Topic: The end of America
HotRodDeluxe's photo
Fri 08/24/12 02:24 PM


All very interesting stuff, but it doesn't prove the American judiciary 'serves' the British Royal Family, does it?



The "Crown" is not the British royal family. It is a "non-corporate entity" (secret society) controled (owned) by bankers.

Essentially it is the Central Bankers themselves. (Or some believe they are the society of the Templars, called the Illuminati.)

When the banks fail, there will be a few people who will get out with their stolen wealth. They are the ones who have the gold and the real wealth.

He who has the gold rules the world.

Paper money, paper stocks, are only worth the paper they are written on.

It was about religion and the Pope. Now it boils down to who has the wealth, and that means real assets..... gold, silver, etc.



And the Wizard of Oz can be found at the end of the Yellow Brick Road, Dorothy.

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Fri 08/24/12 02:26 PM





As a Melmacian, I am accustomed to stuff that is from out of of this world.
Yet, I am amazed at what I have read on this thread.



I have to concur.

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Fri 08/24/12 02:42 PM
Then we are all amazed.

We probably need to get a life.

laugh

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Fri 08/24/12 04:57 PM

That is simply information. It can be found many places, not just on what you describe as some "nutter's blog."

What do you think people do, just make that stuff up? LOL what a waste of time that would be.

I just happened to find that particular page with a google search, but it is a little known fact that the legal system does serve a non-entity called "the crown." Most lawyers know this, but maybe they don't exactly understand it.

It can be proven without a doubt. I have placed a link to that proof here before, to a government site but I don't have it anymore.

I didn't plan to have to continue to educate everyone over and over. I don't really care if you have this information or not. You can remain ignorant if you want. I'm glad you found it funny.




Jeanniebean, I have to give you props.

I choose not to get too tangled up in the deeper politics and conspiracies.

I'm not wired for that.

My central concerns are for the moral state we are in as a Nation.

But I have to take this time to commend you.

You have done excellent research!

People who rely on television as their main source of information will always show a "programmed" effect.

They will refuse to believe you because they didn't see that on the news or even in the newspaper.

There's nothing to question on tv news... just a lot of finger-pointing at the little guys...the puppets. And all of that to keep everyone confused!

I have on many occasions, from many sources, over the years (prior to the internet information explosion),
come to this same information you are sharing.

I appreciate your diligence and your stamina.

I think it shows that you care for America.

It matters to you that people wake up and "smell the coffee"!

Truth is, many don't want to wake-up.

Thank you very much! flowerforyou

No one can say that you didn't try!


Dodo_David's photo
Fri 08/24/12 05:28 PM


That is simply information. It can be found many places, not just on what you describe as some "nutter's blog."

What do you think people do, just make that stuff up? LOL what a waste of time that would be.

I just happened to find that particular page with a google search, but it is a little known fact that the legal system does serve a non-entity called "the crown." Most lawyers know this, but maybe they don't exactly understand it.

It can be proven without a doubt. I have placed a link to that proof here before, to a government site but I don't have it anymore.

I didn't plan to have to continue to educate everyone over and over. I don't really care if you have this information or not. You can remain ignorant if you want. I'm glad you found it funny.




Jeanniebean, I have to give you props.

I choose not to get too tangled up in the deeper politics and conspiracies.

I'm not wired for that.

My central concerns are for the moral state we are in as a Nation.

But I have to take this time to commend you.

You have done excellent research!

People who rely on television as their main source of information will always show a "programmed" effect.

They will refuse to believe you because they didn't see that on the news or even in the newspaper.

There's nothing to question on tv news... just a lot of finger-pointing at the little guys...the puppets. And all of that to keep everyone confused!

I have on many occasions, from many sources, over the years (prior to the internet information explosion),
come to this same information you are sharing.

I appreciate your diligence and your stamina.

I think it shows that you care for America.

It matters to you that people wake up and "smell the coffee"!

Truth is, many don't want to wake-up.

Thank you very much! flowerforyou

No one can say that you didn't try!




huh Excellent research?

rofl

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Fri 08/24/12 06:38 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/24/12 06:45 PM


That is simply information. It can be found many places, not just on what you describe as some "nutter's blog."

What do you think people do, just make that stuff up? LOL what a waste of time that would be.

I just happened to find that particular page with a google search, but it is a little known fact that the legal system does serve a non-entity called "the crown." Most lawyers know this, but maybe they don't exactly understand it.

It can be proven without a doubt. I have placed a link to that proof here before, to a government site but I don't have it anymore.

I didn't plan to have to continue to educate everyone over and over. I don't really care if you have this information or not. You can remain ignorant if you want. I'm glad you found it funny.




Jeanniebean, I have to give you props.

I choose not to get too tangled up in the deeper politics and conspiracies.

I'm not wired for that.

My central concerns are for the moral state we are in as a Nation.

But I have to take this time to commend you.

You have done excellent research!

People who rely on television as their main source of information will always show a "programmed" effect.

They will refuse to believe you because they didn't see that on the news or even in the newspaper.

There's nothing to question on tv news... just a lot of finger-pointing at the little guys...the puppets. And all of that to keep everyone confused!

I have on many occasions, from many sources, over the years (prior to the internet information explosion),
come to this same information you are sharing.

I appreciate your diligence and your stamina.

I think it shows that you care for America.

It matters to you that people wake up and "smell the coffee"!

Truth is, many don't want to wake-up.

Thank you very much! flowerforyou

No one can say that you didn't try!



Thank you !flowerforyou


I do see a lot of people waking up, bit by bit, but it is a very slow process.

They say if you put a frog in cold water and warm it up very slowly, the frog will not notice the change in temperature until he has been cooked.

Frog legs anyone?

Our schools don't teach true history and they don't teach the truth either.

JP Morgan just donated billions of dollars to build a school (college) in Denver to teach the next generation about banking and high finance.

That is hilarious since all they want to do is crank out the next generation of wall street banking idiots who will participate in the goal to replace paper money completely with digital money (credits) and carry on the scheme to steal the real wealth (property, gold, silver etc.) and so they can control the entire global economic system.

As it stands, JP Morgan is so deep in debt from gambling with derivatives (Trillions and Trillions) that there are not enough forests in the world to make enough paper to print enough money to pay the debts. Digital money is the only answer for them.

And why will people agree to this you might ask... well, because they may have little choice. They might be offered a set amount of digital money (credits) in exchange for their paper money (which would be rendered useless).

Not a prediction, just a thought.

I am thinking digital money (numbers on a computer) is more convenient than all that paper. ... and there certainly is not enough gold or silver available to be of any use to remedy JP Morgan's trillions of dollars of debt.













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Fri 08/24/12 07:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/24/12 07:16 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh

JP Morgan.....

Silver report:


Silver has gone up from $27.00 to $30.00 14% in a week's time...

Here's why:

Realists news...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4SM8GqEaY&feature=em-uploademail



Get your silver delivery now, if you have paper silver... and don't put it in the bank. ... or even a safe deposit box.



HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sat 08/25/12 09:58 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 08/25/12 09:59 PM

huh Excellent research?

rofl


Apparently Googling crap is research. laugh

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Sat 08/25/12 10:11 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 08/25/12 10:14 PM
Everyone googles or searches the web in one way or another.

(Even lawyers, reporters etc.) It took the T.V. news anchors a while to catch on, but eventually they learned that twitter, youtube and facebook has up to date information. You can't listen to any news cast on televisions anymore without hearing something about twitter or youtube.

(They still have a lot to learn about deep web searching.)

The Internet is the biggest library on earth. Of course most old fogies can't wrap their heads around the significance of that.

Before the Internet, I spent most of my time in the public Library. I would check out 20 books at a time. When I moved here I discovered the local library had nothing in it. It was a pathetic small town Library. (If it were not for the Internet I would have gone bonkers.)

So, yes APPARENTLY GOGGLING CRAP IS RESEARCH. If you don't do it, then that would explain a lot.

So yes, I google and yes it is research.

Get over it.






HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sat 08/25/12 11:09 PM

Everyone googles or searches the web in one way or another.

(Even lawyers, reporters etc.) It took the T.V. news anchors a while to catch on, but eventually they learned that twitter, youtube and facebook has up to date information. You can't listen to any news cast on televisions anymore without hearing something about twitter or youtube.

(They still have a lot to learn about deep web searching.)

The Internet is the biggest library on earth. Of course most old fogies can't wrap their heads around the significance of that.

Before the Internet, I spent most of my time in the public Library. I would check out 20 books at a time. When I moved here I discovered the local library had nothing in it. It was a pathetic small town Library. (If it were not for the Internet I would have gone bonkers.)

So, yes APPARENTLY GOGGLING CRAP IS RESEARCH. If you don't do it, then that would explain a lot.

So yes, I google and yes it is research.

Get over it.



rofl

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Mon 08/27/12 09:28 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 08/27/12 09:28 PM
A Comprehensive List Of Obama’s Worst Executive Orders

http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-comprehensive-list-of-obamas-worst-executive-orders/


Editor’s correction: This is a list of executive orders in force that outline Emergency Powers. Some of these were signed by prior US Presidents going back all the way to JFK. Obama specifically has signed executive orders starting with the number EO-13489 and forward. But these all reference powers Obama could use to limit your freedoms. Here is a full list of Obama Executive Orders.)

There have been over 900 Executive orders put forth from Obama, and he is not even through his first term yet. He is creating a martial law ‘Disney Land’ of control covering everything imaginable. Some of the executive orders he has signed recently have been exposed thanks to ‘Friends of Conservative Action Alerts.’ They have compiled a choice list of ‘Emergency Powers, Martial law executive orders’: Get your headache medication out while you still can without a prescription.

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.



It is more than clear that Obama is planning for the total control and takeover of America via Martial Law. Food, energy, transportation, work, banking, and health…he has it covered.

While Obama is busy pulling executive orders out of the sky to control everything inside our country, he has been issuing executive orders to force us to submit to international regulations instead of our Constitution. Sher Zieve exposed this in one of her recent articles. Damn the U.S. Constitution, damn the American people and damn U.S. sovereignty.

We must send faxes, emails, and make calls to all congressman and demand they stop Obama’s perverted, extreme, and Unconstitutional abuse of Executive Orders. It is time to demand our elected leaders start protecting America, our sovereignty, and our Constitution. So far, they seem to be protecting the Obama – Marxist takeover plans…peppered with a little U.N. and Islam.

Read more of Laurie’s columns and listen to her on the radio at her website, http://therothshow.com/














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Mon 08/27/12 10:03 PM

Today, each corporate STATE in America has it's own BAR Association, i.e. The Florida Bar or the California Bar, that licenses government officer attorneys, NOT lawyers. In reality, the U.S. courts only allow their officer attorneys to freely enter within the bar while prohibiting those learned of the law - lawyers - to do so. They prevent advocates, lawyers, counselors, barristers and solicitors from entering through the outer bar. Only licensed BAR Attorneys are permitted to freely enter within the bar separating the people from the bench because all BAR Attorneys are officers of the court itself. Does that tell you anything?

Here's where the whole word game gets really tricky. In each State, every licensed BAR Attorney calls himself an Attorney at Law. Look at the definitions above and see for yourself that an Attorney at Law is nothing more than an attorney - one who transfers allegiance and property to the ruling land owner.

Another name game they use is "of counsel," which means absolutely nothing more than an offer of advice. Surely, the mechanic down the street can do that! Advice is one thing; lawful representation is another.

A BAR licensed Attorney is not an advocate, so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is? He can't plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can't represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant. His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to transfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to transfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court. A more appropriate phrase would be legal plunder.


Yea, and don't forget we still use Robert's Rules of Order too. devil

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Mon 08/27/12 10:12 PM




we can try to uproot everything because we dont like some of it

or we can hold on to those things that work and that make sense, and continue trying to improve on those things that are failing or harming others,,,,



Holding on to a system that is about to crash only means that we will crash with it.

Instead, we should begin building something that does work.






where is evidence that it is 'about to crash'? based upon what?


Simple common sense, and also looking back into history (which we are WOEFULLY ignorant of), we CANNOT keep sustaining things as they are we just can't. It WILL break at some point, it's happened before (see Great Depression) and it will happen again. Whether people wanna believe that or not really makes no difference, we will ALL be faced with the cold hard reality sooner or later. And if we're not prepared it will be that much harder to accept. Pride comes before the fall...


Well, as we have discovered, our breaking point is still less consequential than the rest of the world, who will continue to break with us and we will still have the worlds largest military complex.

I think dictatorship is the least of our worries - perhaps we need to be concerned about a World Corpora-oligarchy. At the rate the worlds major corperate entities are buying into the privatization of public resources we should all be concerned.

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Mon 08/27/12 10:16 PM
If "we" (as in Americans) don't have the dollar (wealth) to pay our Military, then we don't have the worlds largest military complex.

So who has them?

The ones with the money. The ones with the gold.

The Elite. The Rich. The ones who want to rule the world.

Oh.... but so many people don't believe they exist.


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Mon 08/27/12 10:17 PM
As in the past, rulers who could afford to pay the armies and offer them a career, and bonuses are the ones who ruled.

Without an army you can't rule. Without money, you can't pay an army.


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Mon 08/27/12 11:25 PM

A Comprehensive List Of Obama’s Worst Executive Orders

http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-comprehensive-list-of-obamas-worst-executive-orders/


Editor’s correction: This is a list of executive orders in force that outline Emergency Powers. Some of these were signed by prior US Presidents going back all the way to JFK. Obama specifically has signed executive orders starting with the number EO-13489 and forward. But these all reference powers Obama could use to limit your freedoms. Here is a full list of Obama Executive Orders.)

There have been over 900 Executive orders put forth from Obama, and he is not even through his first term yet. He is creating a martial law ‘Disney Land’ of control covering everything imaginable. Some of the executive orders he has signed recently have been exposed thanks to ‘Friends of Conservative Action Alerts.’ They have compiled a choice list of ‘Emergency Powers, Martial law executive orders’: Get your headache medication out while you still can without a prescription.

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.



Editor’s correction: This is a list of executive orders in force that outline Emergency Powers. Some of these were signed by prior US Presidents going back all the way to JFK. Obama specifically has signed executive orders starting with the number EO-13489 and forward. But these all reference powers Obama could use to limit your freedoms.


What does the quote directly above have to do with anything – those EOs were there for all the presidents since JFK and some of them have to do with FEMA – you know, like full scale disaster that requires a military complement to direct, protect, and secure the safety and property of a devastated population – you know?

There have been over 900 Executive orders put forth from Obama, and he is not even through his first term yet.


Let’s get a little closer to reality, more like 135 EOs total and their numbering begins with 13489, as properly stated in the first quote.

This link below has a complete list (easier to see than going to the federal registry, but that link is provided too).

http://1461days.blogspot.com/2009/01/current-list-of-president-obamas.html

OR

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2011.html

If you use the open web for your research, be sure not to stop when you find information that confirms a particular point of bias. All I did was google “executive order Obama” and I got some reputable sites and accurate information along with a lot of garbage.

When an error in the information being presented in support of a point of view, is this grievously mistaken, there is little credibility left for further discussion.

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Tue 08/28/12 07:18 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 08/28/12 07:19 AM

A Comprehensive List Of Obama’s Worst Executive Orders

http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-comprehensive-list-of-obamas-worst-executive-orders/


Editor’s correction: This is a list of executive orders in force that outline Emergency Powers. Some of these were signed by prior US Presidents going back all the way to JFK. Obama specifically has signed executive orders starting with the number EO-13489 and forward. But these all reference powers Obama could use to limit your freedoms. Here is a full list of Obama Executive Orders.)

There have been over 900 Executive orders put forth from Obama, and he is not even through his first term yet. He is creating a martial law ‘Disney Land’ of control covering everything imaginable. Some of the executive orders he has signed recently have been exposed thanks to ‘Friends of Conservative Action Alerts.’ They have compiled a choice list of ‘Emergency Powers, Martial law executive orders’: Get your headache medication out while you still can without a prescription.

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.



It is more than clear that Obama is planning for the total control and takeover of America via Martial Law. Food, energy, transportation, work, banking, and health…he has it covered.

While Obama is busy pulling executive orders out of the sky to control everything inside our country, he has been issuing executive orders to force us to submit to international regulations instead of our Constitution. Sher Zieve exposed this in one of her recent articles. Damn the U.S. Constitution, damn the American people and damn U.S. sovereignty.

We must send faxes, emails, and make calls to all congressman and demand they stop Obama’s perverted, extreme, and Unconstitutional abuse of Executive Orders. It is time to demand our elected leaders start protecting America, our sovereignty, and our Constitution. So far, they seem to be protecting the Obama – Marxist takeover plans…peppered with a little U.N. and Islam.

Read more of Laurie’s columns and listen to her on the radio at her website, http://therothshow.com/














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edit: I missed Reds correction,,,,thanx Red

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Tue 08/28/12 08:12 AM
Every one, please refrain from using ad-hominems.:smile:

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Tue 08/28/12 09:43 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/28/12 09:45 AM
What does the quote directly above have to do with anything – those EOs were there for all the presidents since JFK and some of them have to do with FEMA – you know, like full scale disaster that requires a military complement to direct, protect, and secure the safety and property of a devastated population – you know?


It has to do with the end of America which is the title of this thread.
It's not all about Obama.

We can't blame it on one person.

America today is a different country. It has changed. I don't recognize it.


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Tue 08/28/12 09:49 AM

What does the quote directly above have to do with anything – those EOs were there for all the presidents since JFK and some of them have to do with FEMA – you know, like full scale disaster that requires a military complement to direct, protect, and secure the safety and property of a devastated population – you know?


It has to do with the end of America which is the title of this thread.
It's not all about Obama.

We can't blame it on one person.

America today is a different country. It has changed. I don't recognize it.




yes, much larger, much more populated, much more diverse, no slavery, no powerless voiceless women


I dont recognize it either, other than recognizing that it inevitably changes with time,,,,