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Incorrect. It is true, that if Jeremiah done other then what he was ordained to do, it would then make God "wrong". But nevertheless, it still does not take away his free will. Free will is the ability to make choices. God just already knew what choice he would make before he took it. Again after again, the ONLY way for there to not be free will, would be God forcibly making him a prophet. Which he did not. Jeremiah willingly chose to take that route in accordance to God's will. Just because God says this or that is going to happen, does not mean he forcibly made it happen or even did anything to cause it to happen. He just knew it was going to happen before it did. nope,... you keep forgetting that Jeremiah wasn't formed and therefore couldn't make any choices ...which is why it's not choice but programming o.O Sure he was formed.. what are you talking about? God formed us all in our mother's womb. Where did that comment come from? And again, what are you talking about? |
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o.O Sure he was formed.. what are you talking about? God formed us all in our mother's womb. Where did that comment come from? And again, what are you talking about? Jeremiah 1:5 states that God knew Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb ...stay focus Cowboy therefore Jeremiah's destiny was pre-determine before Jeremiah had the opportunity to make any choices ... |
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o.O Sure he was formed.. what are you talking about? God formed us all in our mother's womb. Where did that comment come from? And again, what are you talking about? Jeremiah 1:5 states that God knew Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb ...stay focus Cowboy therefore Jeremiah's destiny was pre-determine before Jeremiah had the opportunity to make any choices ... God knows us all before we are formed in the womb. Stay focused Funches. Psalm 139:13-14 13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. 14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. |
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God knows us all before we are formed in the womb. that's when you received your programming.... |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Wed 10/24/12 09:42 PM
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God knows us all before we are formed in the womb. Psalm 139:13-14 13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. 14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well that's when you received your programming.... ???? What programming? And where do you get this information of "programming" other then your speculations. Where have you learned that we are "programmed" |
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???? What programming? And where do you get this information of "programming" other then your speculations. Where have you learned that we are "programmed" I got it from you...didn't you just claim that God knew you before you were formed? so what did he know about you? |
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???? What programming? And where do you get this information of "programming" other then your speculations. Where have you learned that we are "programmed" I got it from you...didn't you just claim that God knew you before you were formed? so what did he know about you? I said nothing of us being programmed. Why you lie and say you got it from me? What did he know of me before I was born eg., formed in the womb? He knows everything Funches, everything. |
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Edited by
funches
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Wed 10/24/12 10:35 PM
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I said nothing of us being programmed. Why you lie and say you got it from me? because you introduced the concept into the debate...what the hell (no pun intended) do you think we've been debating about for the last couple of pages What did he know of me before I was born eg., formed in the womb? He knows everything Funches, everything. which is why your destiny was pre-determined before you were born and it's nothing you can do to change it ...the same as that of a Robot as I've asked earlier....explain how you can use your "Free Will" to change your destiny without proving what your God knew about you before the womb to be wrong |
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Jesus Christ is my savior! Ever since Iaccepted him my life has been so much calmer. To many unexplained things have happened to me. However I don't push it on anyone.
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Thu 10/25/12 07:40 AM
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I said nothing of us being programmed. Why you lie and say you got it from me? because you introduced the concept into the debate...what the hell (no pun intended) do you think we've been debating about for the last couple of pages What did he know of me before I was born eg., formed in the womb? He knows everything Funches, everything. which is why your destiny was pre-determined before you were born and it's nothing you can do to change it ...the same as that of a Robot as I've asked earlier....explain how you can use your "Free Will" to change your destiny without proving what your God knew about you before the womb to be wrong He knows everything not because he forces it to happen, but because he know's it's going to happen. Heck, it may even be something God doesn't want to happen, just he know's it's going to happen. |
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He knows everything not because he forces it to happen, but because he know's it's going to happen. nothing can happen or take place unless God creates it to happen ...no one can live or die unless God creates that to happen whether you go to Heaven or Hell was pre-determine before you were formed in the womb it doesn't matter if you change your life and give it to Jesus or pray until the stars burn out, there is nothing that a believer can do that can change their destiny ...well maybe if they convert to Judaism |
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He knows everything not because he forces it to happen, but because he know's it's going to happen. nothing can happen or take place unless God creates it to happen ...no one can live or die unless God creates that to happen whether you go to Heaven or Hell was pre-determine before you were formed in the womb it doesn't matter if you change your life and give it to Jesus or pray until the stars burn out, there is nothing that a believer can do that can change their destiny ...well maybe if they convert to Judaism nothing can happen or take place unless God creates it to happen Incorrect. For instance, you do not come here denying the existence of God because he caused it to happen. God only creates the possibility of someone's actions, we call this "free will", that does not mean in fact he caused any specific thing to happen. Again, only allows it to have possibility to happen and allows it to happen if and when it happens. whether you go to Heaven or Hell was pre-determine before you were formed in the womb Please do give the source of your information here. Because if this was true, then why would he waste time and energy on our lives here on Earth. Why would we just not be created in Heaven. And besides all that, hell was not made for man. Man will not go to "hell". Not the torturous place people have made "hell" to be. You either receive eternal life or you will die eternally, this is known as the second death. it doesn't matter if you change your life and give it to Jesus or pray until the stars burn out, there is nothing that a believer can do that can change their destiny Destiny? Again, give us the source of your knowledge about this "destiny". Because again, it would make life pointless. |
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Destiny? Again, give us the source of your knowledge about this "destiny". Because again, it would make life pointless. life is pointless to God... but of course you're welcome to give a reason why God would "need" man for anything ... |
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Destiny? Again, give us the source of your knowledge about this "destiny". Because again, it would make life pointless. life is pointless to God... but of course you're welcome to give a reason why God would "need" man for anything ... Again, give the information of where you get that life is pointless to God. And no, God doesn't need man, what are you talking about? Man is but a creation of God, why would God need that which he created? He could very well always just blow us all up and start over if he wished. But thankfully we have a loving God. So again, what's your point? |
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Again, give the information of where you get that life is pointless to God. from you....look at what you posted below And no, God doesn't need man, what are you talking about? Man is but a creation of God, why would God need that which he created? He could very well always just blow us all up and start over if he wished. But thankfully we have a loving God. So again, what's your point? you just explained why life is pointless to God in your above post POSTED BY COWBOY God doesn't need Man Man is but a creation why would God need that which he created he could very well blow us up hence life is pointless to God....thanks Cowboy |
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Again, give the information of where you get that life is pointless to God. from you....look at what you posted below And no, God doesn't need man, what are you talking about? Man is but a creation of God, why would God need that which he created? He could very well always just blow us all up and start over if he wished. But thankfully we have a loving God. So again, what's your point? you just explained why life is pointless to God in your above post POSTED BY COWBOY God doesn't need Man Man is but a creation why would God need that which he created he could very well blow us up hence life is pointless to God....thanks Cowboy Wow Funches, extreme on the taking things out of context on this one. Just because God doesn't "need" man, doesn't mean we're not important and that our lives are pointless. Do you feel your life is pointless or something? |
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Do you feel your life is pointless or something? I don't give any creed to what characters that can't be proved to exist beyond a book feel |
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Wow Funches, extreme on the taking things out of context on this one. Just because God doesn't "need" man, doesn't mean we're not important and that our lives are pointless. well if you wish to prove that your life is not pointless to God then give a reason why God would need you for anything |
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Wow Funches, extreme on the taking things out of context on this one. Just because God doesn't "need" man, doesn't mean we're not important and that our lives are pointless. well if you wish to prove that your life is not pointless to God then give a reason why God would need you for anything Again, he doesn't "need" me or anyone or anything. What is your point? God made us, remember? So with that, there is already nothing we could offer God. God has everything. |
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I don't believe in god myself but who am I to tell someone that does believe that he isn't real. You can make anything real with the right belief.
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