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Topic: when I don't find any hope around.....
TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sun 08/05/07 08:47 PM
The LORD Is My Shepherd

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green [1] pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest [2] my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. [3]


LAMom's photo
Sun 08/05/07 08:55 PM
With all these treasure's the Lord has bestowed upon us,, Why is it sometimes I doubt my faith in him and my faith in myself,,,, I know he fills our plate with what he believes we can handle or deal with in life,, Why then do some seem to deal with more than others...

I am sorry (((TLW))))) I am once again doing alot of soul searching,,,, Hugs,,,

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Sun 08/05/07 09:28 PM
Let not your heart be troubled; ye believe in God, believe also in me.
In my Fathers' house are many mansioms; if it were not so, I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will com again, and recieve you unto myself; that where I am, there you may be also.

St John 14 1-3

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 08/05/07 10:03 PM
Whether or not a person can find any hope would depend on what they are hoping for wouldn't it?

scttrbrain's photo
Sun 08/05/07 11:02 PM

Why would Jesus give us His flesh to eat?

Jesus desires to be with us in intimate, personal, simple and humble ways (any Christian who reads the Bible, regardless of their denomination would have to agree with that).

What could possibly be simpler than bread and wine?

What could possibly be a greater example of God's humility, than to make Himself present, known and available through such means?

What could ever be a more personal exchange between God and man?

Now, bearing all of these questions in mind, re-read these verses from St. John's Gospel:

"I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.

The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, 'How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?'

Jesus said to them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.'" - John 6:51-57

Kat




scttrbrain's photo
Sun 08/05/07 11:04 PM
Jesus took bread, and when he had said the blessing he broke it and gave it to the disciples. 'Take it and eat,' he said, 'this is my body.' - Matthew 26:26

Kat


Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/06/07 12:17 AM
“Jesus took bread, and when he had said the blessing he broke it and gave it to the disciples. 'Take it and eat,' he said, 'this is my body.' - Matthew 26:26”

Sounds like something a pantheist would say.

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Mon 08/06/07 12:20 PM
TheLonelyWalker,

When reading this psalm, I feel like rejecting or embracing equally.

When I get stuck in the notion that this Shepherd is 'outside' of this 'self' that I relate to, I reject it.

But on the contrary, when I interpret it to be both 'lost and confused sheep' (hopeless ego), and 'shepherd (whole and enlightend) cohabiting in the same 'self', which I still relate to, I am totally inspired.

Yeah for the Shepherd psalm!!!

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/06/07 03:42 PM
“But on the contrary, when I interpret it to be both 'lost and confused sheep' (hopeless ego), and 'shepherd (whole and enlightend) cohabiting in the same 'self', which I still relate to, I am totally inspired.”

So true.

Another perspective is indeed another place in the same place it was before it changed.

I’m the same as I’ve always been.

Just different.

That’s all.

>>> insert the sound of one hand clapping <<<

Or go listen to my music which is even better!

http://www.csonline.net/designer/ideas/fantasy.htm

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Mon 08/06/07 03:43 PM
Although I am not a Chrisitan, I find comfort and wisdom in many parts of the bible- as I do in other sacred books- and for me the 23rd Psalm is one of the most comforting mantras I know.

Also, if anyone is unaware this psalm is also frequently sung at shabbat (jewish sabbath).

One thing is not clear to me: not wanting or being alone or frightened sound good, being comforted is nice and having goodness and mercy for the rest of ones life sounds great.

But what is getting your head anointed with oil about? What's the benefit of this?


Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/06/07 03:45 PM
“But what is getting your head anointed with oil about? What's the benefit of this?”

It makes it easier to extract your head from up your,...

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Mon 08/06/07 03:50 PM
HOW VULGAR ABRA!!!

... but how delightfully comforting to know that it WIll come out of there some!!!

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Mon 08/06/07 03:51 PM
Thanks to the blessed 'ointment' !!!

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/06/07 03:51 PM
"HOW VULGAR ABRA!!!"

Bucket???

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Mon 08/06/07 03:53 PM

'anoasis' wrote:

'... Also, if anyone is unaware this psalm is also frequently sung at shabbat (jewish sabbath).


Aren't we all ONE!!!

anoasis's photo
Mon 08/06/07 03:57 PM
Abra-

Are you suggesting *my* head was stuck there??!!?

That's pretty harsh...

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Mon 08/06/07 04:20 PM
How could 'an' 'oasis' been up there!!! So pure, so fresh and 'BREATHING' !!!

c'mon!!!

Abra is not that vulgar!!! Just a little maybe, and we're not even sure of that much!!!


oldsage's photo
Mon 08/06/07 04:24 PM
Everyone has their own views & should not be put down for them.

anoasis's photo
Mon 08/06/07 04:28 PM
OK I found an alternate translation:

In some hebrew versions "annointest" is replaced with "makest fat" as in "he makest fat my head"... actually sounds even worse than annointed with oil...


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Mon 08/06/07 04:46 PM
smokin --just readin'--don't mind me--

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