What does this mean and what do you think will actually happen? Iran just promised to destroy Tel Aviv et.al.

This threat is now six months past the last set of deadlines.
Syria just used gas on their population.

Obama just gave 250 million dollars to the Muslin Brotherhood.

obama is an idiot... unless he is trying to stir the pot to keep the Patriot act in place...

What does it mean? It means what he said. "Do what's necessary." He's not ruling anything out. What will actually happen depends on what's really available at the time that the action must take place. Nukes? Not likely. Land force invasion? Not likely. Diplomatic sanctions? Definitely. Other, covert actions? Possibly.

So, if Syria gassed their population, what's a military strike supposed to look like and do? You need a target, time and expected result. If it's just bombing them because they were bad, then it's no better. If you take out their military assets with wide-spread, coordinated strikes on their military bases, then you open the doors for hostile neighbors to roll in, or possibly another insurgency. Do you really want that? For crying out loud, we helped topple the Egyptian regime, after they slaughtered civilian protestors, and now you're pissed because the new regime has links to the Muslim Brotherhood. There's just no pleasing you Cons!

BTW: Obama didn't give $250 million to the Muslim Brotherhood. It went to the Egyptian government, who's members have links to that organization. I'm not convinced that's all that bad, even if it has that scary word "Muslim" in the name.

You misunderstand my motives and you obviously do not know my position.

I am asking those who think they understand the situation to predict what will happen. I am posting what is the situation right now. I think Obama with do as close to nothing as possible.

You can "spin" all you want but the Muslin Brotherhood has control of the 250 million to do with as they will.

"What's necessary" in Syria and Iran is to leave them alone. An attack on either will result in a global, thermonuclear WWIII.

The actors in the game of brinkmanship are certainly rational enough not to start it deliberately, but they might be stupid enough for a big "OOPS!"

If WWIII starts it will be an accident of miscalculation on the west's part, not that there will be anyone left to care one way or the other.

Global Thermonuclear WWII? Oh c'mon now!!
That is a bit off-scale on the exaggerate-o-meter!



1. Doing what's necessary......(to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon)

This could mean convincing Iran that their nuclear program is counterproductive so Iran itself decides to dismantle their nuclear
weapons development activities or as is most likely appears now...
destroying Iran's nuclear foundry by force.

Sanctions have not made any impact so far on Iran's reckless race to
nuclear weapons grade enriched uranium.

Obama has declared that he is not bluffing and it should be taken as
seriously as G H W Bush's famous "line in the sand" declaration back
in Aug 1990.

Unless Iran changes course dramatically their nuclear program will be
destroyed by force with support from the USA.

2. Doing what's necessary in Syria....(to prevent mass murder of civilians and a radical Islamic takeover in the country)

Immediately following the announcement, the first action taken by Obama
was to have his new Sec of State John Kerry go tell Iraq that the US
expects them to immediately stop allowing Assad forces to resupply Iran
arms through Iraqi airspace and over Iraqi land routes.

The clear indication is that the US could escalate their support of the
anti-Assad forces and work with the rest of the international community
to oust Assad and protect ordinary Syrian citizens. I don't think anyone
reasonable would interpret this as any large scale military deployment
on the part of the US however.

Majority is the word you were looking for!

In case nobody noticed, a line has been drawn in the sand by Russia and China...They aren't bluffing. Anybody wanting to call their "bluff" has to take the responsibility for the consequences, which will probably be a thermonuclear war, possibly limited, but more than likely not.

he can't do what's necessary here
what makes him or anybody else believe that he can do what's necessary over there.. what is definition of necessary to him

I'm still seeing nothing. Is there something I don't see?

Is Korea preventing something?

Still nothing!

The plan is not Obama's. It is the plan of the global Elite.

It is the plan, and I have said this before, to let the Muslim Brotherhood take control of the entire middle east.

Chaos and war will ensue.

We will break oil ties with them and default on our promises and debts to them.

We (America) has its own oil reserves now and we do not need the Middle east's oil.

Oil refineries will burn. Then the world will have to buy oil from America.

They may be required to have American dollars for it, and that will save the value of the dollar.

BUT rumors are that a new dollar, backed by gold (Do we have any real gold? ...maybe paper gold?) will be introduced.

I agree with some of that. I think the dollar is about to fail and hyperinflation will result.

I think the world is going off the US dollar for oil and will replace it with something like the Yang (Chinese) or a combination of other currencies.

We do not have an abundance of oil but we do have an abundance of natural gas. We could have shifted automobile use to NG decades ago and if you do so now, you will pay less than a dollar for a gasoline gallon's worth of energy. We do not have enough oil to export.

I think the crazies in Iran would give up fifty million of their population in trade for wiping Israel off the map. If they get the bomb, that is what I expect them to do.

I expect Obama to make the kind of noise he has been making and do nothing.

We have an ABUNDANCE OF OIL already refined.

The dollar will not be replaced by any Chinese money for buying oil from us anyway. It will depend on who you are buying oil from.

Russia has oil, and it has hooked up with Britain's oil, which is sleeping with America's oil industry (because Britain has invaded America anyway.)

So IF there is a reserve currency for oil it will be OURS.

We do NOT have an abundance of refined oil. That is just silly. If we switched fuels to Natural Gas, we might be able to keep up with our own needs for oil with Canada's help.

Where did you come up with the "refined oil" story?

This is pretty comical..

Links to the muslim brotherhood?

Mohamed Morsi is the Muslim Brotherhood.

Morsi was a Member of Parliament in the People's Assembly of Egypt from 2000 to 2005, and a leading member in the Muslim Brotherhood. He became Chairman of the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) when it was founded by the Muslim Brotherhood in the wake of the 2011 Egyptian revolution. He stood as the FJP's candidate for the May–June 2012 presidential election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Morsi

A "line in the sand" was drawn!

Proof of use of chemical weapons by Syria was given today.

The White House today was "studying" the situation.

Anyone paying attention to the dates here?

Enough American blood has been spilled in this useless part of the world. No more American troops in the middle east. No more American money to support future terrorists.
I vote that we let MUSLIM countries solve this one........Saudi, Kuwait and UAE have lots of money and lots of idle young men doing nothing ........so let them help this muslim situation.......NOT OUR BUSINESS............

yep,he always means what he says?
Only when he signs another Executive Order,which is actually less worth than the Paper it is written on!
Amazing that he thinks they are Laws,when they actually only apply to Federal Employees!

There are major events in the world that may or may not require US direct action of sorts. What I am pointing out here is the HUGE gap between what the President says he is going to do, verses what he actually does.

In some of these situations, like Iran and North Korea, this "do nothing" policy could come back to bite us hard. With Syria, maybe not so much; but why should he go to the trouble to bluster and make threats? Who is his audience?