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Fri 01/04/13 12:59 AM


Here's an economic pundit that doesn't believe Obama will make the full four years of this term.

http://xrepublic.tv/node/1144




haters are hoping,,,,,but for americas sake,, they better hope he makes it through as well as any other president alleged to have 'abused their power', or 'overlooked the constitution' or any of the other claims against Obama that are in no way exclusive or unique to presidencies of the past,,,


You don't understand…In my case it isn't hate; it is fear and caring for the American people, moreover it is fear & caring for people everywhere. Obama has more charisma than any president since Kennedy, but unlike Kennedy, he won't create a Camelot; it will be more like Mordor.

In Kennedy's case, even though he belonged to the "good old boys club" by virtue of his old man, neither he nor his brother would take orders they considered out of line. They tried to work FOR the people…That's what got them killed…and you know what?…The whole world mourned their passing because the whole world knew there had been an internal war between the sh*th*ads usually in charge and the Kennedys brothers. We all knew that hope fore America died not with JFK, but with RFK, who was going to (hopefully) win the presidency and continue the work he and his brother had started.

Some of the presidents you had after that were directly involved in JFK's murder. Johnson was, so was Nixon (peripherally). By the time they got done with Carter, they knew they had to transfer a lot of power to the power behind the "throne" just in case another honest man got in, so when Reagan (an honest man & patriot) was elected, the real power of the whitehouse was the VP, Dubya's dad. He was intimately involved in JFK's assassination to the point that he actively participated in it under JFK's buddy, Allen Dulles (who figured Jack had to "go" because Jack was pissed about the Bay of Pigs mess and Allen still wanted to "re'take" cuba).

So since Carter, the bad guys have always had their man in the whitehouse either as a pres. or VP. Reagan may have had some dealings in the Iran-Contra thing; I don't know; he might have seen it as politically expedient, though I think it most likely he had to be talked into it, if he knew much at all. Whatever the case Reagan was no angel, but he was a far cry from the presidents you've had since.

It's been the Clintons & bushes ever since, because they ENJOY what they do. They hardly have to be ordered to do anything at all. For these paychopaths it's a pleasure; but it wasn't until "Dubya" got in (with Cheney) that they really went to town. Bush was even heard saying the consitution was "just a g-d*am piece of paper"…Needless to say, he went about quietly eviscerating it. 9/11 gave him the perfect excuse. (so it turns out 9/11 was very "convenient" all around…It occurred at exactly the right time) The changes made to some VERY crucial legislation were horrifying! I could see the pattern as I watched the changes published, but the American people seemed quite complacent about it.

It seems "American Gladiator" is more important to most Americans than watching what's happening in Washington, because nobody even seemed to notice their highest law being run thru a shredder under Dubya. Fortunately, Bush wasn't very welll-liked because he had no charisma and after all the crap he'd pulled, and his overdoing the "Gerald Ford" act, he'd lost all credibility and (more importantly), almost all his following and he left office mostly in disgrace.

So now we come to your Beloved Obama. Young, vibrant, intelligent, eloquent, handsome, and the first black president. That's a lot to recommend him. In fact these qualities have gotten him a huge cult following. Practically the whole country turned into "Moonies" to his "Reverand Moon."

He promised "Change", and when he was first elected, even I wondered if maybe the US had turned a corner. I mean how could an apparently socialist black man be part of the "good old boys club"? I actually began to hope for you guys!

Then I soon saw from his continuation of the destruction of the constitution instead of its re-construction what sort of change he was talking about…believe me it wasn't change for the better, and it looks like he was groomed for and planted into the position to deliver the "coup de grace" to the American people because they were so in thrall, they'd never see the bullet between their eyes.

The man is another Hitler and he'll put all the "useless eaters" into camps to work off the national debt. When their usefulness is done, they'll probably be executed and buried in mass graves. My guess is about 15 million Americans give or take, but it's not like the "lucky ones" are gonna have it much easier…most of you will probably be sterilized to cull the population down to "reasonable" numbers. You are probably already eating the GMO corn designed to do that.

I'm begging you guys…Don't have ANY faith in him, don't trust him, and have him arrested & tried ASAP…He IS a mass murderer. He has absolutely no respect for the nation or any of its people. He will kill you as soon as look at you. As the bible might say, he will lead you into perdition.

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Fri 01/04/13 01:16 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 01/04/13 01:51 AM
HE is not going to or trying to execute and bury americans in mass graves within the next four years, anymore than he tried to in the past four



comparing him to Hitler while in the same description ASSUMING reagan had to be 'talked into' the scandals under his reign,,,, seems to me to be a paranoia that is unreasonable and obsessive,,,,,Hitler did not have the government that we do, the checks and balances,, etc,, and he HATED and saw a RACE as inferior

on the oontrary, OBama fights to push the equality of ALL citizens, and he works within a system of checks and balances,,,,



there has to be a CONGRESS interested in the camps and executions for that to become a reality, (as is exampled by OBamas actual signing of an executive order to CLOSE such a controversial camp without much support from CONGRESS,,,notice, it didnt happen)

, and if thats the case, no president will be stopping them BECAUSE of the way the system is set up,,,,



THIS president, is not any more excessively good or excessively evil than presidents before him,,,,the perception of some overwhelming, catastrophic, character of HITLERISH potential,,,,is the result of 'HIS' story that decides to focus only on the 'greatness' of some men and the 'evilness' of others,, and not focusing on the human imperfection of all


'One is astonished in the study of history at the recurrence of the idea that evil must be forgotten, distorted, skimmed over. We must not remember that Daniel Webster got drunk but only that he was a splendid constitutional lawyer. We must forget that George Washington was a slave owner . . . and simply remember the things we regard as creditable and inspiring. The difficulty, of course, with this philosophy is that history loses its value as an incentive and example; it paints perfect man and noble nations, but it does not tell the truth' W E B Dubois

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Fri 01/04/13 09:36 AM
I suppose I could again pick your post apart point-by-point to further try to convince you of facts you could verify for yourself if you even bothered to check (they aren't in the least hidden), but I can see you are too busy with Heaven's Gate.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- John Heywood

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Fri 01/04/13 10:09 AM
I love Ran Prieur’s blog. I’ve been following it faithfully since 2005. I had it set as my browser homepage for a few months once. I’m not sure of all the exact details, but he is “semi” retiring from blogging and apparently no longer believes in what is commonly referred to as the “Crash” or “the **** Hitting the Fan” or “The end of Civilization as We know it.” He will still occasionally make posts but his section entitled “Crash Watch” is officially retired

January 1, 2013. This page is retired. Ten years ago it really seemed like the whole system was about to come apart. People who saw a crash coming were seeing things that were being ignored by people who expected business as usual. Yet we were still wrong. After seeing how little daily life has changed after the 2008 financial collapse, seven years with global oil production on a plateau, and two catastrophic hurricanes, I think the big mistake of doomers was assuming that failures would have positive feedback like a house of cards. At this point, anyone still using the “house of cards” metaphor is not a serious analyst but an entertainer. It’s clear that the interconnectedness of modern complex systems makes them stronger, not weaker.

I have to say that the fact that he can change his mind about things is what makes him so refreshing and honest. I mean isn’t that what a thinking person does? Change their opinion in light of careful consideration of new information? He’s a homeowner in Suburban Spokane now, and not really a drop out from society. It might be tempting to say that he simply grew up and outgrew his romantic ideals, but I’ve followed his thoughts gradually and incrementally. In the way that he has handled this change in viewpoint his personal integrity has shown through.

Prieur is a very approachable person and seems to spends a lot of time answering e-mails. I sense that it has been stressful for him to have so much information out there written from a perspective that he no longer really holds. He has been updating a lot of his essays in light of his current understanding. In a way I feel that maybe he should just leave them as stand alone works of art, honestly reflecting his point of view at the time they were written. Fortunately he does seem to be preserving the originals alongside the updated versions.

My perspective has also evolved along similar lines. I found Ran Prieur probably through my interest in Peak Oil and Green Anarchy. I’m sure his blog came up on some type of Google search involving those topics. In 2005 or so I was voraciously reading everything I could by John Zerzan, Jared Diamond, and Derrick Jensen. I was preparing for the Oil Crash and looking forward to donning a loin cloth and returning to the wilds to live as a hunter gatherer.

I feel like this was an enriching period of my life. I did develop some survival skills. I spent some time “rewilding” and attempting to throw off the psychological shackles of human domestication. Like Ran, I tried my hand at homesteading and growing my own food and, like Ran, my results were mixed. He has some excellent, honest insights about how hard it is and that a sense of community is crucial. You can’t go it alone. Its’ a popular myth that an individual can return to the wild to live off the land, but it’s just that: a myth.

Through my exploration of these topics - living closer to the Earth, having a smaller carbon footprint, withdrawing from the rat rat race in exchange for more free time - I concluded that even if they won’t suddenly change the world are worth doing for their own sake.

Wishing you the best, Ran, for whatever the future holds for you.


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Fri 01/04/13 10:50 AM

I suppose I could again pick your post apart point-by-point to further try to convince you of facts you could verify for yourself if you even bothered to check (they aren't in the least hidden), but I can see you are too busy with Heaven's Gate.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- John Heywood



IM starting with the man in the mirror - Michael Jackson

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Fri 01/04/13 10:58 AM
Want a good dose of common sense?

Dr. Alan Keyes, the man who should be president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc

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Fri 01/04/13 11:02 AM

Want a good dose of common sense?

Dr. Alan Keyes, the man who should be president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc




laugh laugh laugh laugh


more like a dose of political aspiration and resentment,,,,

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Fri 01/04/13 11:04 AM


I suppose I could again pick your post apart point-by-point to further try to convince you of facts you could verify for yourself if you even bothered to check (they aren't in the least hidden), but I can see you are too busy with Heaven's Gate.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- John Heywood



IM starting with the man in the mirror - Michael Jackson


Ok, but be warned...You saw where looking in the mirror and seeing a distorted self-image got him.

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Fri 01/04/13 11:09 AM


Want a good dose of common sense?

Dr. Alan Keyes, the man who should be president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc




laugh laugh laugh laugh


more like a dose of political aspiration and resentment,,,,


Wrong read on him. I guessed that you would call him an"uncle Tom".
Don't worry though, many blacks make the same mistake.

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Fri 01/04/13 11:09 AM



I suppose I could again pick your post apart point-by-point to further try to convince you of facts you could verify for yourself if you even bothered to check (they aren't in the least hidden), but I can see you are too busy with Heaven's Gate.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- John Heywood



IM starting with the man in the mirror - Michael Jackson


Ok, but be warned...You saw where looking in the mirror and seeing a distorted self-image got him.



physician heal theyself,,,,,,lol

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Fri 01/04/13 11:18 AM



Want a good dose of common sense?

Dr. Alan Keyes, the man who should be president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc




laugh laugh laugh laugh


more like a dose of political aspiration and resentment,,,,


Wrong read on him. I guessed that you would call him an"uncle Tom".
Don't worry though, many blacks make the same mistake.


no , I wouldnt use the term although I understand it,and since its been brought up

I take Keyes as more of a narcissist than a Tom,, but I could be wrong,,,


I love my daughter in concept, but the fire of hell will consume her soul in the afterlife and she will deserve it for her transgressions against the Lord." - Keyes addressing a Kindergarten class in Peoria about his homosexual daughter.


now this man speaks of his DAUGHTER the way NOI speaks of whites,,and yet he should be president?

now, as wise as I feel Farrakhan is, even I wouldnt suggest he should be President, as his focus and support is mainly around african americans instead of america as a whole

Keyes, (pretends? many of the loudest voices are also the biggest sinners) to be representative for 'christian' values,, and I likewise wouldnt vote for him because he isnt a voice for AMERICA as a whole,,,,and he is apparently an extremely sore loser too,, never a good sign for a leader


laugh

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Fri 01/04/13 12:08 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 01/04/13 12:08 PM

marx is still the most read economist and Marx stated very clearly that he was not a Communist. What you see is the use of his theories, starting with Bismarck- you @#$% the people too much and so you have to do something good for them. Obama is not a communist, your country has already fundamentally changed to fascism (corporate state) and now he is implementing some corrections for the sake of the people. This reminds me of something Dick Gregory once said, I paraphrase: If they take away the booze, cigarettes, drugs, etc from the people, then they will have to call out the tanks to control you instead. Tanks? Remember Tinnenam Square, riots started due to the governments adoption of Freidman economic policies where profit is king and people are disposeable.
Blah, any set of concepts so full of need speech is inherently socialist.


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Fri 01/04/13 02:53 PM




I suppose I could again pick your post apart point-by-point to further try to convince you of facts you could verify for yourself if you even bothered to check (they aren't in the least hidden), but I can see you are too busy with Heaven's Gate.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- John Heywood



IM starting with the man in the mirror - Michael Jackson


Ok, but be warned...You saw where looking in the mirror and seeing a distorted self-image got him.



physician heal theyself,,,,,,lol


I did...I was trying to treat you, but a cure only works when the patient cooperates. laugh

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Fri 01/04/13 03:07 PM
much the way Hitler tried to 'treat' the mentality of those who didnt see the doom he did from 'certain' elements of their society,,,,

I will keep my 'illness' if thats the case

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Fri 01/04/13 03:15 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Fri 01/04/13 03:23 PM

much the way Hitler tried to 'treat' the mentality of those who didnt see the doom he did from 'certain' elements of their society,,,,

I will keep my 'illness' if thats the case


Did you mean: ...who didnt see the doom he did TO 'certain' elements of their society?

If so, I don't think those people needed his "treatment"...They already had a healthy dose of ignorance as a vaccination.

The ones he "treated" were people like me...the ones that didn't agree with him.

I can see you've had your denial booster shot already.

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