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I created this poll because I'm really curious about the numbers, especially among people who are within my purview. Please answer it, leave a comment and pass it around!
Vote here. http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/379-was-911-an-inside-job-poll.html so far its 75.7 for yes its an inside job 12.9% no it was not an inside job. and 1.5% for none of the above. The poll is current cast your vote. |
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OH, heck yea. We all know it but we just don't care.
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep.
If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) |
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all of it points to being an inside , but even if it wasn't it was sure used by the polaticain for there own pet projects
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 10/21/12 11:16 PM
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'Appeal to Popularity' {argumentum ad populum} or the 'Bandwagon Fallacy'
Etymology: The name "bandwagon fallacy" comes from the phrase "jump on the bandwagon" or "climb on the bandwagon", a bandwagon being a wagon big enough to hold a band of musicians. In past political campaigns, candidates would ride a bandwagon through town, and people would show support for the candidate by climbing aboard the wagon. The phrase has come to refer to joining a cause because of its popularity. Alias: •Appeal to Popularity •Argument by Consensus •Argumentum ad Populum •Authority of the Many Form: Idea I is popular. Therefore, I is correct. Example: Everyone is selfish; everyone is doing what he believes will make himself happier. The recognition of that can take most of the sting out of accusations that you're being "selfish." Why should you feel guilty for seeking your own happiness when that's what everyone else is doing, too? Source: Harry Browne, "The Unselfishness Trap", from How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World (1973). Exposition: The Bandwagon Fallacy is committed whenever one argues for an idea based upon an irrelevant appeal to its popularity. Exposure: Advertising is a rich source of Bandwagon arguments, with many products claiming to be "number 1" or "most popular", even though this is irrelevant to the product's merits. Q&A Q: I have recently been thinking about the possibility of the system of democracy being based on the Appeal to Popularity fallacy: Form Instance Idea X is popular. Therefore, X is correct. Idea of a specific politician being president is popular. Therefore, the specific politician is the more competent leader. However, I am unable to verify that this is the case. It also conflicts with the possibility that the election of a leader based on his/her popularity is not to determine whether the selection is right or wrong, but rather to fulfill the desires of the people. I hope to hear your opinion on this issue.―M.F. A: Your latter suggestion is on the right track. Keep in mind that a logical fallacy is a type of argument, that is, a set of propositions consisting of premisses and a conclusion. An election is not an argument with the conclusion that, say, a certain candidate will make the best president; rather, an election is a way of selecting a candidate for a position. Since an election isn't an argument, a fortiori, it isn't a fallacious argument. So, to criticize democracy as a bandwagon appeal would be to commit a category mistake, because a political system is not the sort of thing to be fallacious. A genuine instance of the bandwagon fallacy is the argument that you should vote for a certain candidate because the majority of people support that candidate, or the candidate is popular. This is the origin of the phrase "to jump on the bandwagon". Of course, none of this is to say whether democracy is the best, or even a good, way of choosing candidates for office. However, it is to say that evaluating democracy is not a purely logical question, but an ethical, philosophical, and even empirical question. Source: S. Morris Engel, With Good Reason: An Introduction to Informal Fallacies (Fifth Edition) (St. Martin's, 1994), pp. 223-225. Resource: James B. Freeman, "The Appeal to Popularity and Presumption by Common Knowledge", in Fallacies: Classical and Contemporary Readings, edited by Hans V. Hanson and Robert C. Pinto (Penn State Press, 1995), pp. 265-273. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/bandwagn.html "Ignorance has an unpleasant way of turning into hysteria. We are fortunate that those in power - on both sides of the House - don't give any credence at all to these ravings. Under other circumstances, we could have seen things turn very nasty as happens when the extraordinary popular delusion becomes entwined with the madness of the crowd." http://digitaljournal.com/article/331530 So, is the following poll valid? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081027165513AA4peQq "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." "No just undereducated." |
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Holy Mackerel!
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bandwagon_argument   yep,that Bandwagon! 't'ain't pretty!  |
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) |
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 In total agreement!
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Mon 10/22/12 03:14 AM
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) Scientific Principles and Truth decided by Popular Kneejerk! Forgot to mention that Matters of Technology and Applied Physics are decided by Lawyers now! Hoodah Thunkit? |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 10/22/12 06:33 AM
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my two cents
we shouldnt confuse people not being interested in a thread as 'not caring' about life or the world in general its ONE thread in a forum that people may or may not feel interested in responding to.... personally, although I feel people can be greedy and corrupt, I dont believe there is a level of collective intelligence within the government departments to pull off something like an 'inside job' of the nature implied I do believe information was revealed very early on that could have lead to prevention, and I believe prevention was decided against and the event permitted to follow through whether as a way to call bin ladens bluff, because the intelligence was stronger that it wouldnt happen than that it would, or because JR wanted a reason to rally the people behind his interest in war,,,,, can probably never be proven,,,so I have long since moved on to things that CAN be dealt with |
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) Your prize: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 |
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) Your prize: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0   |
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Stay in your life rafts people.
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please keep it on topic and not on posters. If you don't like the topic, please bypass it
Kim |
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The current results just in.
Was 911 an inside job? 75.6% say yes No 13.1% depends how you define inside. 9.8% None of the above. 1.5% |
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) 
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Edited by
alleoops
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Mon 10/22/12 04:35 PM
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The current results just in. Was 911 an inside job? 75.6% say yes No 13.1% depends how you define inside. 9.8% None of the above. 1.5% Now can we stop talking about it now? 
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) Definitely the funniest!
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With American Idol, Dancing with the Stars or some sporting event on TV, who has time to care? Seriously though? This is part of the problem. Unfortunately most people are so mind numbed and dumbed down and still asleep. If you look at what this country has become since that day, the answer has to be it was an inside job. TSA looks for Al Queda in an American Citizen's pants and that TSA screener isn't hauled away to jail for sexual molestation charges? Backscatter x ray machines will cause cancer but the sheeple blindly obey. Executive orders have been signed preparing for martial law and a FEMA takeover, but yet did you see Survivor last night? NDAA 2012 allows for the indefinite detention of an American citizen all without due process...until the end of hostilities? What country is this? The UN Gun Ban Treaty will ban private ownership of firearms in case you didn't know. Governments throughout history have used false flags to further an agenda and rally the sheeple around a common cause they would never support otherwise. Gulf of Tonkin, the Reighstag Fire, Operation Northwoods, Nero and the Great Fire of Rome, Sinking of the Lusitania dragging us into WWI, President Johnson ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty, and Operation Gladio to name a few. If you haven't read the book or seen the movie, please do so. Think of the War on Terror when you read the two quotes below: “Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened.’” 1984 In accordance to the principles of Doublethink, it does not matter if the war (on Terror) is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. Orwell's 1984 (parenthesis addition mine) Definitely the funniest! It shows literacy and depth and courage to make such a post especially as a first post. I salute you brother. 
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