I don't do long term with women with unruly or disrespectful kids. I'll befriend, date, lay with, but, won't consider living or marrying them.

I won't live with a woman with adult kids at home either.

Young, happy kids are nice. But, I am at the age where it's great being a Grandpa. So, young ones are out of the question also.

Kinda' weird. I now have a teenager in my house. He is here because he is respectful and a good kid.

Soo. Let me ask. How many kids is too many or do you have limits on the number?

Be nice now. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

kids???

I would say as many as you feel you can handle and pay attention to. Everyone has different limits. I have seen couples with 5, 6, 7 kids...at some point they dont even remember their names lol. In my opinion if you can not keep track of your sons activities then you over did it lol.

I won't date men that seem to be put off by children, no matter what the number. It's instinctive automatic reaction for me. If he doesn't care for all children, he's not an option, and I don't want anything to do with him.

There is personal capabilities and circumstances that ought to be taken into consideration, but theres also the issue of social impact and over-population. There are people who can handle a lot of kids, but there are plenty who are terrible parents and just use their kids for a welfare check and housework while they get fatter. However, even if they can handle the amount and are good parents, the effect it has on the world, its resources and the amount of care, education, guidance, etc. that each child gets or cannot get due to having more siblings. I don't know if I could put a number on it, but I think if you've had 3 in the course of 10 years, they should start using a condom or find other ways of pleasure and/or intimacy. That also doesnt mean when your oldest turns ten, you should have another. There is more important things than just how we feel as parents or what we get from having children. A lot of parents are oblivious to the kinds of external treatment that occurs, how having more kids can affect a child regardless of age, and the responsibility and role modeling that is neglected by just having kids for the sake of it. Then again, people are going to do whatever they want regardless of anybody else, including their own children, so it doesnt really matter what I think. Humans are our own worst enemy.

All kids isn't the point.
Like I said, I have a very well mannered teenager in my home. His mama doesn't live here. We be two bachelors.

I did have another one here a few years back. That's when the wife and I were together.

The little basterd was a rebellious prick. Dishonored me, my wife, and the neighbors.

I sent his a$$ down da road. The wife chose to go with him. She came back a month later without the POS.

I love being a Grandpa. I can always give the kids back to the parents.

Too Many 4 her 2 Have as a Single Mother yu Wanno Date?

Or

Too Many for yu and yur Wife 2 Have?

Former = 3

Latter = 4

I do not care how many Children a man has as long as they are grown like past 25. Right now I am talking with a older man, who has None and that is strange.

My point is...you speak ill of some children...whether they are well behaved or not....they are still someone's children.
I wouldn't have anything to do with a man that speaks about children like that. There are good reasons some children behave the way they do...and it's usually the parents that are lacking something they need...last thing these children need, is a man that isn't their father, behaving towards them the way you did. "The wife" ought to be ashamed of herself.

I'm not really bothered but I'm not going to walk into a situation where a woman has kids and start acting like I'm their new dad. It's not my place to discipline somebody else's children and tell them what to do.

I was in a relationship with someone that did have a teenage daughter but I wasn't living with them. The girl was cheeky but not a bad kid. She wasn't particularly interested in talking to me and the one time we all went out together to the cinema the girl sat at the back of the bus on her own. I offered to buy popcorn and she said no. Didn't say no when I gave her money on her birthday though.

I'm not that bothered but it's not my place to walk into a situation and try to discipline somebody else's kids or tell them what to do.

I was in a relationship with someone that had a teenage daughter but we weren't living together and we didn't do a lot of family type stuff. She was cheeky but not a bad kid. I would say to my ex, "Are you going to just let her speak to you like that?" but my ex was pretty cheeky as well and they were just like that with each other, so whatever.

The little basterd was in my fkin' home. I have rules. He chose to buck my rules and spit in my face. If I was his father, he would have been raised differently. He's very fortunate I didn't abort him.
The POS was raised that way.
I took him in in good faith.
He was lazy, back-talking, disrespectful.
The wife, sent him back to his mama and daddy in Mexico.
Shame on any bich who would condemn her for that.
I chose to send his a$$ down the road.

What would you have done.

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Not get with someone that had children if I didn't want to put the effort into the package deal. Lot's of children have problems that were not raised properly. Especially boys with no fathers, that end up with mom's boyfriend that can't see he's crying out for guidance in all the wrong ways. You have to see past what they are doing, and put yourself aside. We all have rules. I'll bet you weren't a real rule abider in your younger days either. I'm sure your mother would like to at least wash your mouth out with soap.

These children may need more than a child that has had both parents together their whole life. Children of divorce or single parents are not always fine with their parent's choices in life, and have anger and sadness issues.
People getting with partners that have children need to realize, you will be an influence to some degree to your partner's children if they are around you.
More often than not, they will not like the union. They may act out because of this, but not in ways that will tell you what the problem is. These children may have behaved like that their whole life because mom has weak parenting skills so the child is spoiled, confused, let to do what they want. Not getting the love guidance, and comfort they need from a father. One needs to tread lightly with children in this situation. You almost can't expect them to behave as other children do that were blessed enough to have two parents, or heck, even one good parent. The last thing you should do is make the child dislike you and fuel their preexisting fears about you.

I LOVE kids !
So i always put them ahead in consideration of having a friendship with their mom
If i can't find some kind of common ground for them to at least like having me around
Then there would be little point in a relationship which would only make things worse for the lady of interest
And for her children as well
=nobody happy
Good Moms put their kids FIRST !
Even above their own happiness...
...sigh

I don't seem to have that problem thankfully
I know the kind of kids you mean though Pard
And sometimes it is just better to move on so to speak

I love kids too....greatest things since sliced bread!

What you describe in your opening sentence makes me think of how the disrespectful children get that way... when they don't have a steady father in the home to train and discipline them, and their mother goes from man to man, just like you said, willing2, you'll hook up with their mother, and I'm sure you weren't the first or will be her last, but you won't show them the affection they need as part of the package that comes with her, and now that you're in their mother's life they get even less of hers, so they become even more unruly just trying to get the adults attention... I'm sorry, but my heart feels sad for the children who don't know how to raise themselves, and the adults in their lives are more interested in their own fun and frolic and don't take the time, or even have a desire to help steer their young minds in the right direction...

don't get me wrong, I do agree with your position... to each his own... I've never had kids, but I can speak from that perspective, that at my age I'd prefer to be with a man that I won't have to raise his kids, and that might be the only reason he would want to be with me...

.. if they are in public schools, 0