blacks are using it to separate themselves... everyone here came from somewhere else... (even the Indians)... born here = American... Should i call myself a Finnish American, even tho i have never even thought of going to Finland? you are free to call yourself whatever you wish I think many 'blacks' for centuries didnt feel and werent treated 'american' ,, didnt care for the context of NEGRO or Ni66er, so they chose a term that identified their ancestry before they were second class servants in this country,,,,,and thats their right and now, they have whatever reasons they have to prefer the term they prefer 'black', for me, almost always is contextually a negative word, and the vast majority of my race I see in america is no where near the color BLACK,,, so I dont care for the term my absolute first preference is 'woman of color', but that honestly includes all non white races, so its not very specific racially that leads to my second preference 'african american', it identifies my ancestry while also identifying my nationality,, kind of like when our family has reunions and we use the name of a great great great common ancestor,,,,, woman of color has a nice ring to it... kind of mysterious, no one knows where your from....  
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african american is about ancestry, real african americans are proud enough to be from africa, why should they be upset about their cousins using the term 'african american'? they arent claiming to be african,, its a different term,,
Point back to this. http://news.yahoo.com/blacks-insist-im-not-african-american-181257715.html
What are you? Where are you from? And how do you fit into this country? "I prefer to be called black," said Shawn Smith, an accountant from Houston. "How I really feel is, I'm American." "I don't like African-American. It denotes something else to me than who I am," said Smith, whose parents are from Mississippi and North Carolina. "I can't recall any of them telling me anything about Africa. They told me a whole lot about where they grew up in Macomb County and Shelby, N.C." Gibré George, an entrepreneur from Miami, started a Facebook page called "Don't Call Me African-American" on a whim. It now has about 300 "likes." "We respect our African heritage, but that term is not really us," George said. "We're several generations down the line. If anyone were to ship us back to Africa, we'd be like fish out of water." "It just doesn't sit well with a younger generation of black people," continued George, who is 38. "Africa was a long time ago. Are we always going to be tethered to Africa? Spiritually I'm American. When the war starts, I'm fighting for America." Joan Morgan, a writer born in Jamaica who moved to New York City as a girl, remembers the first time she publicly corrected someone about the term: at a book signing, when she was introduced as African-American and her family members in the front rows were appalled and hurt. "That act of calling me African-American completely erased their history and the sacrifice and contributions it took to make me an author," said Morgan, a longtime U.S. citizen who calls herself Black-Caribbean American. (Some insist Black should be capitalized.) If you talk about ancestry, some believe that all races came from Africa so should we all becalled Aficans. http://youtu.be/48nlOiGFDgY http://www.adversity.net/FRAMES/Editorials/54_Paler_Shade_of_Black.htm
So where did the 10,000+ shades of paler brown, beige, pink, white and what Crayola crayons used to call "flesh" come from? Archaeological data places the origin of genetically modern humans in sub-Saharan Africa approximately 140,000 years ago. Humans then began migrating out of Africa in successive waves, starting approximately 100,000 years or 5000 generations ago. Now that scientists have mapped the human genome, they are homing in on when each wave began their outward bound journey and where they migrated to. So far they have confirmed that everyone on the entire planet, even the 1.3 billion Chinese, have a common ancestor back in Africa. |
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yep, people have different personal preferences when it comes to racial labels,,,
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african american is about ancestry, real african americans are proud enough to be from africa, why should they be upset about their cousins using the term 'african american'? they arent claiming to be african,, its a different term,,
Point back to this. http://news.yahoo.com/blacks-insist-im-not-african-american-181257715.html
What are you? Where are you from? And how do you fit into this country? "I prefer to be called black," said Shawn Smith, an accountant from Houston. "How I really feel is, I'm American." "I don't like African-American. It denotes something else to me than who I am," said Smith, whose parents are from Mississippi and North Carolina. "I can't recall any of them telling me anything about Africa. They told me a whole lot about where they grew up in Macomb County and Shelby, N.C." Gibré George, an entrepreneur from Miami, started a Facebook page called "Don't Call Me African-American" on a whim. It now has about 300 "likes." "We respect our African heritage, but that term is not really us," George said. "We're several generations down the line. If anyone were to ship us back to Africa, we'd be like fish out of water." "It just doesn't sit well with a younger generation of black people," continued George, who is 38. "Africa was a long time ago. Are we always going to be tethered to Africa? Spiritually I'm American. When the war starts, I'm fighting for America." Joan Morgan, a writer born in Jamaica who moved to New York City as a girl, remembers the first time she publicly corrected someone about the term: at a book signing, when she was introduced as African-American and her family members in the front rows were appalled and hurt. "That act of calling me African-American completely erased their history and the sacrifice and contributions it took to make me an author," said Morgan, a longtime U.S. citizen who calls herself Black-Caribbean American. (Some insist Black should be capitalized.) If you talk about ancestry, some believe that all races came from Africa so should we all becalled Aficans. http://youtu.be/48nlOiGFDgY http://www.adversity.net/FRAMES/Editorials/54_Paler_Shade_of_Black.htm
So where did the 10,000+ shades of paler brown, beige, pink, white and what Crayola crayons used to call "flesh" come from? Archaeological data places the origin of genetically modern humans in sub-Saharan Africa approximately 140,000 years ago. Humans then began migrating out of Africa in successive waves, starting approximately 100,000 years or 5000 generations ago. Now that scientists have mapped the human genome, they are homing in on when each wave began their outward bound journey and where they migrated to. So far they have confirmed that everyone on the entire planet, even the 1.3 billion Chinese, have a common ancestor back in Africa. that's the currant theory accepted now... they believe the dark skinned was the first to evolve, and turned lighter as the migrated to cooler climates... but that doesn't account for hair and facial changes...(Asians) |
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Gun-related violence in the USA isn't a racial issue. There is no correlation between the rate of violent crimes committed with guns and the race of the people committing violent crimes.
Anyway, getting back to the original topic, Texas isn't less-safe than California because Texas has a higher rate of legal gun-ownership. According to FBI statistics for the year 2010, California had 1,811 murders that year, with 1,257 of those murders involving firearms. During the same year, Texas had 356 murders, with 219 of them involving firearms. So, when one compares murder statistics for Texas with murder statistics for California, it appears that Texas is the safer state. |
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There are only a couple places in Texas that I'd have any desire to visit - Austin and San Antonio. I've heard good things about both.
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Gun-related violence in the USA isn't a racial issue. There is no correlation between the rate of violent crimes committed with guns and the race of the people committing violent crimes. Anyway, getting back to the original topic, Texas isn't less-safe than California because Texas has a higher rate of legal gun-ownership. According to FBI statistics for the year 2010, California had 1,811 murders that year, with 1,257 of those murders involving firearms. During the same year, Texas had 356 murders, with 219 of them involving firearms. So, when one compares murder statistics for Texas with murder statistics for California, it appears that Texas is the safer state. according to your link texas had 1246 murders of which 805 were firearm deaths not much of a difference from the murders in california,,,,, but murder only applies to killings that are judged to be 'illegal' and doesnt account for all the killing that is justified,,,,by laws,,,, |
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There are only a couple places in Texas that I'd have any desire to visit - Austin and San Antonio. I've heard good things about both. both are great places, but Texas is a big state, lots to see and do here... when you get tired of the zub zero temps in MD, you can always enjoy 50-70 degree temps here... |
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Gun-related violence in the USA isn't a racial issue. There is no correlation between the rate of violent crimes committed with guns and the race of the people committing violent crimes. Anyway, getting back to the original topic, Texas isn't less-safe than California because Texas has a higher rate of legal gun-ownership. According to FBI statistics for the year 2010, California had 1,811 murders that year, with 1,257 of those murders involving firearms. During the same year, Texas had 356 murders, with 219 of them involving firearms. So, when one compares murder statistics for Texas with murder statistics for California, it appears that Texas is the safer state. according to your link texas had 1246 murders of which 805 were firearm deaths not much of a difference from the murders in california,,,,, You are correct. I accidentally copied the murder statistic for Tennessee.  
but murder only applies to killings that are judged to be 'illegal' and doesnt account for all the killing that is justified,,,,by laws,,,,
So, do you have a problem with justifiable killing? I hope not, because in the Old Testament book of Exodus, it is justifiable to execute someone who has committed murder. Now, if Mosaic Law reflects the instructions that the Lord God gave to Moses, then the Lord God declared that certain executions were justified. Are you going to say that the Lord God was wrong to instruct the Israelites to execute murderers? |
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Gun-related violence in the USA isn't a racial issue. There is no correlation between the rate of violent crimes committed with guns and the race of the people committing violent crimes. Anyway, getting back to the original topic, Texas isn't less-safe than California because Texas has a higher rate of legal gun-ownership. According to FBI statistics for the year 2010, California had 1,811 murders that year, with 1,257 of those murders involving firearms. During the same year, Texas had 356 murders, with 219 of them involving firearms. So, when one compares murder statistics for Texas with murder statistics for California, it appears that Texas is the safer state. according to your link texas had 1246 murders of which 805 were firearm deaths not much of a difference from the murders in california,,,,, You are correct. I accidentally copied the murder statistic for Tennessee.
but murder only applies to killings that are judged to be 'illegal' and doesnt account for all the killing that is justified,,,,by laws,,,,
So, do you have a problem with justifiable killing? I hope not, because in the Old Testament book of Exodus, it is justifiable to execute someone who has committed murder. Now, if Mosaic Law reflects the instructions that the Lord God gave to Moses, then the Lord God declared that certain executions were justified. Are you going to say that the Lord God was wrong to instruct the Israelites to execute murderers? wow,,all this because I choose not to live in Texas? ok, so there are Gods laws and there are Mans laws,, I dont have a problem with justified killing by Gods laws, I do have a problem with what mans laws consider to be justiried |
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imho, looking over the thread, it seems the people siding with texas actually live in texas, while the people siding with california live in other states...
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imho, looking over the thread, it seems the people siding with texas actually live in texas, while the people siding with california live in other states... that would make sense, texans supporting texas that is,,, |
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imho, looking over the thread, it seems the people siding with texas actually live in texas, while the people siding with california live in other states... that would make sense, texans supporting texas that is,,, it's hard to imagine what Texas really is without ever being here... it's not for everyone, and if there was anyway to get less people moving here, I'd be all for it... |
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imho, looking over the thread, it seems the people siding with texas actually live in texas, while the people siding with california live in other states... that would make sense, texans supporting texas that is,,, so if california is so much better than texas, why aren't those people saying so living in california... |
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There are only a couple places in Texas that I'd have any desire to visit - Austin and San Antonio. I've heard good things about both. both are great places, but Texas is a big state, lots to see and do here... when you get tired of the zub zero temps in MD, you can always enjoy 50-70 degree temps here... thanks to mingle, you would have plenty of tour guides available no matter what part of texas you visit. texas is the friendly state |
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imho, looking over the thread, it seems the people siding with texas actually live in texas, while the people siding with california live in other states... that would make sense, texans supporting texas that is,,, so if california is so much better than texas, why aren't those people saying so living in california... perhaps there are fewer california residents posting in this thread,,,,no indication of which state is better |
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Gun-related violence in the USA isn't a racial issue. There is no correlation between the rate of violent crimes committed with guns and the race of the people committing violent crimes. Anyway, getting back to the original topic, Texas isn't less-safe than California because Texas has a higher rate of legal gun-ownership. According to FBI statistics for the year 2010, California had 1,811 murders that year, with 1,257 of those murders involving firearms. During the same year, Texas had 356 murders, with 219 of them involving firearms. So, when one compares murder statistics for Texas with murder statistics for California, it appears that Texas is the safer state. according to your link texas had 1246 murders of which 805 were firearm deaths not much of a difference from the murders in california,,,,, You are correct. I accidentally copied the murder statistic for Tennessee.
but murder only applies to killings that are judged to be 'illegal' and doesnt account for all the killing that is justified,,,,by laws,,,,
So, do you have a problem with justifiable killing? I hope not, because in the Old Testament book of Exodus, it is justifiable to execute someone who has committed murder. Now, if Mosaic Law reflects the instructions that the Lord God gave to Moses, then the Lord God declared that certain executions were justified. Are you going to say that the Lord God was wrong to instruct the Israelites to execute murderers? wow,,all this because I choose not to live in Texas? ok, so there are Gods laws and there are Mans laws,, I dont have a problem with justified killing by Gods laws, I do have a problem with what mans laws consider to be justiried Why, then, do you not express displeasure with the justified killings that take place in California? Again, you have not demonstrated that Texas is more dangerous than California because Texas has a higher rate of legal gun-ownership. Sure, you can prefer California over Texas, but the gun issue appears to me to be a bogus issue, because statistically, areas in the USA with low rates of legal gun-ownership are also areas with high rates of gun-related murders. |
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