Topic: Uhoh, gun crazies going crazier.....look out....
willing2's photo
Mon 01/14/13 11:42 AM

Too many innocent people die from legal guns...there is no way around that fact.



Just where is that like to those alleged facts that law abiding citizens kill innocent people?

UH-DUH! Only criminals do.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 01/14/13 11:43 AM


Too many innocent people die from legal guns...there is no way around that fact.



Just where is that like to those alleged facts that law abiding citizens kill innocent people?

UH-DUH! Only criminals do.

why let Facts ruin a good little Agitation?laugh

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 11:51 AM
These are old statistics but valid

Article
Injury is the leading cause of death for persons aged 1-44 years in the United States. More than half (55%) of all injury-related deaths are caused by motor vehicles and firearms (1). Although the number of deaths from motor-vehicle crashes has exceeded those from firearms, since 1968, differences in the number of deaths have declined: from 1968 through 1991, motor-vehicle- related deaths decreased by 21% (from 54,862 to 43,536) while firearm-related deaths increased by 60% (from 23,875 to 38,317) (1). Based on these trends, by the year 2003, the number of firearm-related deaths will surpass the number of motor-vehicle crashes, and firearms will become the leading cause of injury-related death (Figure 1). This report compares trends and patterns of deaths resulting from firearm- and motor-vehicle- related injuries in the United States from 1968 through 1991. Information about firearm- and motor-vehicle-related injury deaths was obtained from mortality data files maintained by CDC's National Center for Health Statistics. Rates were calculated by using population estimates obtained from the U.S. Bureau of the Census.

From 1968 through 1991, the number of firearm-related deaths exceeded the number of motor-vehicle crash-related deaths every year in the District of Columbia and for 17 of the 24 years in Alaska. Before 1990, the number of firearm-related deaths exceeded that of motor-vehicle-related deaths in any year in no more than two states and the District of Columbia. In 1990, however, the number of firearm-related deaths equaled or exceeded motor-vehicle- related deaths in five states (Alaska, Louisiana, Maryland, New York, and Texas) and the District of Columbia, and in 1991, in seven states (California, Louisiana, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Texas, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia. In addition, in 1991, the number of motor-vehicle-related deaths exceeded the number of firearm-related deaths by 10% or less in eight states (Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, ........


http://wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/prevguid/m0023655/m0023655.asp

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Mon 01/14/13 11:53 AM
Gun Accidents Kill 500 Kids a Year
posted Friday, August 1, 2008
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Advice every parent needs to hear about firearm safety.
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This week, a toddler fatally shot himself after finding a gun in his parent's car. According to Jackson, Miss., authorities, the 3-year-old was sitting in the car at a gas station when he found the gun in the front seat and shot himself in the face. Police questioned the boy's parents, but no charges have been filed.

But these aren't freak accidents. More than 500 children die annually from accidental gunshots. Some shoot themselves, while others kill friends or siblings after discovering a gun.

Here are more scary stats: Americans own 200 million firearms, and 35 percent of homes contain at least one gun. Last year, a study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found more than 1.7 million children live in homes with loaded and unlocked guns.

And if you do own a gun and think your kid won't get to it, listen to this: A recent study published in the Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine found 39 percent of kids knew where their parent's guns were stored, while 22 percent said they had handled the weapons despite adult's warnings to stay away. What's more, age was not a factor in whether children had played with the guns -- 5-year-olds were just as likely to report doing so as
14-year-olds.

Here are just a few heartbreaking cases:

-On July 19, 4-year-old Dylan Jackson shot himself to death after finding a loaded gun at a friend's home during a birthday party..........................

Read more: http://www.momlogic.com/2008/08/protect_your_kids_from_guns.php#ixzz2HyuG8qHy
http://www.momlogic.com/2008/08/protect_your_kids_from_guns.php

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Mon 01/14/13 11:55 AM
One child killed by a legal gun is too much, too many,....


And if we don't care about the kids enough to stop it then we as a country suck big time.....

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:00 PM
Edited by willowdraga on Mon 01/14/13 12:03 PM
Accidents and Tragedies

By Vincent Iannelli, M.D., About.com Guide

Updated January 09, 2013




Childhood gun and shooting accidents are not rare.

They are one of the top ten leading causes of accidental death for all age groups outside of newborns and infants.

In 2007, there were 122 unintentional firearm deaths in children, and an additional 3,060 nonfatal gun and shooting accidents, which resulted in an estimated 1,375 children needing to be hospitalized for their injuries. Unintentional firearm deaths in children have remained at about the same levels since, with 114 deaths in children and teens less than age 18 in 2010.

These gun and shooting accidents, all tragedies, highlight the importance of learning about gun safety and discussing gun safety with your pediatrician.
Gun and Shooting Accidents

Some more recent gun and shooting accidents involving children include:

a 2-year-old in Cooper County, Missouri, died after shooting himself in the head with a handgun that "he got a hold of" in his house.
a 3-year-old in Loris, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach, died after shooting himself in the head with a pistol that he found in the car.
a 5-year-old in Belleville, Illinois, near St. Louis, was accidentally shot in the head with a shotgun by his10-year-old brother.
a 3-year-old in Maryland Heights, Missouri, near St. Louis, who shot himself once in the chest, died. He found the gun in his parents bedroom, one of whom is a police officer.
a 2-year-old was shot in the head by his 5-year-old brother in Connersville, Indiana who was playing with a gun he found in a bedroom. The boy, a twin, died of the gun shot.
a 3-year-old in St. Louis, Missouri who died after she shot herself in the head with a gun she found tucked between two mattresses.
a 6-year-old who was shot and killed by his 11-year-old stepbrother, in what was initially thought to be an accident, but the boy is now facing possible murder charges. The two boys were left home alone at the time of the shooting in Martinsville, Indiana.
a 10-year-old in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi died after he shot himself with his grandfather's gun that he found in his nightstand. He would have been going into the fifth grade next fall.
a 15-year-old from Cherry Hill, Baltimore was shot in the head and killed by a 12-year-old friend who was playing with the gun during a sleepover.
a 5-year-old from Bossier City, Louisiana found a loaded handgun a cabinet in his home, and accidentally shot and killed himself.
a 2-year-old near Fresno, California found a loaded, semi-automatic handgun in his home, walked into a bedroom with the gun, and it fired, striking and killing his 6-year-old sister.
a 3-year-old in South Carolina was shot in his upper boy by his uncle who was cleaning his gun when it accidentally fire. The toddler died in emergency surgery.
a 2-year-old in Georgia was shot in the back by a 9 or 10-year-old who found a gun in a van they were all playing in while the toddler's family was preparing to move to a new apartment.
a 2-year-old in Phoenix was shot in the face with a handgun by her 8-year-old brother, who thought he was playing with a toy gun he found on the floor of his grandfather's apartment.

Etc.... and so on...

One child death is too many

As adults we should be more concerned about the children than hugging a gun....

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:03 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 01/14/13 12:10 PM
don't you love those old Stats!
So that is how you Gungrabbers intend to win!
LIES;LIES,and more Lies!
From the LIARinChief in the WH right down to his lowest Subject!
Hope you gonna love the Country,errm Hell you gonna create!
You Guys can't even develop a rational Dialogue!
It's all Tearjerk and Kneejerk,totally lacking Facts!
What you posted above is more proof of the Brady-Bunch MO!
If it weren't so serious ,I'd laugh in the Face of you all!
BTW,how about the Guns owned by the Criminals!
You harp and harp about Legal Guns,how about the Criminal's Guns?
Afraid to go after them?
They might fight back?


This is what happens to Citizens obeying Gunlaws!

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318040_362489617182416_1956390371_n.jpg


willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:07 PM
Scream all you want but I will fight for the kids.

I couldn't care less if gun toters kill each other they ask for it because they feel the need to tote but kids have to put up with crazies and I will fight for them and the innocent peaceful folks who don't feel the need to be gun crazy I will fight for them too.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:11 PM

Scream all you want but I will fight for the kids.

I couldn't care less if gun toters kill each other they ask for it because they feel the need to tote but kids have to put up with crazies and I will fight for them and the innocent peaceful folks who don't feel the need to be gun crazy I will fight for them too.
you're not rational!
But neither is the rest of the BradyBunch!

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:14 PM
I am definitely more calm and peaceful and logical than any gun toter is because I don't feel the fear needed to need a gun.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:18 PM

I am definitely more calm and peaceful and logical than any gun toter is because I don't feel the fear needed to need a gun.
yep,your Posts show it!laugh

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:20 PM
The founding fathers were in a whole different world than we are in today. Guns were needed in their day. Guns could have overthrown the sitting government in their day.

Not today.. None of it applies today.

If guns were a deterrent like lied about from the NRA, there would be less crime period because who knows who has a gun? Crimes are committed taking the chance the victim is a gun owner in almost all cases. Because they have no way of knowing if they are packin or not.

Except in the cases of known to each other crimes and it doesn't matter there either because if you know where they keep the gun you have the jump on them.

The protective factor of a gun is false security.

The NRA wants you to buy more guns, that is all the fearmongering is about.

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 12:21 PM


I am definitely more calm and peaceful and logical than any gun toter is because I don't feel the fear needed to need a gun.
yep,your Posts show it!laugh


I know they do.

willing2's photo
Mon 01/14/13 01:08 PM
If, I was an extreme Left anti-gunner and really wanted to make a difference, I would go out to the ghetto nearest me and start taking guns away from the gang-bangers.

Show 'em a can of whoop-*** and I'm sure they will just lay down they guns and run fo da hills. A red cape and Zoro mask will add strength to that can.

The super powers will triple if the anti-gunner does it at night and will quadruple if they do it on a Friday or Saturday night.


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 01/14/13 01:30 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 01/14/13 01:55 PM

Too many innocent people die from legal guns...there is no way around that fact.

So the laws will be changing to control them more.

Be mad about it but it is going to happen in the name of 20 6 year olds gunned down in their classroom in under a minute.


Facts just don't matter to you do they?

Guns don't kill people, criminal/violent people do, and banning guns will work just about as well as banning drugs for criminals who don't care for the law.

How completely manipulated some mindless people can be! slaphead

Thank god most Americans still believe in the constitution and the rights afforded under it and endowed by their creator!

Ask 6 million Jews how well giving up their guns worked to make them safer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPaa7TiK_Gk&feature=endscreen

There is NOT one statistic or study that shows/proves/indicates banning guns or imposing restrictions has done anything to decrease such occurances in any way!

20 years of gun bans until 2004 was abandoned when congress didn't reauthorize it because there was absolutely no effective decrease in crime as a result of them.

As I said, mindless people care not for facts, criminals care not for laws! Two very dangerous extremes, both equally scary!

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 02:39 PM
Except if guns were a deterrent to crime, the US would have the smallest crime rate in the world...No criminal knows for sure there is no gun where they commit their crimes in this country.

So that makes gun not a deterrent to crime at all....

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 02:40 PM
I guess those pesky criminals are like me, they just aren't afraid of those pesky guns....

What to do?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 01/14/13 02:54 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Mon 01/14/13 02:55 PM

Except if guns were a deterrent to crime, the US would have the smallest crime rate in the world...No criminal knows for sure there is no gun where they commit their crimes in this country.

So that makes gun not a deterrent to crime at all....


Tell it to the Swiss...I'm sure they could benefit from your advice regarding guns and crime...Even the Swiss need a good laugh from time to time, just like the rest of us.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 01/14/13 03:21 PM

I guess those pesky criminals are like me, they just aren't afraid of those pesky guns....

What to do?



What you THINK you sound like...



What you really sound like...


What you are more than likely going to do if a situation got really hostile...


My past experience is that people who talk brave like you do are the first to flee!

Let me see, a 900 pound bear is mauling your child. How exactly are you planning on saving YOUR CHILD WITHOUT A GUN? CALL THE POLICE?

How about you are home and it is 3.30 am and two men ingress you home and you are hiding in your bedroom and suddenly you have two men glaring at you and one of them is dropping his trousers and grinning from under his mask. Who you gonna call, GHOSTBUSTERS? Hit them with a broomstick? Threaten them with a curse? Or maybe you are sick in the head and welcome an attack like this and get your freak on! So how would you chose to defend yourself? Call men with guns to help you?

Come on smart azz! How would you protect yourself? Maybe you are a Martial Artist? Or did a couple of weekend self defense classes suddenly wake up your mastery of Kung Fu? I got it. YOU OWN A T.A.D.A.R.D.I.S.! Lucky you!

willowdraga's photo
Mon 01/14/13 03:26 PM


Except if guns were a deterrent to crime, the US would have the smallest crime rate in the world...No criminal knows for sure there is no gun where they commit their crimes in this country.

So that makes gun not a deterrent to crime at all....


Tell it to the Swiss...I'm sure they could benefit from your advice regarding guns and crime...Even the Swiss need a good laugh from time to time, just like the rest of us.


Still didn't discount the fact that if guns were a deterrent, the US would have the smallest crime stats of the world because there is one gun for every living US citizen at this point.

And they don't stop em now...lol