Topic: Petition to Try Sen. Feinstein for Treason | |
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The constitution, like most legal documents, is not sacrosanct. It is not written in stone like the "Ten Commandments". The law is a living thing, not a dead language like Latin. It was meant to be amended.
And to have amendments rescinded by the will of the people. Look at the bill of rights, which was added later, and the nineteenth amendment banning the sale of alcohol which was passed and later taken off, and the amendment giving women the right to vote. To suggest that a legislator is committing treason for trying to change gun rights is beyond ludicrous. |
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Below is the verbatim text of the proposed action against Feinstein. We petition the Obama Administration to: Try Senator Dianne Feinstein in a Federal Court For Treason To The Constitution The Constitution was written to restrain the government. No amendment is more important for this purpose than the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment was written so the power could be kept with the citizenry in the face of a tyrannical government. It was well understood the Constitution acknowledged certain rights that could not be limited by government. Senator Dianne Feinstein has made it clear she does not believe in the Constitution or the inalienable rights of Americans to keep and bear arms. She is actively working to destroy the 2nd amendment with her 2013 assault weapons ban. For this reason we the people of the United States petition for her to be tried in Federal Court for treason to the Constitution. The reason for the upset is that Feinstein’s proposed legislation is that it does not only cover assault weapons and leaves many gaps for decisions by the courts, law enforcement, and state legislators. It is truly not a genuine effort to curb gun violence. It is an effort to begin the process of eliminating ALL firearms, so that in future years there will be NO PRIVATE ownership of guns, regardless of the type. Below is a verbatim summary of the proposed legislation as it appears on her website: Stops the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of more than 100 specifically-named firearms as well as certain semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds. Stops the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment; exempting more than 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting and sporting purposes; and exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons. However, the full text of what she proposes has now been removed from her website. There is much more! It also calls for the full registration for ALL GUNS and THEIR OWNERS. Whether the petition will garner any support from the president is doubtful as he is also anti-gun. The main point here is that there are enough angry people out there to make a difference at the polls when Feinstein’s seat is up for re-election. Don’t be fooled! Diane Feinstein does not have your interests in the Second Amendment at heart. |
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still is not treasonous as this
'. It is truly not a genuine effort to curb gun violence. It is an effort to begin the process of eliminating ALL firearms, so that in future years there will be NO PRIVATE ownership of guns, regardless of the type. ' has no evidence other than ones perception and opinion she has every right, to DISAGREE With whatever she wants as does any citizen, in any profession |
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Wow, it is amazing that so many of our citizens do not know the difference between a law and the Constitution and how the Constitution can only be changed by Amendment, not a law. Federal laws are passed by the house and senate and with or without the signature of the President.
Amendments to the constitution are submitted by Congress and ratified by the individual States. Anyone can propose an amendment to the Constitution and if the proper steps are taken, it can pass and change the law of the land. No Amendment to the Second of the Bill of Rights has been proposed (are you paying attention Ms. Harmony) and trying to change it by congress passing a law is prohibited by the Constitution. The rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. |
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Edited of comments aimed at members.
soufie Site Moderator |
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You forgot the part about "a WELL REGULATED MILITIA being necessary
to the security of a free state". |
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Wow, it is amazing that so many of our citizens do not know the difference between a law and the Constitution and how the Constitution can only be changed by Amendment, not a law. Federal laws are passed by the house and senate and with or without the signature of the President. Amendments to the constitution are submitted by Congress and ratified by the individual States. Anyone can propose an amendment to the Constitution and if the proper steps are taken, it can pass and change the law of the land. No Amendment to the Second of the Bill of Rights has been proposed (are you paying attention Ms. Harmony) and trying to change it by congress passing a law is prohibited by the Constitution. The rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. the bill of rights does not DEFINE what arms are, specifically, it doesnt negate the legislation of the manufacture or sale of such 'arms' either it just states you can KEEP and BEAR arms, unless someone proposes a government seizure of ALL 'arms', that 'right' is not being infringed upon so long as there are WEAPONS To keep and BEAR, the law is still being upheld |
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You forgot the part about "a WELL REGULATED MILITIA being necessary to the security of a free state". I didn't forget. It didn't apply. You forgot (or don't know) that a bill by congress is not an amendment to the constitution. I don't think ANYONE would object to an amendment to the Constitution being proposed by Feinstein. But the fact is that it wouldn't have a prayer of passing. So in a dishonest end-run she is trying to change the Constitution with a standard federal bill. That is an attempt to bypass the Constitution that she swore to uphold. |
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Oh, so one part of the holy constitution "applies" to the legislatures ability to pass laws, and another part does not?
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Oh, so one part of the holy constitution "applies" to the legislatures ability to pass laws, and another part does not? ![]() Congress cannot pass a bill that changes or violates the Constitution. (High school civics) If Congress wants to change the Constitution, they follow the procedure for doing so which they have done before. But it is the States who ultimately decide whether it gets changed. |
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in·fringe
/inˈfrinj/ Verb Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): "infringe a copyright". Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy". Synonyms violate - transgress - break - contravene - trespass I guess I'll have to post the definition of "limit", "encroach", and "undermine" next. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 01/01/13 03:29 PM
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in·fringe /inˈfrinj/ Verb Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): "infringe a copyright". Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy". Synonyms violate - transgress - break - contravene - trespass I guess I'll have to post the definition of "limit", "encroach", and "undermine" next. not really 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS says nothing about regulating the SALE AND MANUFACTURE of those arms as someone else said, its not a 'right' if it requires purchase or contract |
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What were the founding fathers thinking of when they wrote
"a well regulated militia"? And what kind of "arms" were they talking about back in 1775? |
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What were the founding fathers thinking of when they wrote "a well regulated militia"? And what kind of "arms" were they talking about back in 1775? It doesn't matter what they were talking about in 1775. This is what they are talking about now. http://www.awrm.org/Gear.htm |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 01/01/13 04:08 PM
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What were the founding fathers thinking of when they wrote "a well regulated militia"? And what kind of "arms" were they talking about back in 1775? "We the people" were and are the militia with a right to keep and bear arms (any manufactured...yes...even on par with the military) in defense of our rights and securing a free state. States can regulate actions or use, but not ownership or the right to it. We've allowed far too many encroachments on our rights for far to long mainly because most people don't even know their rights when asked, what the Bill of Rights is, says, or guarantees, they just take the word of authority figures as gospel even when they are being denied their rights and screwed royaly! Most people don't realize that police have no "special" rights that we don't have, and every arrest made is a citizens arrest in doing a job they are "hired" to do on our behalf... like gov't, they work for us.... well, that's the way it's supposed to be. Their motto "Protect and Serve" has long been forgotten when the people are concerned. They now work for DHS, Wall street and the corporations. |
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What were the founding fathers thinking of when they wrote "a well regulated militia"? And what kind of "arms" were they talking about back in 1775? It doesn't matter what they were talking about in 1775. This is what they are talking about now. http://www.awrm.org/Gear.htm Well then, if historical context doesn't matter, and what they were talking about doesn't matter, why not throw the whole thing out and start over again? |
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a good case can be made that the militia cited in the amendment is moot because we have civil partrols, the National Guard, local and state police and a standing army. Not that some kind of gun ownership would not be possible. The ammendment is probably intentionally vague in order to be flexible and organic we will do our own constitutional measurement of ms feinstein's proposal, thank you I wish people from other countries would mind their own backyards and stay out of ours Seriously? ![]() As it has been pointed out: "I think the people in a lot of "other countries" are saying that the US government should mind its own backyard & stay out of theirs. (or haven't you noticed that it has 800 manned military bases and several wars of aggression going all over the world?)" I second that! If America falls to oppression and loses its freedom, the rest of the world is lost. It will be a very very dark world. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 01/01/13 04:11 PM
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p.s.
Senator Feinstein is a treasonist Nazi *****. (fill in the stars with anything you like.) |
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"The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people."
The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788. |
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"The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people." The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788. ![]() ![]() |
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