Topic: The end of America
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Thu 08/23/12 07:21 PM

Right Uniform ..... it may as well be "universal" because it originated from London. (Britain)



No, it did not originate from London.

It originated in the USA and pertains solely to the USA.

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Thu 08/23/12 07:58 PM


Right Uniform ..... it may as well be "universal" because it originated from London. (Britain)



No, it did not originate from London.

It originated in the USA and pertains solely to the USA.



laugh laugh laugh if you say so.....

and that is what they want you to believe.....:wink:


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Thu 08/23/12 08:01 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/23/12 08:01 PM
Although they vehemently deny it, all Bar Associations in the U.S. , such as the American Bar Association, the Florida Bar, or California Bar Association, are franchises to the Crown. The Inns of Court (see below, The Four Inns of Court) to the Crown Temple use the Banking and Judicial system of the City of London - a sovereign and independent territory which is not a part of Great Britain (just as Washington City, as DC was called in the 1800's, is not a part of the north American states, nor is it a state) to defraud, coerce, and manipulate the American people. These Fleet Street bankers and lawyers are committing crimes in America under the guise and color of law (see definitions for legal and lawful below).


They are known collectively as the "Crown." Their lawyers are actually Templar Bar Attornies, not lawyers. The present Queen of England is not the "Crown," as we have all been led to believe. Rather, it is the Bankers and Attornies (Attorneys) who are the actual Crown orCrown Temple. The Monarch aristocrats of England have not been ruling sovereigns since the reign of King John, circa 1215. All royal sovereignty of the old British Crown since that time has passed to the Crown Temple in Chancery.

http://theftbydeception.blogspot.com/2010/02/bar-association-history-who-owns-us.html

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Thu 08/23/12 08:05 PM
By what authority has the "Crown" usurped the natural sovereignty of the American people? Is it acceptable that the U.S. Supreme Court decides constitutional issues in the U.S.A? How can it be considered in any manner as being "constitutional" when this same Supreme Court is appointed by (not elected) and paid by the Federal U.S. Government? Is it any wonder the states and her people have no justice as they dwellupon the land? As you will soon see, the land called North America belongs to the Crown Temple. The legal system (judiciary) of the U.S.A. is controlled by the Crown Temple from the independent and sovereign City of London.


The private Federal Reserve System, which issues fiat U.S. Federal Reserve Notes, is financially owned and controlled by the Crown from Switzerland, the home and legal origin for the charters of the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization, and most importantly, the Bank of International Settlements. Even Hitler respected his Crown bankers by not bombing Switzerland. The Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland controls all the central banks of the G7 nations. He who controls the gold rules the world.

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Thu 08/23/12 09:51 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 08/23/12 09:54 PM
rofl

This is hilarious!!!

http://theftbydeception.blogspot.com/2010/02/bar-association-history-who-owns-us.html

Why would anyone consider some nutter's blog to be evidence? laugh

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Thu 08/23/12 10:41 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/23/12 10:43 PM
That is simply information. It can be found many places, not just on what you describe as some "nutter's blog."

What do you think people do, just make that stuff up? LOL what a waste of time that would be.

I just happened to find that particular page with a google search, but it is a little known fact that the legal system does serve a non-entity called "the crown." Most lawyers know this, but maybe they don't exactly understand it.

It can be proven without a doubt. I have placed a link to that proof here before, to a government site but I don't have it anymore.

I didn't plan to have to continue to educate everyone over and over. I don't really care if you have this information or not. You can remain ignorant if you want. I'm glad you found it funny.


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Thu 08/23/12 10:46 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 08/23/12 10:52 PM

That is simply information. It can be found many places, not just on what you describe as some "nutter's blog."


So, why not use a credible source instead of some nutter's blog?

What do you think people do, just make that stuff up? LOL what a waste of time that would be.


No, nothing so infantile. I think a lot of people lack the ability to assess information with any degree of accuracy. They interpret evidence based on their limited experience, anecdotal evidence, the limitations of their education, and personal prejudices.

I just happened to find that particular page with a google search, but it is a little known fact that the legal system does serve a non-entity called "the crown." Most lawyers know this, but maybe they don't exactly understand it.


They don't actually 'serve' the crown in your country. That is an unfounded extrapolation.

It can be proven without a doubt. I have placed a link to that proof here before, to a government site but I don't have it anymore.


Without a doubt? This will be interesting.

I didn't plan to have to continue to educate everyone over and over.


That's ok, you shouldn't confuse your aspirations with your abilities.

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Thu 08/23/12 11:03 PM
During the middle 1600's, the Crown of England established a formal registry in London where barristers were ordered by the Crown to be accredited. The establishment of this first International Bar Association allowed barrister-lawyers from all nations to be formally recognized and accredited by the only recognized accreditation society. From this, the acronym BAR was established denoting (informally) the British Accredited Registry, whose members became a powerful and integral force within the International Bar Association (IBA). Although this has been denied repeatedly as to its existence, the acronym BAR stood for the British barrister-lawyers who were members of the larger IBA.

When America was still a chartered group of British colonies under patent - established in what was formally named the British Crown territory of New England - the first British Accredited Registry (BAR) was established in Boston during 1761 to attempt to allow only accredited barrister-lawyers access to the British courts of New England. This was the first attempt to control who could represent defendants in the court at or within the bar in America.

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Thu 08/23/12 11:05 PM
Today, each corporate STATE in America has it's own BAR Association, i.e. The Florida Bar or the California Bar, that licenses government officer attorneys, NOT lawyers. In reality, the U.S. courts only allow their officer attorneys to freely enter within the bar while prohibiting those learned of the law - lawyers - to do so. They prevent advocates, lawyers, counselors, barristers and solicitors from entering through the outer bar. Only licensed BAR Attorneys are permitted to freely enter within the bar separating the people from the bench because all BAR Attorneys are officers of the court itself. Does that tell you anything?

Here's where the whole word game gets really tricky. In each State, every licensed BAR Attorney calls himself an Attorney at Law. Look at the definitions above and see for yourself that an Attorney at Law is nothing more than an attorney - one who transfers allegiance and property to the ruling land owner.

Another name game they use is "of counsel," which means absolutely nothing more than an offer of advice. Surely, the mechanic down the street can do that! Advice is one thing; lawful representation is another.

A BAR licensed Attorney is not an advocate, so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is? He can't plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can't represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant. His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to transfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to transfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court. A more appropriate phrase would be legal plunder.

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Thu 08/23/12 11:08 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 08/23/12 11:09 PM
All very interesting stuff, but it doesn't prove the American judiciary 'serves' the British Royal Family, does it?

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Thu 08/23/12 11:27 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 08/23/12 11:29 PM


we can try to uproot everything because we dont like some of it

or we can hold on to those things that work and that make sense, and continue trying to improve on those things that are failing or harming others,,,,



Holding on to a system that is about to crash only means that we will crash with it.

Instead, we should begin building something that does work.






where is evidence that it is 'about to crash'? based upon what?


and who is this new system going to work for?

it cant possibly meet the needs and wants of hundreds of millions of people, regardless of who builds it or why....

the human process of trial and error and learning and growth will continue in ANYTHING that involves humans

whether we want to label them politicans or 'ignorant' citizens,,,,

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Fri 08/24/12 12:55 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Fri 08/24/12 12:55 AM



we can try to uproot everything because we dont like some of it

or we can hold on to those things that work and that make sense, and continue trying to improve on those things that are failing or harming others,,,,



Holding on to a system that is about to crash only means that we will crash with it.

Instead, we should begin building something that does work.






where is evidence that it is 'about to crash'? based upon what?


Simple common sense, and also looking back into history (which we are WOEFULLY ignorant of), we CANNOT keep sustaining things as they are we just can't. It WILL break at some point, it's happened before (see Great Depression) and it will happen again. Whether people wanna believe that or not really makes no difference, we will ALL be faced with the cold hard reality sooner or later. And if we're not prepared it will be that much harder to accept. Pride comes before the fall...

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Fri 08/24/12 07:39 AM
please explain some of the factors leading to the depression that we are currently seeing......



and how a depression is 'the end', when obviously even after the last one we kept going,,,,,?

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Fri 08/24/12 07:43 AM
please explain some of the factors leading to the depression that we are currently seeing......



and how a depression is 'the end', when obviously even after the last one we kept going,,,,,?

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Fri 08/24/12 07:43 AM
These are days when many are discouraged. In the 93 years of my life, depressions have come and gone. Prosperity has always returned and will again." By attempting to immediately recover without swallowing the bitter pill of two hard years, Hoover and Roosevelt may have actually prolonged the pain.


JD Rockefeller

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/cause-of-great-depression.asp#ixzz24TVVr3y4

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Fri 08/24/12 10:29 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/24/12 10:49 AM

All very interesting stuff, but it doesn't prove the American judiciary 'serves' the British Royal Family, does it?



The "Crown" is not the British royal family. It is a "non-corporate entity" (secret society) controled (owned) by bankers.

Essentially it is the Central Bankers themselves. (Or some believe they are the society of the Templars, called the Illuminati.)

When the banks fail, there will be a few people who will get out with their stolen wealth. They are the ones who have the gold and the real wealth.

He who has the gold rules the world.

Paper money, paper stocks, are only worth the paper they are written on.

It was about religion and the Pope. Now it boils down to who has the wealth, and that means real assets..... gold, silver, etc.

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Fri 08/24/12 10:38 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/24/12 10:45 AM

These are days when many are discouraged. In the 93 years of my life, depressions have come and gone. Prosperity has always returned and will again." By attempting to immediately recover without swallowing the bitter pill of two hard years, Hoover and Roosevelt may have actually prolonged the pain.


JD Rockefeller

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/cause-of-great-depression.asp#ixzz24TVVr3y4



Depressions should never happen.

If you want to find out what causes them, google Derivities and gambling. JP Morgan is in big financial trouble... I mean, his bank is, trillions of dollars worth. There is not enough money in the world even printed to pull these banks out of debt. Does he have any gold left? Does the federal reserve have any gold left that is not borrowed or leased?

He who has the gold will rule the world.

They are manipulating the prices of everything including gold and silver via their "client" the U.S. government. WE are having to pay their gambling debts when we pay for government bail outs.

article:

JPMorgan’s Addiction to Gambling on Derivatives

It is gambling on credit. The stock market and derivatives are gambling. They are trillions of dollars in debt.

JPMorgan’s flacks and apologists have, unintentionally, exposed the fact that their cover story – hedging gone bad – is false. JPMorgan runs the world’s largest gambling operation in financial derivatives. The New York Times reported the key facts, but not the analytics, in an article entitled “Discord at Key JPMorgan Unit is Faulted in Loss.” The analytics suggest that the latest JPMorgan cover story – it was JPMorgan’s “Achilles the heel” (based in the UK) who caused the loss – is misleading.

The personal story of Achilles acting like a heel makes compelling journalism, but it obscures rather than clarifies the analysis as to why JPMorgan poses a clear and present danger to the global economy.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/05/jpmorgans-addiction-to-gambling-on-derivatives/

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Fri 08/24/12 12:59 PM




As a Melmacian, I am accustomed to stuff that is from out of of this world.
Yet, I am amazed at what I have read on this thread.

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Fri 08/24/12 01:13 PM
Me too. Even more amazed that it is all true.

Basically...



Do you have any gold or silver on hand?

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Fri 08/24/12 01:15 PM



That's a very flattering picture of you Dodo-david.