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Thu 11/15/12 06:06 PM

The country is for the people and majority rules. Singlemindness is what won the last 2 elections for our president. The people have spoke and now others will get health insurance. America has changed, People want a fair chance at happiness, the poor need health care just like the rich. The computer has changed life in America it puts out a lot of information, more people vote for a change in thinking. Do not be afraid feel good about helping someone less fortune than you. Go volunteer at asoup kitchen or your local shelter. It will open your eyes. People are in trouble and need help badly. Theres no greater feeling than helping your fellow man. Look into a child eyes who's sick and the scared look in her mothers eyes Think of how paying a little more for things would help them and how good it would make you feel.


I have no problem with people helping. I have helped, adopted a family for Christmas. I volunteered at a place that provides clothes and other things for the poor. That is fine. I am not however responsible for them. I don't mind choosing to help but none should be forced to. I struggled to be where I am and I deserve to keep what I have earned.

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Thu 11/15/12 06:16 PM
I hate taxes too. I hate fines, fees, licences, penalties etc. They are all taxes. I understand people being angry at more regulations and more taxes. I have no idea how Obamacare will effect me or how much I will have to pay extra out of my income for it, or if the care will be any good. I try to stay as healthy as possible.

I dislike the corruption in this government and the way the banksters have cheated and stolen our wealth from us and how they manipulate the stock market. I hate all of that.

But employers should find a way to pay a living wage and if they did that, then people would be able to pay for healthcare. People deserve affordable healthcare. The drug companies are over charging, the doctors are overcharging, the hospitals are over charging. The costs are RIDICULOUS. UTTERLY RIDICULOUS.




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Thu 11/15/12 06:18 PM
Edited by jacktrades on Thu 11/15/12 06:27 PM
You're right you did earn what you got a do deserve your reward but you did it in a country that has many others. majority rules thats why the last election was not even close the people have spoke. Not all people in trouble are on drugs or drunks no one is reponsible for them its just the majority feels that heath care is for all. There can be different plans for people who can afford more no problem but the poor need help, there americans so we need to help them . We help other countries with money and medicine and even our soldiers lifes. We can help people that are our fellow citizens. Our bankers corrupt the system. Hospitals overcharge( 18 dollars for a tylenol) and our politicians are allowed to engage in insider trading. Im not saying obamacare is the answer but its a first step in helping poor people who are americans.No one wants to take anything you worked for but corruption steals trillions of dollars from our budget and its no big deal but try to help the poor thats considered a expense

Chazster's photo
Thu 11/15/12 06:19 PM

I hate taxes too. I hate fines, fees, licences, penalties etc. They are all taxes. I understand people being angry at more regulations and more taxes. I have no idea how Obamacare will effect me or how much I will have to pay extra out of my income for it, or if the care will be any good. I try to stay as healthy as possible.

I dislike the corruption in this government and the way the banksters have cheated and stolen our wealth from us and how they manipulate the stock market. I hate all of that.

But employers should find a way to pay a living wage and if they did that, then people would be able to pay for healthcare. People deserve affordable healthcare. The drug companies are over charging, the doctors are overcharging, the hospitals are over charging. The costs are RIDICULOUS. UTTERLY RIDICULOUS.






If people couldn't sue doctors it would be cheaper.

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Thu 11/15/12 06:20 PM

You're right you did earn what you got a do deserve your reward but you did it in a country that has many others. majority rules thats why the last election was not even close the people have spoke. Not all people in trouble are on drugs or drunks no one is reponsible for them its just the majority feels that heath care is for all. There can be different plans for people who can afford more no problem but the poor need help, there americans so we need to help them . We help other countries with money and medicine and even our soldiers lifes. We can help people that are our fellow citizens.


How was it not close ? He won by 2% that isn't close ? And it's not majority rules. This is a republic not a democracy.

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Thu 11/15/12 06:23 PM


You're right you did earn what you got a do deserve your reward but you did it in a country that has many others. majority rules thats why the last election was not even close the people have spoke. Not all people in trouble are on drugs or drunks no one is reponsible for them its just the majority feels that heath care is for all. There can be different plans for people who can afford more no problem but the poor need help, there americans so we need to help them . We help other countries with money and medicine and even our soldiers lifes. We can help people that are our fellow citizens.


How was it not close ? He won by 2% that isn't close ? And it's not majority rules. This is a republic not a democracy.


Not any more. Its not either.

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Thu 11/15/12 06:31 PM
Obama won by over 100 electorial votes. Close is not good enough. Romney got less votes than mccain. Thats how the people spoke majority rules simple

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Thu 11/15/12 06:37 PM

Obama won by over 100 electorial votes. Close is not good enough. Romney got less votes than mccain. Thats how the people spoke majority rules simple


Electoral is not the people. So quit saying the people have spoken.

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Thu 11/15/12 06:42 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 11/15/12 06:43 PM


Obama won by over 100 electorial votes. Close is not good enough. Romney got less votes than mccain. Thats how the people spoke majority rules simple


Electoral is not the people. So quit saying the people have spoken.



Yes it is.

That is the way it has always been done, like it or not.
He won, get over it people.

The people and the electoral college has spoken.


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Thu 11/15/12 06:42 PM
Edited by jacktrades on Thu 11/15/12 06:54 PM
When you win the election the people who voted for you won to because their candidate is president. No matter how you slice it up electorial votes get you in. The majority have spoke. The popular vote and the electorial votes went to obama just like the state you live in. The people have spoke by voting.

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Thu 11/15/12 07:56 PM



Obama won by over 100 electorial votes. Close is not good enough. Romney got less votes than mccain. Thats how the people spoke majority rules simple


Electoral is not the people. So quit saying the people have spoken.



Yes it is.

That is the way it has always been done, like it or not.
He won, get over it people.

The people and the electoral college has spoken.




I never said he didn't win. I said he didn't win by a large margin. The electoral is not the people Asia state can vote one way and their electoral vote doesn't have to follow that. When about 30% of a country votes and an election is won by 2% I down consider it a large margin. If we had a popular vote he could have won by more or lost as more people in non swing states don't vote.

Also many people are completely uninformed on politics so just because someone wins doesn't mean they support their policies or even know what thou are. That can be said for both sides of the aisle. Either way I will continue to support whichever candidate is the least big government.

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Thu 11/15/12 09:18 PM
Edited by jacktrades on Thu 11/15/12 09:30 PM

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Thu 11/15/12 09:47 PM

Obama won by over 100 electorial votes. Close is not good enough. Romney got less votes than mccain. Thats how the people spoke majority rules simple


Over 60 million spoke all right, they spoke and said they want the dictator out. Not to mention the tens of millions that didn't vote because they don't like him either.

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Thu 11/15/12 11:06 PM
Apparently that wasn't enough because he still won.

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Fri 11/16/12 12:26 AM

Apparently that wasn't enough because he still won.
Chicago,Chicago.........................laugh

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Fri 11/16/12 03:19 AM
My husband and I thought we had a great insurance plan. Plus my husband had Medicare too...But when he developed cancer we were in for a rude awakening concerning our coverage...All the unexpected bills and expenses (that weren't covered) pretty much wiped out our savings...Why has treatment become so expensive? Back in the 60's families could afford to pay for doctor visits and hospital stays and even childbirth out of their own pocket if need be...This was before corporations shipped so many jobs overseas. And before HMO's took over and became so greedy!...People who have lived long lives remember how things used to be back in the old days. (Before the era of non-stop corporate "hustling" and greed.)

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Fri 11/16/12 03:19 AM
Edited by GreenEyes48 on Fri 11/16/12 03:35 AM
Basically talk is cheap. (Until you or someone in your family faces a serious and life-threatening illness.)...Why have we become a nation of cannibals who go after each other?.. The corporations get off "scott free" while we "do battle" with our neighbors and blame them for escalating costs these days...Talk about "scams!" I hope people who defend corporations receive some type of "payola!" Otherwise you're working for free!

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Fri 11/16/12 03:45 AM


Apparently that wasn't enough because he still won.
Chicago,Chicago.........................laugh

Chazster's photo
Fri 11/16/12 06:15 AM

My husband and I thought we had a great insurance plan. Plus my husband had Medicare too...But when he developed cancer we were in for a rude awakening concerning our coverage...All the unexpected bills and expenses (that weren't covered) pretty much wiped out our savings...Why has treatment become so expensive? Back in the 60's families could afford to pay for doctor visits and hospital stays and even childbirth out of their own pocket if need be...This was before corporations shipped so many jobs overseas. And before HMO's took over and became so greedy!...People who have lived long lives remember how things used to be back in the old days. (Before the era of non-stop corporate "hustling" and greed.)


Why are things so expensive? 1 technology 2 inflation 3 malpractice insurance.

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Fri 11/16/12 07:58 AM


My husband and I thought we had a great insurance plan. Plus my husband had Medicare too...But when he developed cancer we were in for a rude awakening concerning our coverage...All the unexpected bills and expenses (that weren't covered) pretty much wiped out our savings...Why has treatment become so expensive? Back in the 60's families could afford to pay for doctor visits and hospital stays and even childbirth out of their own pocket if need be...This was before corporations shipped so many jobs overseas. And before HMO's took over and became so greedy!...People who have lived long lives remember how things used to be back in the old days. (Before the era of non-stop corporate "hustling" and greed.)


Why are things so expensive? 1 technology 2 inflation 3 malpractice insurance.


"Florida has some of the highest rates of liability insurance. Moreover, the deviation between low and high averages varies in Florida more widely than in almost any other state. For instance, a doctor in internal medicine in Florida could expect to pay in excess of $56,000 per year for insurance as of 2009, in contrast with Minnesota's $4,000. General surgeons paid in between $90,000 per year and $175,000 per year or more. OB/GYNs once again could expect the highest rates, with liability coverage ranging from $100,000 to $200,000 per year.

Read more: The Average Cost for Medical Malpractice Insurance | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5514154_average-cost-medical-malpractice-insurance.html#ixzz2COvbj4XM"

These costs are a result of legislation by the "Trial Lawyer's Association" , a democratic lobby group. Here is an example ...

America's Ongoing Tort Litigation Nightmare
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When companies break the law or produce a defective product, they should, and are, held accountable. But the problem with our nation’s tort system is that so often companies are punished when they haven’t done anything wrong – sometimes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. And the problem is only getting worse.

Tort litigation costs Americans more than $250 billion, that’s the equivalent to 2.2 percent of GDP and roughly $838 per person, according to Towers Watson. This has real economic consequences. In healthcare alone, it’s estimated that tort reform could eliminate up 27 percent of medical costs. In other words, 27 cents of every healthcare dollar goes toward litigation. How does that help lower- and middle-class families struggling to make ends meet?

A case study on America’s tort crisis is playing out in New York. In 2004, a young physical therapist was tragically paralyzed after she pulled a piece of exercise equipment on top of herself. The equipment, a Cybex leg extension machine, was not broken or faulty. Rather, the machine tipped because the therapist wasn’t using it properly – she was standing on the side of the machine pulling backward in order to stretch. Nevertheless, she was awarded the largest personal-injury verdict in Western N.Y. history, a whopping $65 million.

Now, no one argues that what happened to this woman wasn’t terrible. But to punish a company that’s product was not faulty and is safe when used properly is a travesty of our justice system. What about the hundreds of Cybex employees, whose very livelihoods are in danger?

But Cybex is just the tip of the iceberg in Americas’ tort nightmare. With the public policy debate heating up on how to get the economy started and secure the middle class, its obvious tort reform deserves to be front and center.

The force behind the abuse is the well-heeled trial lawyer lobby which claims that tort reform would hurt the average American. In truth, tort reform would only hurt trial lawyers and would provide an immediate boost to the economy....


Chaz is right.