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Sometimes I think dating is like job searching. The more rejections you get, the more you start to question yourself, which can lead to depression and anger. You have nurture yourself through this period.
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Sometimes I think dating is like job searching. The more rejections you get, the more you start to question yourself, which can lead to depression and anger. You have nurture yourself through this period. Pretty good analogy. |
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But, I do see you complaining that women aren't standing up for men who are put down, but you're not standing up for women in this thread when men put them down. At least not to everyone who is trying to insult women. I would think that because you're so upset about men being put down that you'd always be standing up for women when they're being put down as well. That is a fair criticism of me. You don't appreciate me being silent on this thread while men make sexist comments against women. Now you know how I feel whenever a woman in these forums makes sexist comments against men and other women keep silent about it. If my silence is wrong, then isn't the silence of those other women also wrong? My silence up to this point was meant to serve a purpose, which was to illustrate what has been happening in the forums, but with the genders reversed. |
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What about the way that people respond to such put downs? Are the responses equal? in my experience it all depends on the individual.. each reacts differently to any given situation.. there's no one unilateral response.. 
Are you saying that situation ethics is acceptable, that it's OK to give one form of sexual prejudice a pass while condemning another form? No.I am only saying that each individual reacts differently in any situation. Actually, that's not true. There are only three ways you can react in the situation we are discussing. Your reaction can be positive, negative or neutral (you don't care). If everyone reacted differently there could be no behavioral studies where we learn what typical human behavior is at any given time in history. There may not be 100% of the people will do xyz but there is usually a majority or percentages that can be determined. |
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But, I do see you complaining that women aren't standing up for men who are put down, but you're not standing up for women in this thread when men put them down. At least not to everyone who is trying to insult women. I would think that because you're so upset about men being put down that you'd always be standing up for women when they're being put down as well. That is a fair criticism of me. You don't appreciate me being silent on this thread while men make sexist comments against women. Now you know how I feel whenever a woman in these forums makes sexist comments against men and other women keep silent about it. If my silence is wrong, then isn't the silence of those other women also wrong? My silence up to this point was meant to serve a purpose, which was to illustrate what has been happening in the forums, but with the genders reversed. You can say or not say whatever you want. I was just pointing out you being a hypocrite. That's all. |
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In spite of all the fighting over who is right and who is wrong, statistics still confirm it's a man's world...Stats also confirm that the majority of sexual harassment lawsuits are filed by women against men...Women are making progress in their fight for equality (and trust me, it is a fight), but they still have a long way to go...Last year, 11,364 sexual harassment lawsuits were filed...Only 16.3% were filed by men and all of these were NOT FILED AGAINST WOMEN, some were filed against other men  ...The 15 year chart from the United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission also shows that over the past decade and a half not much has changed when it comes to men sexually harassing women in the workplace...How many want to bet this 16%/84% IMBALANCE runs true in areas outside the workplace too?...
http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment.cfm And kudos Kahurangi  ...You hit the nail squarely on the head (no pun intended) by pointing out the disparity between "people" in their 50's and "people" in their 20's...Three decades is a BIG learning curve and gives the older "person" one hell of an advantage....
1) I am not 50 yet. And each day I have to live under the shadow of someone else's beliefs is one more day of happiness I am robbed of and one more day I get closer to that number 50. Age is a number in a lot of cases. You want something to get fumed about, how about that 50 year old man buying child brides that are pre teen girls? That does go on in countries especially in the Middle East and South America. 2) Mindset plays a lot into this. There is a difference between someone in their 50 wanting to live a happy life and someone in their 50s trying to pretend they are younger. 3) Women still call the shots where mating is concerned unless a man goes the rout of the Conqueror. I am sure I could have what I want if I decided to be the ultrabastard and just take what I want and harm any who deny me. So should I resort to "Might makes Right?" Is that what it will take for me to "get the girl?" And I thought we were supposed to be evolved! and 4) a song for all of you! Actually women have run things from behind the scenes for as long as history. And that doesn't count the societies run by women. I find is actually Ironic I offer the equality women act like they want but look at the men they keep going for. The ones who dominate them predisposing that the woman thinks she is in control of them. I know married guys who are so puzzy-whipped they actually comer off as spineless to me. Yeah, all of us men are bastards... Your happiness (and your anger) is your responsibility, not mine....I'm not fuming and I'm not talking about the ME...I feel the statistics have merit and I was addressing a comment made by another poster Andy, it had nothing to do with you or your desire to breed...It's ridiculous to say women call all of the shots where mating is concerned...If by mating you mean procreation, we do have a biological advantage AFTER conception, but it's not cost free....Pregnancy places big demands on a woman's body as well as her daily activities, but I'm sure you already know this.... |
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But, I do see you complaining that women aren't standing up for men who are put down, but you're not standing up for women in this thread when men put them down. At least not to everyone who is trying to insult women. I would think that because you're so upset about men being put down that you'd always be standing up for women when they're being put down as well. That is a fair criticism of me. You don't appreciate me being silent on this thread while men make sexist comments against women. Now you know how I feel whenever a woman in these forums makes sexist comments against men and other women keep silent about it. If my silence is wrong, then isn't the silence of those other women also wrong? My silence up to this point was meant to serve a purpose, which was to illustrate what has been happening in the forums, but with the genders reversed. You can say or not say whatever you want. I was just pointing out you being a hypocrite. That's all. Then the proper way for me to respond is to do this to myself: 
Thankfully, I have become an expert at it. |
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But, I do see you complaining that women aren't standing up for men who are put down, but you're not standing up for women in this thread when men put them down. At least not to everyone who is trying to insult women. I would think that because you're so upset about men being put down that you'd always be standing up for women when they're being put down as well. That is a fair criticism of me. You don't appreciate me being silent on this thread while men make sexist comments against women. Now you know how I feel whenever a woman in these forums makes sexist comments against men and other women keep silent about it. If my silence is wrong, then isn't the silence of those other women also wrong? My silence up to this point was meant to serve a purpose, which was to illustrate what has been happening in the forums, but with the genders reversed. You can say or not say whatever you want. I was just pointing out you being a hypocrite. That's all. Gosh! In reading various posts and learning about people, I have seen people say one thing here and another thing there and I think gee they are very hypocrital. But I would never have the gumption to tell them. |
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But, I do see you complaining that women aren't standing up for men who are put down, but you're not standing up for women in this thread when men put them down. At least not to everyone who is trying to insult women. I would think that because you're so upset about men being put down that you'd always be standing up for women when they're being put down as well. That is a fair criticism of me. You don't appreciate me being silent on this thread while men make sexist comments against women. Now you know how I feel whenever a woman in these forums makes sexist comments against men and other women keep silent about it. If my silence is wrong, then isn't the silence of those other women also wrong? My silence up to this point was meant to serve a purpose, which was to illustrate what has been happening in the forums, but with the genders reversed. You can say or not say whatever you want. I was just pointing out you being a hypocrite. That's all. Gosh! In reading various posts and learning about people, I have seen people say one thing here and another thing there and I think gee they are very hypocrital. But I would never have the gumption to tell them. Oh come on "T", don't be such a sissy!..... Name that tune!!... 
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In spite of all the fighting over who is right and who is wrong, statistics still confirm it's a man's world...Stats also confirm that the majority of sexual harassment lawsuits are filed by women against men...Women are making progress in their fight for equality (and trust me, it is a fight), but they still have a long way to go...Last year, 11,364 sexual harassment lawsuits were filed...Only 16.3% were filed by men and all of these were NOT FILED AGAINST WOMEN, some were filed against other men ...The 15 year chart from the United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission also shows that over the past decade and a half not much has changed when it comes to men sexually harassing women in the workplace...How many want to bet this 16%/84% IMBALANCE runs true in areas outside the workplace too?...
http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment.cfm And kudos Kahurangi ...You hit the nail squarely on the head (no pun intended) by pointing out the disparity between "people" in their 50's and "people" in their 20's...Three decades is a BIG learning curve and gives the older "person" one hell of an advantage....
1) I am not 50 yet. And each day I have to live under the shadow of someone else's beliefs is one more day of happiness I am robbed of and one more day I get closer to that number 50. Age is a number in a lot of cases. You want something to get fumed about, how about that 50 year old man buying child brides that are pre teen girls? That does go on in countries especially in the Middle East and South America. 2) Mindset plays a lot into this. There is a difference between someone in their 50 wanting to live a happy life and someone in their 50s trying to pretend they are younger. 3) Women still call the shots where mating is concerned unless a man goes the rout of the Conqueror. I am sure I could have what I want if I decided to be the ultrabastard and just take what I want and harm any who deny me. So should I resort to "Might makes Right?" Is that what it will take for me to "get the girl?" And I thought we were supposed to be evolved! and 4) a song for all of you! Actually women have run things from behind the scenes for as long as history. And that doesn't count the societies run by women. I find is actually Ironic I offer the equality women act like they want but look at the men they keep going for. The ones who dominate them predisposing that the woman thinks she is in control of them. I know married guys who are so puzzy-whipped they actually comer off as spineless to me. Yeah, all of us men are bastards... Your happiness (and your anger) is your responsibility, not mine....I'm not fuming and I'm not talking about the ME...I feel the statistics have merit and I was addressing a comment made by another poster Andy, it had nothing to do with you or your desire to breed...It's ridiculous to say women call all of the shots where mating is concerned...If by mating you mean procreation, we do have a biological advantage AFTER conception, but it's not cost free....Pregnancy places big demands on a woman's body as well as her daily activities, but I'm sure you already know this.... PUHLEASE! You are telling me that women in this society don't have a choice to chose their mates? AS IF! What planet are you on? You seriously think women don't get to call the shots here? If this were a place where I could just "Take what I want" from women I would have four in my house NOW and if I felt compelled I would go out and capture another today out of boredom! If I didn't know any better I would say you were pointing your finger at me right now and trying to politely call me a bastard for expressing my opinion and observation. AND STATISTICS CAN BE MADE TO EXPRESS WHATEVER YOU WANT THEM TO EXPRESS! There are more sociological factors to take into account as well as biological ones. Your argument is very Homocentric and egocentric more so than mine. At least I qualify my statement as MY opinion not trying to prop up my statement and argument on other people's facts especially when they leave out a lot of information. Women statistically treat men like OBJECTS just like MEN treat women like objects! But just because it is a woman WHINING about how badly treated they are justification for THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR, statistically speaking???? Come on, this is a passive aggressive attack on me. |
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In spite of all the fighting over who is right and who is wrong, statistics still confirm it's a man's world...Stats also confirm that the majority of sexual harassment lawsuits are filed by women against men...Women are making progress in their fight for equality (and trust me, it is a fight), but they still have a long way to go...Last year, 11,364 sexual harassment lawsuits were filed...Only 16.3% were filed by men and all of these were NOT FILED AGAINST WOMEN, some were filed against other men ...The 15 year chart from the United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission also shows that over the past decade and a half not much has changed when it comes to men sexually harassing women in the workplace...How many want to bet this 16%/84% IMBALANCE runs true in areas outside the workplace too?...
http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment.cfm And kudos Kahurangi ...You hit the nail squarely on the head (no pun intended) by pointing out the disparity between "people" in their 50's and "people" in their 20's...Three decades is a BIG learning curve and gives the older "person" one hell of an advantage....
1) I am not 50 yet. And each day I have to live under the shadow of someone else's beliefs is one more day of happiness I am robbed of and one more day I get closer to that number 50. Age is a number in a lot of cases. You want something to get fumed about, how about that 50 year old man buying child brides that are pre teen girls? That does go on in countries especially in the Middle East and South America. 2) Mindset plays a lot into this. There is a difference between someone in their 50 wanting to live a happy life and someone in their 50s trying to pretend they are younger. 3) Women still call the shots where mating is concerned unless a man goes the rout of the Conqueror. I am sure I could have what I want if I decided to be the ultrabastard and just take what I want and harm any who deny me. So should I resort to "Might makes Right?" Is that what it will take for me to "get the girl?" And I thought we were supposed to be evolved! and 4) a song for all of you! Actually women have run things from behind the scenes for as long as history. And that doesn't count the societies run by women. I find is actually Ironic I offer the equality women act like they want but look at the men they keep going for. The ones who dominate them predisposing that the woman thinks she is in control of them. I know married guys who are so puzzy-whipped they actually comer off as spineless to me. Yeah, all of us men are bastards... Your happiness (and your anger) is your responsibility, not mine....I'm not fuming and I'm not talking about the ME...I feel the statistics have merit and I was addressing a comment made by another poster Andy, it had nothing to do with you or your desire to breed...It's ridiculous to say women call all of the shots where mating is concerned...If by mating you mean procreation, we do have a biological advantage AFTER conception, but it's not cost free....Pregnancy places big demands on a woman's body as well as her daily activities, but I'm sure you already know this.... PUHLEASE! You are telling me that women in this society don't have a choice to chose their mates? AS IF! What planet are you on? You seriously think women don't get to call the shots here? If this were a place where I could just "Take what I want" from women I would have four in my house NOW and if I felt compelled I would go out and capture another today out of boredom! If I didn't know any better I would say you were pointing your finger at me right now and trying to politely call me a bastard for expressing my opinion and observation. AND STATISTICS CAN BE MADE TO EXPRESS WHATEVER YOU WANT THEM TO EXPRESS! There are more sociological factors to take into account as well as biological ones. Your argument is very Homocentric and egocentric more so than mine. At least I qualify my statement as MY opinion not trying to prop up my statement and argument on other people's facts especially when they leave out a lot of information. Women statistically treat men like OBJECTS just like MEN treat women like objects! But just because it is a woman WHINING about how badly treated they are justification for THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR, statistically speaking???? Come on, this is a passive aggressive attack on me. Oh gee Andy, you're on to me
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It was not my intention to offened any woman/women in this forum/thread. Only to present the fact/case that men's feelings are being ignored, when it is apparent that men are to suppress them when offened by women base upon the differences' of childhood learning/education. Men that express their feeling openly are generally critizied by both genders, this I don't think can be denied (GENERALLY SPEAKING).
As for age differences, if I am correct women prefer older men because of maturity/life experiences. Women want a man who they understand to some degree, and are not going to demonstrate immature behaviour as frequent as younger men. This hasn't changed the divorce rate in present day society. Maybe to have a lower divorce rate a greater age difference is successful. This is not about sexuality this is about relationships and what works. Sexual harassment is only one issue, which is highly publized to develope awareness. The percentage numbers are based on how many people complain not how many people are harassed. Sexual harassment is more than (SEXUAL CONTENT)it also includes OSTRACIZISM in society where people know nothing about an individual they are ostracizing, but follow bad leadership (People complain about bad leadership in many parts of society, but don't provide critical thinking in this area). I could "BUT WILL NOT" tell you some amazing stories where women are part of sexual misbehaviour towards men. Society is to learn from these mistakes and learn how to prevent this issue and it include's relationships of age differences. Men fail to report these issue generally, because how society will respond to them. This is learned behaviour by both genders. I don't think anyone is trying to be a hypocrite, just trying to express their life experiences to others for a open discussion on how to improve our lives and create a successful society. And life experience does not have to be considered as one's immediate life, but also include's what they've learned in the community around them that they know as fact, "NOT ASSUMPTION". |
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Read the book "Real Boys". Men not crying, walking it off, suppressing their feelings, etc. This is how men are raised and indoctrinated to act. It is shameful. Boys are molested less than girls, however a boys molestation is typical much more violent. I don't know how women are raised. I think we should just be thankful we made and learn to be gentle and kind to each other
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PUHLEASE! You are telling me that women in this society don't have a choice to chose their mates? AS IF! What planet are you on? You seriously think women don't get to call the shots here? If this were a place where I could just "Take what I want" from women I would have four in my house NOW and if I felt compelled I would go out and capture another today out of boredom! If I didn't know any better I would say you were pointing your finger at me right now and trying to politely call me a bastard for expressing my opinion and observation. AND STATISTICS CAN BE MADE TO EXPRESS WHATEVER YOU WANT THEM TO EXPRESS! There are more sociological factors to take into account as well as biological ones. Your argument is very Homocentric and egocentric more so than mine. At least I qualify my statement as MY opinion not trying to prop up my statement and argument on other people's facts especially when they leave out a lot of information. Women statistically treat men like OBJECTS just like MEN treat women like objects! But just because it is a woman WHINING about how badly treated they are justification for THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR, statistically speaking???? Come on, this is a passive aggressive attack on me. Andy, I do wish that you would take a chill pill. I still haven't figured out how the burr under your saddle is related to the anti-male sexual prejudice that I have seen expressed in these forums or to the male bashing in the USA mentioned in the OP. You have expressed frustration because of how women in California respond to your age and income level, but such a response from women doesn't appear to me to be a response to your gender. In this thread, you come across as being angry toward all women. Perhaps you are not, but that is how some people here perceive you. You need to do something to change that perception if it isn't correct. If it is correct, then you are taking your anger out on some innocent people. |
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It was not my intention to offened any woman/women in this forum/thread. Only to present the fact/case that men's feelings are being ignored, when it is apparent that men are to suppress them when offened by women base upon the differences' of childhood learning/education. Men that express their feeling openly are generally critizied by both genders, this I don't think can be denied (GENERALLY SPEAKING). As for age differences, if I am correct women prefer older men because of maturity/life experiences. Women want a man who they understand to some degree, and are not going to demonstrate immature behaviour as frequent as younger men. This hasn't changed the divorce rate in present day society. Maybe to have a lower divorce rate a greater age difference is successful. This is not about sexuality this is about relationships and what works. Sexual harassment is only one issue, which is highly publized to develope awareness. The percentage numbers are based on how many people complain not how many people are harassed. Sexual harassment is more than (SEXUAL CONTENT)it also includes OSTRACIZISM in society where people know nothing about an individual they are ostracizing, but follow bad leadership (People complain about bad leadership in many parts of society, but don't provide critical thinking in this area). I could "BUT WILL NOT" tell you some amazing stories where women are part of sexual misbehaviour towards men. Society is to learn from these mistakes and learn how to prevent this issue and it include's relationships of age differences. Men fail to report these issue generally, because how society will respond to them. This is learned behaviour by both genders. I don't think anyone is trying to be a hypocrite, just trying to express their life experiences to others for a open discussion on how to improve our lives and create a successful society. And life experience does not have to be considered as one's immediate life, but also include's what they've learned in the community around them that they know as fact, "NOT ASSUMPTION". What feelings do you believe that men have that are being ignored? And why are you assuming that women go for older men? Older men can absolutely be immature, just as younger men can be mature. I don't prefer older men. I actually prefer men my age or a bit younger. |
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It was not my intention to offened any woman/women in this forum/thread. Only to present the fact/case that men's feelings are being ignored, when it is apparent that men are to suppress them when offened by women base upon the differences' of childhood learning/education. Men that express their feeling openly are generally critizied by both genders, this I don't think can be denied (GENERALLY SPEAKING). As for age differences, if I am correct women prefer older men because of maturity/life experiences. Women want a man who they understand to some degree, and are not going to demonstrate immature behaviour as frequent as younger men. This hasn't changed the divorce rate in present day society. Maybe to have a lower divorce rate a greater age difference is successful. This is not about sexuality this is about relationships and what works. Sexual harassment is only one issue, which is highly publized to develope awareness. The percentage numbers are based on how many people complain not how many people are harassed. Sexual harassment is more than (SEXUAL CONTENT)it also includes OSTRACIZISM in society where people know nothing about an individual they are ostracizing, but follow bad leadership (People complain about bad leadership in many parts of society, but don't provide critical thinking in this area). I could "BUT WILL NOT" tell you some amazing stories where women are part of sexual misbehaviour towards men. Society is to learn from these mistakes and learn how to prevent this issue and it include's relationships of age differences. Men fail to report these issue generally, because how society will respond to them. This is learned behaviour by both genders. I don't think anyone is trying to be a hypocrite, just trying to express their life experiences to others for a open discussion on how to improve our lives and create a successful society. And life experience does not have to be considered as one's immediate life, but also include's what they've learned in the community around them that they know as fact, "NOT ASSUMPTION". What feelings do you believe that men have that are being ignored? And why are you assuming that women go for older men? Older men can absolutely be immature, just as younger men can be mature. I don't prefer older men. I actually prefer men my age or a bit younger. First you need to understand men outside the circle you care for. As for feeling's it's what we as men agree with women about, but when a male objects to a woman/women opinion on a topic men feel their being attached for there opinion on how they see the facts of the issue. When I was younger I had relationships with older women, but no one insulted them for their interest in a man almost half their age. Yes older men can be immature also, that maybe the life style one choses to live. You chosing men younger than you may be caused by your sexual drive if your in your thirties. This also depends if your in a relationship and if you've lost interest in your partner. Both genders behave similar in many way's, but usually one gender is critizied more than the other; depending on the abundences' of relationships/networking one has. Personally I feel one should have respect for their partner and leave before starting another relationship. |
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It was not my intention to offened any woman/women in this forum/thread. Only to present the fact/case that men's feelings are being ignored, when it is apparent that men are to suppress them when offened by women base upon the differences' of childhood learning/education. Men that express their feeling openly are generally critizied by both genders, this I don't think can be denied (GENERALLY SPEAKING). As for age differences, if I am correct women prefer older men because of maturity/life experiences. Women want a man who they understand to some degree, and are not going to demonstrate immature behaviour as frequent as younger men. This hasn't changed the divorce rate in present day society. Maybe to have a lower divorce rate a greater age difference is successful. This is not about sexuality this is about relationships and what works. Sexual harassment is only one issue, which is highly publized to develope awareness. The percentage numbers are based on how many people complain not how many people are harassed. Sexual harassment is more than (SEXUAL CONTENT)it also includes OSTRACIZISM in society where people know nothing about an individual they are ostracizing, but follow bad leadership (People complain about bad leadership in many parts of society, but don't provide critical thinking in this area). I could "BUT WILL NOT" tell you some amazing stories where women are part of sexual misbehaviour towards men. Society is to learn from these mistakes and learn how to prevent this issue and it include's relationships of age differences. Men fail to report these issue generally, because how society will respond to them. This is learned behaviour by both genders. I don't think anyone is trying to be a hypocrite, just trying to express their life experiences to others for a open discussion on how to improve our lives and create a successful society. And life experience does not have to be considered as one's immediate life, but also include's what they've learned in the community around them that they know as fact, "NOT ASSUMPTION". What feelings do you believe that men have that are being ignored? And why are you assuming that women go for older men? Older men can absolutely be immature, just as younger men can be mature. I don't prefer older men. I actually prefer men my age or a bit younger. First you need to understand men outside the circle you care for. As for feeling's it's what we as men agree with women about, but when a male objects to a woman/women opinion on a topic men feel their being attached for there opinion on how they see the facts of the issue. When I was younger I had relationships with older women, but no one insulted them for their interest in a man almost half their age. Yes older men can be immature also, that maybe the life style one choses to live. You chosing men younger than you may be caused by your sexual drive if your in your thirties. This also depends if your in a relationship and if you've lost interest in your partner. Both genders behave similar in many way's, but usually one gender is critizied more than the other; depending on the abundences' of relationships/networking one has. Personally I feel one should have respect for their partner and leave before starting another relationship. How do you feel I am not understanding men outside the circle of people I care for? Can you provide examples of these feelings you're talking about that you believe men are being attacked for? Women are put down all the time for having interest in much younger men and called things like cougars. Why do you think you understand why I choose men that I am interested in? Have I mentioned sexual drive or not having interest in a partner? You seem to make a lot of assumptions. |
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Read the book "Real Boys". Men not crying, walking it off, suppressing their feelings, etc. This is how men are raised and indoctrinated to act. It is shameful. Boys are molested less than girls, however a boys molestation is typical much more violent. I don't know how women are raised. I think we should just be thankful we made and learn to be gentle and kind to each other
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PUHLEASE! You are telling me that women in this society don't have a choice to chose their mates? AS IF! What planet are you on? You seriously think women don't get to call the shots here? If this were a place where I could just "Take what I want" from women I would have four in my house NOW and if I felt compelled I would go out and capture another today out of boredom! If I didn't know any better I would say you were pointing your finger at me right now and trying to politely call me a bastard for expressing my opinion and observation. AND STATISTICS CAN BE MADE TO EXPRESS WHATEVER YOU WANT THEM TO EXPRESS! There are more sociological factors to take into account as well as biological ones. Your argument is very Homocentric and egocentric more so than mine. At least I qualify my statement as MY opinion not trying to prop up my statement and argument on other people's facts especially when they leave out a lot of information. Women statistically treat men like OBJECTS just like MEN treat women like objects! But just because it is a woman WHINING about how badly treated they are justification for THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR, statistically speaking???? Come on, this is a passive aggressive attack on me. Andy, I do wish that you would take a chill pill. I still haven't figured out how the burr under your saddle is related to the anti-male sexual prejudice that I have seen expressed in these forums or to the male bashing in the USA mentioned in the OP. You have expressed frustration because of how women in California respond to your age and income level, but such a response from women doesn't appear to me to be a response to your gender. In this thread, you come across as being angry toward all women. Perhaps you are not, but that is how some people here perceive you. You need to do something to change that perception if it isn't correct. If it is correct, then you are taking your anger out on some innocent people. I am not angry at women. I am angry at the hypocrisy of our society. I just can't seem to find the right words or relate far too much to my own life experience. What I hate most is feeling like I have been living a lie for YEARS and that others perpetuated that lie even knowing I was catching on to it. The sick thing to me is that I can be in a crowd of people and feel utterly alone and detached. I always feel like I am something different stuck inside of a human skin to give some deity a good laugh but when I like in a mirror all I see is another human looking back at me. And yet when I am among my "fellow human" I can't get past this feeling, 
People want to control this crap with drugs. They go to alcohol. they go to some exotic extremes to deal with being alone. People call it depression. They try Therapy. they try religion. They try Social Peer Groups. None of this crap works for me. I addressed dealing with years of PTSD and dealing with that ball of wax. I had time to full evaluate myself and where I stand in life. Really of all things possible in life I just want to be in the loop for a change. That is why I am so lathered up... I am sick and tired of people telling me something is wrong with me when I have been addressing what was wrong with me. This is a case where the sickness of others is being projected on to me. Living feeling like an outcast among your own is the WORST thing I can think of short of living trapped on a desolate island alone! Besides, there is a huge difference at me being angry at women in general vs. expressing an opinion passionately! Even for all the things others have done to me in the past one fact remains I cannot escape no matter how I chose to view it, WE ALL DIG OUR OWN HOLES BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THEM! Seriously, am I really that maladjusted? Or am I just too much of a male Human for my own good? |
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It was not my intention to offened any woman/women in this forum/thread. Only to present the fact/case that men's feelings are being ignored, when it is apparent that men are to suppress them when offened by women base upon the differences' of childhood learning/education. Men that express their feeling openly are generally critizied by both genders, this I don't think can be denied (GENERALLY SPEAKING). As for age differences, if I am correct women prefer older men because of maturity/life experiences. Women want a man who they understand to some degree, and are not going to demonstrate immature behaviour as frequent as younger men. This hasn't changed the divorce rate in present day society. Maybe to have a lower divorce rate a greater age difference is successful. This is not about sexuality this is about relationships and what works. Sexual harassment is only one issue, which is highly publized to develope awareness. The percentage numbers are based on how many people complain not how many people are harassed. Sexual harassment is more than (SEXUAL CONTENT)it also includes OSTRACIZISM in society where people know nothing about an individual they are ostracizing, but follow bad leadership (People complain about bad leadership in many parts of society, but don't provide critical thinking in this area). I could "BUT WILL NOT" tell you some amazing stories where women are part of sexual misbehaviour towards men. Society is to learn from these mistakes and learn how to prevent this issue and it include's relationships of age differences. Men fail to report these issue generally, because how society will respond to them. This is learned behaviour by both genders. I don't think anyone is trying to be a hypocrite, just trying to express their life experiences to others for a open discussion on how to improve our lives and create a successful society. And life experience does not have to be considered as one's immediate life, but also include's what they've learned in the community around them that they know as fact, "NOT ASSUMPTION". What feelings do you believe that men have that are being ignored? And why are you assuming that women go for older men? Older men can absolutely be immature, just as younger men can be mature. I don't prefer older men. I actually prefer men my age or a bit younger. First you need to understand men outside the circle you care for. As for feeling's it's what we as men agree with women about, but when a male objects to a woman/women opinion on a topic men feel their being attached for there opinion on how they see the facts of the issue. When I was younger I had relationships with older women, but no one insulted them for their interest in a man almost half their age. Yes older men can be immature also, that maybe the life style one choses to live. You chosing men younger than you may be caused by your sexual drive if your in your thirties. This also depends if your in a relationship and if you've lost interest in your partner. Both genders behave similar in many way's, but usually one gender is critizied more than the other; depending on the abundences' of relationships/networking one has. Personally I feel one should have respect for their partner and leave before starting another relationship. How do you feel I am not understanding men outside the circle of people I care for? Can you provide examples of these feelings you're talking about that you believe men are being attacked for? Women are put down all the time for having interest in much younger men and called things like cougars. Why do you think you understand why I choose men that I am interested in? Have I mentioned sexual drive or not having interest in a partner? You seem to make a lot of assumptions. You did in a recent posting yesterday STATE "...that you do not care to understand men that you do not care for...". That society is to blame for you not wanting to understand these other men. If you read the postings in this discussion and postings in other discussions we've had over the last two day's you would understand the issues men feel they are being attached for, because they do not neccessarily agree with what a woman has stated as being fact. I personally don't mind if a woman date's a younger man that is her decision, such as it is a man's decission to date a younger woman. Or one gender prefers to date's the other gender that is older. I wasn't ASSUMING you dated for sexual issues I stated that it maybe part of a persons physiology, only I did not use the PHYSIOLOGY. |
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