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Topic: Terms of endearment...
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Tue 08/21/12 01:37 PM
Edited by josie68 on Tue 08/21/12 01:45 PM




navygirl...Great that you receive so much respect. (On and off duty.)...My husband was Asst. Fire Chief when the very first female firefighter entered his crew... Most of the male firefighters handled it well but a couple of guys had to be "set straight" a few times...Does the navy teach classes about "male and female relations" and sexual harrassment etc.?


Actually; yes the Navy gives courses on being politically correct and what is considered sexual harassment. Fortunately; the men I served with were smart enough to know how to treat me with respect before these classes were ever introduced. Fact is I was there boss at times so calling me sweetie and honey wouldn't have been acceptable.
It's great that you're surrounded by respectful men...The classes must seem strange to men who have been used to calling women "honey" and "sweetie" and other terms all of their lives. (Where it's embedded in their culture.)..It's not easy to do a complete "flip-flop" late in life! Do some men "slip-back" into their former ways at times?...It can be a "comedy of errors" when men and women from different cultures "meet-up" and try to relate to each other. Don't you think?


Well; overall its not in our culture to address women with honey or sweetie, so I would say no these guys would not slip back to that. We are taught to address people by their names or titles and not in a familiar way. I don't know many Canadians that would call a complete stranger honey or sweetie and for sure they would not address their boss that way. I do agree it can be interesting when different cultures meet up and try to relate.


It is funny, when the American Army or Navy arrives here as when they open a door or anything they use the word mamwhat it always makes us laugh as it sounds like they think we are an old woman. Yes Mam, it is just so strange for us. We like it though as they always seem so polite and helpful.

I manage a motel and am in charge, and everyone still calls me love honey gorgeous sweety, darlin, my love or a pain in the butt. But definately not by ,my name, even the people I employ.:smile:

josie68's photo
Tue 08/21/12 01:38 PM

As a kid I knew I was in "trouble" if my parents (or other relatives) called me by my "full" name. (My first and middle name together.) How about you?


Yep if she'd chuck my middle name in I was really gonna cop it.

josie68's photo
Tue 08/21/12 01:43 PM
Edited by josie68 on Tue 08/21/12 01:49 PM
One name that almost got my hubby in trouble was calling me SHE what
I would be standing right next to him and he would say, she did this or she did something elsenoway like I wasnt standing right next to him.
Now here it is sort of insulting for someone to use she on you when you are there, it's like they cant be bothered, using your name, or whatever name you are called by.
My Mum almost throtled him when he used she to talk about something she did at the table. If the evil eye could kill, he would be deadnoway

Example, "She would like a drink" BAD
"Josie would like a drink"" Good :wink:

simple but that is a little offensive here.

From the time you are little you are told, "She's a cats mother" Not sure why it's a cats mother what but it's definately bad to use it on someone when you are talking about them when there there,

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Tue 08/21/12 01:48 PM





navygirl...Great that you receive so much respect. (On and off duty.)...My husband was Asst. Fire Chief when the very first female firefighter entered his crew... Most of the male firefighters handled it well but a couple of guys had to be "set straight" a few times...Does the navy teach classes about "male and female relations" and sexual harrassment etc.?


Actually; yes the Navy gives courses on being politically correct and what is considered sexual harassment. Fortunately; the men I served with were smart enough to know how to treat me with respect before these classes were ever introduced. Fact is I was there boss at times so calling me sweetie and honey wouldn't have been acceptable.
It's great that you're surrounded by respectful men...The classes must seem strange to men who have been used to calling women "honey" and "sweetie" and other terms all of their lives. (Where it's embedded in their culture.)..It's not easy to do a complete "flip-flop" late in life! Do some men "slip-back" into their former ways at times?...It can be a "comedy of errors" when men and women from different cultures "meet-up" and try to relate to each other. Don't you think?


Well; overall its not in our culture to address women with honey or sweetie, so I would say no these guys would not slip back to that. We are taught to address people by their names or titles and not in a familiar way. I don't know many Canadians that would call a complete stranger honey or sweetie and for sure they would not address their boss that way. I do agree it can be interesting when different cultures meet up and try to relate.


It is funny, when the American Army or Navy arrives here as when they open a door or anything they use the word mamwhat it always makes us laugh as it sounds like they think we are an old woman. Yes Mam, it is just so strange for us. We like it though as they always seem so polite and helpful.

I manage a motel and am in charge, and everyone still calls me love honey gorgeous sweety, darlin, my love or a pain in the butt. But definately not by ,my name, even the people I employ.:smile:


I always think ma'am sounds strange when someone's talking to me, too, because it does seem like a term for an older woman. laugh

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Tue 08/21/12 01:54 PM
Edited by navygirl on Tue 08/21/12 01:58 PM





navygirl...Great that you receive so much respect. (On and off duty.)...My husband was Asst. Fire Chief when the very first female firefighter entered his crew... Most of the male firefighters handled it well but a couple of guys had to be "set straight" a few times...Does the navy teach classes about "male and female relations" and sexual harrassment etc.?


Actually; yes the Navy gives courses on being politically correct and what is considered sexual harassment. Fortunately; the men I served with were smart enough to know how to treat me with respect before these classes were ever introduced. Fact is I was there boss at times so calling me sweetie and honey wouldn't have been acceptable.
It's great that you're surrounded by respectful men...The classes must seem strange to men who have been used to calling women "honey" and "sweetie" and other terms all of their lives. (Where it's embedded in their culture.)..It's not easy to do a complete "flip-flop" late in life! Do some men "slip-back" into their former ways at times?...It can be a "comedy of errors" when men and women from different cultures "meet-up" and try to relate to each other. Don't you think?


Well; overall its not in our culture to address women with honey or sweetie, so I would say no these guys would not slip back to that. We are taught to address people by their names or titles and not in a familiar way. I don't know many Canadians that would call a complete stranger honey or sweetie and for sure they would not address their boss that way. I do agree it can be interesting when different cultures meet up and try to relate.


It is funny, when the American Army or Navy arrives here as when they open a door or anything they use the word mamwhat it always makes us laugh as it sounds like they think we are an old woman. Yes Mam, it is just so strange for us. We like it though as they always seem so polite and helpful.

I manage a motel and am in charge, and everyone still calls me love honey gorgeous sweety, darlin, my love or a pain in the butt. But definately not by ,my name, even the people I employ.:smile:


The military is taught to always address women as Mam and men as Sir regardless of age as it is a sign of respect. These are also considered general terms rather than a personal one like sweetie or honey.

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Tue 08/21/12 01:58 PM
Edited by josie68 on Tue 08/21/12 01:59 PM






navygirl...Great that you receive so much respect. (On and off duty.)...My husband was Asst. Fire Chief when the very first female firefighter entered his crew... Most of the male firefighters handled it well but a couple of guys had to be "set straight" a few times...Does the navy teach classes about "male and female relations" and sexual harrassment etc.?


Actually; yes the Navy gives courses on being politically correct and what is considered sexual harassment. Fortunately; the men I served with were smart enough to know how to treat me with respect before these classes were ever introduced. Fact is I was there boss at times so calling me sweetie and honey wouldn't have been acceptable.
It's great that you're surrounded by respectful men...The classes must seem strange to men who have been used to calling women "honey" and "sweetie" and other terms all of their lives. (Where it's embedded in their culture.)..It's not easy to do a complete "flip-flop" late in life! Do some men "slip-back" into their former ways at times?...It can be a "comedy of errors" when men and women from different cultures "meet-up" and try to relate to each other. Don't you think?


Well; overall its not in our culture to address women with honey or sweetie, so I would say no these guys would not slip back to that. We are taught to address people by their names or titles and not in a familiar way. I don't know many Canadians that would call a complete stranger honey or sweetie and for sure they would not address their boss that way. I do agree it can be interesting when different cultures meet up and try to relate.


It is funny, when the American Army or Navy arrives here as when they open a door or anything they use the word mamwhat it always makes us laugh as it sounds like they think we are an old woman. Yes Mam, it is just so strange for us. We like it though as they always seem so polite and helpful.

I manage a motel and am in charge, and everyone still calls me love honey gorgeous sweety, darlin, my love or a pain in the butt. But definately not by ,my name, even the people I employ.:smile:


The military is taught to always address women as Mam and men as Sir regardless of age as it is a sign of respect.


I know, we have a huge amount come through here, and my daughter likes to follow them in the supermarket to listen to their accent and try and get them to call her mam. noway Obviously there is not a lot of entertainment here:wink:

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Tue 08/21/12 02:13 PM



It's very true what Josie says..

The Aussies like to take a name and jazza it up a bit so that if you go by the name of Darren, you'll soon know you're in the presence of Aussieism when you hear Dazza...or if your name is Barry..it becomes Bazza. Sharon becomes Shazza, Warren becomes Wazza, and so on and so forth. IF, though you happen to be a redhead...then it's just Bluey. Where that came from i have no idea, but ya just go with it.

The term "mate" is used as frequently as one blinks...even when they're pissed off with you. Ha!..you know it's not going to end well when an Aussie says Maaaate. :-)


I would fit in good there haha. We all have nicknames in our circle... Slut, funky bunch, minachs, crystaloca....whatever your name is you can lose that when you walk through the doors hahaha:banana:


haha...with a name like slut, you'd fit in anywhere hahaha


Oh that's not my nickname, it's my gf, but we all have one....we never use our real names, laugh

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Tue 08/21/12 02:44 PM
Edited by GreenEyes48 on Tue 08/21/12 03:27 PM

One name that almost got my hubby in trouble was calling me SHE what
I would be standing right next to him and he would say, she did this or she did something elsenoway like I wasnt standing right next to him.
Now here it is sort of insulting for someone to use she on you when you are there, it's like they cant be bothered, using your name, or whatever name you are called by.
My Mum almost throtled him when he used she to talk about something she did at the table. If the evil eye could kill, he would be deadnoway

Example, "She would like a drink" BAD
"Josie would like a drink"" Good :wink:

simple but that is a little offensive here.

From the time you are little you are told, "She's a cats mother" Not sure why it's a cats mother what but it's definately bad to use it on someone when you are talking about them when there there,
I wouldn't like the "she stuff" either!...I've been around a few "she" men but not too many. (Oops! I don't mean "she men!" I'm talking about men who have referred to me or other women as "she's" on a regular basis!) Make sense??

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Tue 08/21/12 03:11 PM
I never hear the term "ma'am" used where I live. (Well maybe once in awhile by a stranger who ventures into town.)...Of course I live in the west. And this is suppose to be the land of "eternal youth!"...So it would probably be in bad taste to use a term (or name) that might make some people feel old!

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Tue 08/21/12 04:06 PM
I think Yellow Rose said it earlier and I gotta agree....Terms of endearment are simply a part of the vocabulary. They don't actually mean anything personal unless we actually like you. It is no different than saying "Ma'am", "Sir", "Mr." or "Mrs."

Just cause we say "Sugar"....don't mean you are sweet.
Just cause we say "Honey"....don't mean you are sweet.

We are just giving everyone else the benefit of the doubt.

It's up to ya'll to prove us wrong by being a b*tch.

:)

(Just trying to translate "southern" for all you foreign Cats and Dolls....yer welcome)

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Tue 08/21/12 06:28 PM

I think Yellow Rose said it earlier and I gotta agree....Terms of endearment are simply a part of the vocabulary. They don't actually mean anything personal unless we actually like you. It is no different than saying "Ma'am", "Sir", "Mr." or "Mrs."

Just cause we say "Sugar"....don't mean you are sweet.
Just cause we say "Honey"....don't mean you are sweet.

We are just giving everyone else the benefit of the doubt.

It's up to ya'll to prove us wrong by being a b*tch.

:)

(Just trying to translate "southern" for all you foreign Cats and Dolls....yer welcome)
This thread has really opened my eyes and taught me a lot about other cultures. And in the process I even tried to understand my own culture a little better. So it's all been "good!"...I live in an area (out west) where I rarely ever hear terms of endearment out in public. It's just not the norm here at all...Men don't use affectionate terms with women unless they are "going together" or married or close friends....I've lived in this same basic area all my life and been part of this culture...I don't think one culture is better or above other cultures. We just get used to certain behavior and customs based on where we grew-up and where we spend most of our time. Don't you think?....Anyway If I do run into a man who calls me a "sweet name" (which is rare out here) I'm going to say "thank you" and remember all I've learned from the people and posts on this thread! (Thanks to everyone!)

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Tue 08/21/12 11:37 PM


I think Yellow Rose said it earlier and I gotta agree....Terms of endearment are simply a part of the vocabulary. They don't actually mean anything personal unless we actually like you. It is no different than saying "Ma'am", "Sir", "Mr." or "Mrs."

Just cause we say "Sugar"....don't mean you are sweet.
Just cause we say "Honey"....don't mean you are sweet.

We are just giving everyone else the benefit of the doubt.

It's up to ya'll to prove us wrong by being a b*tch.

:)

(Just trying to translate "southern" for all you foreign Cats and Dolls....yer welcome)
This thread has really opened my eyes and taught me a lot about other cultures. And in the process I even tried to understand my own culture a little better. So it's all been "good!"...I live in an area (out west) where I rarely ever hear terms of endearment out in public. It's just not the norm here at all...Men don't use affectionate terms with women unless they are "going together" or married or close friends....I've lived in this same basic area all my life and been part of this culture...I don't think one culture is better or above other cultures. We just get used to certain behavior and customs based on where we grew-up and where we spend most of our time. Don't you think?....Anyway If I do run into a man who calls me a "sweet name" (which is rare out here) I'm going to say "thank you" and remember all I've learned from the people and posts on this thread! (Thanks to everyone!)


No No No don't thank him, it's just normal, so just keep chatting

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Wed 08/22/12 07:15 AM
Josie...Thanks to you too! It's all been interesting!..A lot of couples run into problems because they don't take the time to understand each other's culture. (And "ways" and "norms" and expectations etc.)...People can grow-up as next door neighbors and still have some "differences."...Anyway it sounds like you have a great sense of humor! This helps! Don't you think?...I try to stay away from people who "freak-out" over every little thing. "Differences" are bound to come up...Everything doesn't have to be "do or die" or "life and death!"

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Wed 08/22/12 07:18 AM
I have always dated older men. The one that gets me is when a boyfriend calls me "Kiddo". I am used to it because most people could not guess my age until recently but when someone you are sleeping with calls you "Kiddo", it's a little creepy.

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Wed 08/22/12 07:22 AM
Not sure what the big deal is really.


I just love a southern gal calling me suga or hun. I don't take it as her trying to get to the johnny sausage. It's just a warm greeting that makes people/me feel comfortable and welcomed. I dig it! :thumbsup:

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Wed 08/22/12 10:49 AM
well, where am from we mostly use names like mummy for your woman and daddy for your man.. You hear names like, my tom tom, my pumpkin, my choco milo, my tomato joss, eggovin yoyo, etc. Lol..

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Wed 08/22/12 10:52 AM

I think Yellow Rose said it earlier and I gotta agree....Terms of endearment are simply a part of the vocabulary. They don't actually mean anything personal unless we actually like you. It is no different than saying "Ma'am", "Sir", "Mr." or "Mrs."

Just cause we say "Sugar"....don't mean you are sweet.
Just cause we say "Honey"....don't mean you are sweet.

We are just giving everyone else the benefit of the doubt.

It's up to ya'll to prove us wrong by being a b*tch.

:)

(Just trying to translate "southern" for all you foreign Cats and Dolls....yer welcome)


Translate "Yankee" for me then, Krupa. Seemed to me it was not used in a friendly way. And no BS, because no Southerner who comes to the North is ever addressed as Southerner or Dixie or whatever.

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Wed 08/22/12 11:16 AM

I have always dated older men. The one that gets me is when a boyfriend calls me "Kiddo". I am used to it because most people could not guess my age until recently but when someone you are sleeping with calls you "Kiddo", it's a little creepy.
My Dad used to call me "Kiddo" once in awhile...Lately I've run into men my age (or just a little older) who remind me of my Dad at times. They have some of my Dad's ways...It would be hard for me to view them in a "romantic" kind of way...My husband was 6 years older than me but he didn't remind me of my Dad. (Thank goodness!)

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