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Well then, what is left is tradition..
and like Navygirl said...doing special things doesn't always have to cost money. Learn how to cook, and go on a free flower hunt...point is to do something extra. I am speaking of men that have money to spend in my post. That they spent on themselves, then said they were broke for this day. esebulldog, now do you see how traditional that gold-digging is? Apparently, it is permissible for women to spend their money on themselves, but the opposite isn't permissible. You misunderstand everything that's been said....that's sad. Did I say I had no money to spend? Did I say I wouldn't, shouldn't, couldn't spend any money today? You don't make any sense. |
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where are all the traditional gold diggers?
There. I corrected the sentence for you, since someone here wants to abide by tradition. yup....yer broke.... 
No, I am just not a sexist. I'll bet you are sexist in at least one way... no matter how you slice us up... we are still separated by gender characteristics. You are obviously hiding behind the sexist thing. Which is both pathetic, and sad. |
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Edited by
esebulldog
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Thu 02/14/13 02:45 PM
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Well then, what is left is tradition..
and like Navygirl said...doing special things doesn't always have to cost money. Learn how to cook, and go on a free flower hunt...point is to do something extra. I am speaking of men that have money to spend in my post. That they spent on themselves, then said they were broke for this day. esebulldog, now do you see how traditional that gold-digging is? Apparently, it is permissible for women to spend their money on themselves, but the opposite isn't permissible. personally, i don't care what the world thinks. i open doors for women (even women i'm not with) if i invite a woman someplace, i foot the entire bill. i hold hands, kiss on the first date, pda, don't wait three days after getting a girl's digits to call, deliver a flower to her home/office whenever i feel like it, carry her over a puddle, kill a spider for her, watch "vanilla sky" twice if she wants, let her braid my hair, talk on the 'phone past my bedtime, and even miss work because her cat is having a bad hair day. basically i try to put her needs and sometimes wants before my own. if she doesn't want to give back, C'est la vie. all i know is that women make my world, and some day i guarantee i guarantee i will call one my own (bulldog double guarantee - patent pending) |
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Edited by
mountainwatergirl
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Thu 02/14/13 02:49 PM
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Well then, what is left is tradition..
and like Navygirl said...doing special things doesn't always have to cost money. Learn how to cook, and go on a free flower hunt...point is to do something extra. I am speaking of men that have money to spend in my post. That they spent on themselves, then said they were broke for this day. esebulldog, now do you see how traditional that gold-digging is? Apparently, it is permissible for women to spend their money on themselves, but the opposite isn't permissible. personally, i don't care what the world thinks. i open doors for women (even women i'm not with) if i invite a women someplace, i foot the entire bill. i hold hands, kiss on the first date, pda, don't wait three days after getting a girl's digits to call, deliver a flower to her home/office whenever i feel like it, carry her over a puddle, kill a spider for her, watch "vanilla sky" twice if she wants, let her braid my hair, talk on the 'phone past my bedtime, and even miss work because her cat is having a bad hair day. basically i try to put her needs and sometimes wants before my own. if she doesn't want to give back, C'est la vie. all i know is that women make my world, and some day i hope to call one my own 
see how easy that was DoDo??? |
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Well then, what is left is tradition..
and like Navygirl said...doing special things doesn't always have to cost money. Learn how to cook, and go on a free flower hunt...point is to do something extra. I am speaking of men that have money to spend in my post. That they spent on themselves, then said they were broke for this day. esebulldog, now do you see how traditional that gold-digging is? Apparently, it is permissible for women to spend their money on themselves, but the opposite isn't permissible. You misunderstand everything that's been said....that's sad. Did I say I had no money to spend? Did I say I wouldn't, shouldn't, couldn't spend any money today? You don't make any sense. Did I say I had no money to spend? Did I say I wouldn't, shouldn't, couldn't spend any money today? Seriously, you insist that the man must pay for dinner because that is "tradition". Yet, the "tradition" comes from a time when many women didn't have jobs outside of the home, when the man usually was the only one with money to spend. That "tradition" is meaningless if a woman has a job outside of the home. |
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Edited by
mountainwatergirl
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Thu 02/14/13 03:48 PM
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Well then, what is left is tradition..
and like Navygirl said...doing special things doesn't always have to cost money. Learn how to cook, and go on a free flower hunt...point is to do something extra. I am speaking of men that have money to spend in my post. That they spent on themselves, then said they were broke for this day. esebulldog, now do you see how traditional that gold-digging is? Apparently, it is permissible for women to spend their money on themselves, but the opposite isn't permissible. You misunderstand everything that's been said....that's sad. Did I say I had no money to spend? Did I say I wouldn't, shouldn't, couldn't spend any money today? You don't make any sense. Did I say I had no money to spend? Did I say I wouldn't, shouldn't, couldn't spend any money today? Seriously, you insist that the man must pay for dinner because that is "tradition". Yet, the "tradition" comes from a time when many women didn't have jobs outside of the home, when the man usually was the only one with money to spend. That "tradition" is meaningless if a woman has a job outside of the home. You're stuck on your point that has nothing to do with my post.  I never said I insisted he pay for dinner.
You assumed that, then started off on it since. You are even running around a bush from the point I made regarding the fact that a man has the money to spend...he just spent it on himself while he slaps a 5.00 card on the table for me. I'm not going to let you assume I have spent money on myself in the recent past as well as he did. That is pure speculation on your part, and you're going to have to do better then that if you want to win a debate with meh!
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ever since i got all this inheritance money i keep running into "independent" women who want to pay their own way, open their own doors, only shop at discount stores, and be responsible for their own orgasms. where are all the old fashioned gold diggers? i can't even get a scammer to email me 
Help DoDo and send some of them his way lol |
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ever since i got all this inheritance money i keep running into "independent" women who want to pay their own way, open their own doors, only shop at discount stores, and be responsible for their own orgasms. where are all the old fashioned gold diggers? i can't even get a scammer to email me
Sorry that I am that way. 
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Thu 02/14/13 03:41 PM
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So what gives? What is it really that causes so many men to mess this up??? I have never had a man that asked me out, not pay for my meal. I didn't have to ask him or plan it in advance. I guess it depends on the type of men a woman goes out with, as to whether he has a problem paying her meal. BTW I go out to nice place to eat myself. So, if a guy didn't want to pay, I would say he was Cheap. I like to spend money, so I never want a Cheap man.
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If a man chooses to spend HIS money on himself and then tells me he is broke so he cant buy me something for valentines day. It dose not bother me. If s care for him material things dont matter. . If he cares for me he will show it in other ways than spending money.
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If a man chooses to spend HIS money on himself and then tells me he is broke so he cant buy me something for valentines day. It dose not bother me. If s care for him material things dont matter. . If he cares for me he will show it in other ways than spending money. Low expectations must be the norm at your place. |
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Here is the first sentence of the OP:
What is up with men that don't want to or know how to buy the proper gifts and dinner for their woman on Valentines?
I objected to the assumption that the man is supposed to pay for the dinner during a time in history when plenty of women have their own sources of income. If the woman has her own income, then why can't she be the one to pay for the dinner? In short, I am promoting gender equality. |
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Here is the first sentence of the OP: What is up with men that don't want to or know how to buy the proper gifts and dinner for their woman on Valentines?
I objected to the assumption that the man is supposed to pay for the dinner during a time in history when plenty of women have their own sources of income. If the woman has her own income, then why can't she be the one to pay for the dinner? In short, I am promoting gender equality. I would gladly pay for dinner for a guy and have done so in the past. As for gifts; I am almost afraid to accept them as there is always a price to pay for them; a hidden agenda. Kind of sad I have to stay on my toes but my past experiences have proven nothing is for free. |
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No Ive never had an issue with not recieving something for valentines day. But im also not the prissy type who would raise hell because my man didnt spend 50 dollars on me. Material things are not as important to me as they are some people.
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Here is the first sentence of the OP: What is up with men that don't want to or know how to buy the proper gifts and dinner for their woman on Valentines?
I objected to the assumption that the man is supposed to pay for the dinner during a time in history when plenty of women have their own sources of income. If the woman has her own income, then why can't she be the one to pay for the dinner? In short, I am promoting gender equality. /clears throat ok, Dodo....one more time... .I never said I wouldn't pay my share. Not once... go back and read them guy. I said the man is broke. I'm not paying his share because he blew all his money on fishing crap. So we go no where unless I PAY it all. Are you with me yet ???? If not...I give up on you... |
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As for gifts; I am almost afraid to accept them as there is always a price to pay for them.
About those gifts, is it true that candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker? |
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Edited by
mountainwatergirl
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Thu 02/14/13 04:23 PM
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No Ive never had an issue with not recieving something for valentines day. But im also not the prissy type who would raise hell because my man didnt spend 50 dollars on me. Material things are not as important to me as they are some people. Missing the point ok lets put it this way... You have been given 50.00, and your man has been given 50.00... you spend your 50.00 on HIM, because you love him and it makes you happy to give yours away to him.... he spends his 50.00 on HIM.... fair? Whether you want gifts or not, is not the issue. That's personal to just you, and others like you. Pretend you do like to go out for Valentines. That is what I'm asking you to do. Put yourself in my shoes...you can't wear your own shoes, with my feet. Not working. Is the scenario I described above about money fair? |
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As for gifts; I am almost afraid to accept them as there is always a price to pay for them.
About those gifts, is it true that candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker? Get me a bottle of rum and you find out. 
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Here is the entire OP:
What is up with men that don't want to or know how to buy the proper gifts and dinner for their woman on Valentines?
A card is 5 bucks, a dozen roses at the major grocery stores is 20 bucks, and dinner for two at the local pub/restaurant can be as little as 25 with tip. This day for sweethearts comes every year, with a whole year to plan it. No excuses that it creeps up on you when you're broke. So what gives? What is it really that causes so many men to mess this up??? Nowhere does the OP mention a particular man being broke because he spent all of his money on fishing gear. If you want to know why a particular man acted a certain way, then you need to talk things over with that particular man. The OP mentions men (plural) not buying "proper gifts and dinner for their woman on Valentines". I don't know of any rule or law which states what "proper" Valentine gifts for women are. I don't know of any rule or law which says that the man is to pay for the dinner. Seriously, what two people do for each other on Valentine's Day is a personal matter between those two people. It isn't something that an outside third party can dictate. If your particular man failed to do what you wanted him to do for you on Valentine's Day, then that issue involves just one man. It is not an excuse to make a negative generalization about all men. |
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The way I see it . . . its his choice how to spend his 50. Just like its my choice if I decide to spend my 50 on him. What right do I have to be upset maybe he really wanted all that fishig gear. His choices are his . . . But if he were to continue to make choices like this and not show me in some way that I was important to him then I would on longer be in a relationship with him.
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