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Topic: Marriage Helps keeps Children from Growing up Poor
CeriseRose Joined Mon 08/02/10 Posts: 6220	Wed 09/26/12 07:45 PM
Culture Marriage reduces poverty Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com) Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty. That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married. Rector "If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level." Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty. "It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret." Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades." http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty

Totage Joined Sat 10/13/07 Posts: 24210	Wed 09/26/12 09:05 PM
I'm not buying it. It sounds like bias BS to me.

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32402	Wed 09/26/12 09:33 PM
Are these married couples they studied one or two income families?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/27/12 12:11 AM Edited by msharmony on Thu 09/27/12 12:29 AM
Culture Marriage reduces poverty Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com) Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty. That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married. Rector "If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level." Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty. "It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret." Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades." http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty it has always just made sense to me the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,, my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,, I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,,

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Thu 09/27/12 01:56 AM
Culture Marriage reduces poverty Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com) Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty. That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married. Rector "If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level." Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty. "It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret." Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades." http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty it has always just made sense to me the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,, my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,, I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,, but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution?

Foliel Joined Thu 01/10/08 Posts: 1189	Thu 09/27/12 03:28 AM
My mom raised her children mostly alone, we may not have been rich, but in no way were we poor. What we didn't have in money we had in family and love. Sure she had to save a bit more in order to do christmas, but we were always happy with whatever mom could afford. People put too much stock in how much money a family has, money does not equate happiness, Love, Honor, Respect...those are what create happiness. I cherish my childhood, even if it wasn't the absolute greatest, I wouldn't trade it for the world. As for what constitutes family: I believe that a family is not based on the traditional Mother and Father idea, parents can be mom and dad, 2 moms, or 2 dads. As long as you raise your children with love and respect, they will be ok.

Foliel Joined Thu 01/10/08 Posts: 1189	Thu 09/27/12 07:09 AM
and yet the friends I have with gay parents are well adjusted adults... people may not like it but oh well thats their problem, this thread is not about gay parents but about children growing up poor

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/27/12 07:15 AM
Culture Marriage reduces poverty Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com) Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty. That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married. Rector "If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level." Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty. "It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret." Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades." http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty it has always just made sense to me the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,, my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,, I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,, but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution? in our culture, yes

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/27/12 07:18 AM
My mom raised her children mostly alone, we may not have been rich, but in no way were we poor. What we didn't have in money we had in family and love. Sure she had to save a bit more in order to do christmas, but we were always happy with whatever mom could afford. People put too much stock in how much money a family has, money does not equate happiness, Love, Honor, Respect...those are what create happiness. I cherish my childhood, even if it wasn't the absolute greatest, I wouldn't trade it for the world. As for what constitutes family: I believe that a family is not based on the traditional Mother and Father idea, parents can be mom and dad, 2 moms, or 2 dads. As long as you raise your children with love and respect, they will be ok. I think it is a noble and sweet sounding cliche that all we need is love and respect, but I dont believe it to be realistic poverty sets children up for all types of downfalls in life, even when they are loved and respected and that love and respect can play a big part in helping them through , but it isnt an acceptable substitute for doing what we can to not set them up for those pitfalls in the first place,,,

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 09/27/12 07:38 AM
I would say it depends on the situation and parents. As we know, there are many out there who have straight parents who suffer as well.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/27/12 07:40 AM
I would say it depends on the situation and parents. As we know, there are many out there who have straight parents who suffer as well. this is true there is no SURE fire way to keep kids from suffering, but there are factors which greatly improve their odds

navygirl Joined Sat 06/02/07 Posts: 8118	Thu 09/27/12 09:05 AM Edited by navygirl on Thu 09/27/12 09:06 AM
hmm, my parents were married and we grew up very poor so marriage certainly did not put food on the table for us.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 09/27/12 10:16 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong. It takes a man and woman to have a child. A, man in man, cannot produce kids. They lack the box to store a fetus. A, woman on woman, cannot produce kids. They have the storeage box but, lack the ability to produce and squirt the sperm it takes to make a rug rat. Basic biology, no. I would imagine, the study would refer to healthy parents that livehealthy lives and make healthy decisions. They, more times than not, raise stable, rational children.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 09/27/12 10:32 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong. It takes a man and woman to have a child. A, man in man, cannot produce kids. They lack the box to store a fetus. A, woman on woman, cannot produce kids. They have the storeage box but, lack the ability to produce and squirt the sperm it takes to make a rug rat. Basic biology, no. I would imagine, the study would refer to healthy parents that livehealthy lives and make healthy decisions. They, more times than not, raise stable, rational children. A family where it's a man and woman who are married doesn't necessarily indicate a healthy family or life. Single, or gay parents wouldn't necessarily indicate an unhealthy family or life.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 09/27/12 10:46 AM
In the healthy scheme of making kids, a man an woman meet, get to know each other really well. After a while, they get married. They have the number of kids they can afford. They stay together and both participate in the raising. They may be poor but content. The healthy, natural parents will raise their kids to make wise decions, to not expect society owes them a living. Poverty is as much a state of mind as it is a lack of money.

Totage Joined Sat 10/13/07 Posts: 24210	Thu 09/27/12 11:03 AM
In the healthy scheme of making kids, a man an woman meet, get to know each other really well. After a while, they get married. They have the number of kids they can afford. They stay together and both participate in the raising. They may be poor but content. The healthy, natural parents will raise their kids to make wise decions, to not expect society owes them a living. Poverty is as much a state of mind as it is a lack of money. It would be nice if that's how it happened. Now it's more like f*** it (literally actually). If we can't afford it, the government will take care of us. If the government won't care for us, we will blame them for our irresponsible actions (we don't necessarily think those exact thoughts, after all it's not our fault we have sex just because it feels good and we want to play house just because it makes us happy for the moment.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/27/12 08:09 PM
there is no absolute for instance will everyone that suffers molestation as a child require counseling to get through it or grow up to seek validation through sex? no BUT the odds are MORE probable to turn out that way IF there was child molestation its most probably to get the BEST balance of self esteem, self identification, stability, financial and emotional support if the two people who CREATE A life together, raise that life together does that mean it ALWAYS ends up balanced? no,, but it increased the odds GREATLY....

DestinedDream Joined Sun 10/21/12 Posts: 4	Mon 10/22/12 08:10 PM Edited by DestinedDream on Mon 10/22/12 08:16 PM
This is just more ignorant propergander from a certain perspective. There is a real truth deep behind such wild over generalisations to be drawn here but the point is missed way too easily. Want to change things then it's about time adults grew up and took responsibility seriously and im not just talking about the way they treat children in a single or 2 person relationship which is only a small part of it. All the things in society which we let loose , the chaos around that is forced upon. you program a pc to print hello it prints hello. yes we are complex but still the relationships of cause and effect are at play here. unless you go as pure from the start the variables and consequences you will face you have all ready set in place. more rules giving punishment etc is neither the cure nor will it do any good. if wanting to seriously change things then promote good thinking, change how we live and what we teach and not just to the young, drop this commercial money driven world, promote free self exploration throughout our lives in community based centres whilst not raping the world, find our balance with it,, give ones own destiny to be controlled by oneself instead of forcing meaningless education in a dangerous environment on to our kids whilst on thier own and without us their. we should be able to share together and experiencing the new and wonderful with our education the basis for implementing our human goals and needs.. the future was yesterday when will people wake up and plan to do it today?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/22/12 11:04 PM
Culture Marriage reduces poverty Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com) Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty. That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married. Rector "If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level." Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty. "It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret." Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades." http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty it has always just made sense to me the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,, my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,, I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,, but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution? I think the odds of commitment increase when people have the commitment witnessed by family and community,,,,and mandated by the law

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Tue 10/23/12 01:21 AM
I watched Al Franken question some fool from Focus on the Family who try to misquote a report claiming a nuclear family was a man and a woman married, while the definition is actually one or more children with two parents who are either biological or adoptive, with no statement as to gender.