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Topic: Israel to attack Iran before US election in November - media
Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 08/12/12 09:01 AM
*pardon my misspellings, cell phone keypad quite small, many pardons.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 08/12/12 09:10 AM
Iran has vowed to make Israel extinct. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel Iran lays out legal case for genocidal attack against 'cancerous tumor' The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people. The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide. Calling Israel a danger to Islam, ------------------------------------------------------------------ Muslims are a threat to civilized and intelligent people. Perhaps, they are the cancerous tumor?

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 08/12/12 09:18 AM
It is NOT a Jewish symbol, as the information on Wikipedia is wrong concerning this sacred geometric shape. Yeah yeah. The Star of David is not a Jewish symbol. And the cross is not a Christian symbol, the crescent is not an Islamic symbol and the Dharmacackra is not a Buddhist symbol. What does this have to do with stopping the Iran nuclear program? Nothing. It is brought up again only as a gratuitous and unwarranted attack on Jews here on mingle2. I was attacked for singing the praises of a Jewish Auschwitz Survivor and I am labelled an Anti-Semitic. I have not seen you attacked. It is your views advocating discredited antisemitic global domination conspiracy theories which were used as Nazi propaganda which are rightfully ridiculed here. I suspect the reason Meyer is praised is because he expressed sympathy for the tragic plight of the Palestinians. In fact it's abuse of the memory of those who were brutally slaughtered at Auschwitz and in the other Nazi death camps when you make a rude comparison between anti-terrorist bomb inspections (like those which now go on in every airport in the world - and at Israeli border crossings) with mass genocide. Of course there is no comparison with someone waiting in line for an hour and millions of people being killed - shot and buried many for example injured but still alive. It is this incredibly disgusting and insensitive and inappropriate comparison which is so easily lampooned. Clearly such attempts to minimize the very real suffering of millions of people while comparing mass exterminations with bag and parcel inspections are at their heart antisemitic and this is why people correctly point out how these remarks are in fact antisemitic. Israel has always had laws upholding the freedoms of all citizens. Israel has always tried to avoid conflict and respect others. Palestinians/Arabs have always had a policy of elimination of Jews. Pal/Arabs have repeatedly and intentionally taught Jew hatred to kids. Pal/Arabs use war crime terrorist tactics of intentionally trying to kill innocent women and children as a political/military strategy. Yet, in agreement with antisemites the legitimacy of Jews and Israel are repeatedly attacked and the brutality of the war crimes of the Palestinians and Arabs are ignored. So there you have it. An outrageous personal attack and should be taken off this thread. There is no place in my post where I make personal attacks. I don't do that. I merely am pointing out the inappropriate comparison of inspections to gas chambers and pointing out that the reason people may view some of these posts as antisemitic is that they repeat discredited Nazi propaganda and attempt to denigrate falsely Israel, Jews and Zionism. It is not personal at all and I am sorry you have taken it that way but it is very important to understand why people object to this line of reasoning.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sun 08/12/12 09:29 AM Edited by Leigh2154 on Sun 08/12/12 10:25 AM
It is NOT a Jewish symbol, as the information on Wikipedia is wrong concerning this sacred geometric shape. Yeah yeah. The Star of David is not a Jewish symbol. And the cross is not a Christian symbol, the crescent is not an Islamic symbol and the Dharmacackra is not a Buddhist symbol. What does this have to do with stopping the Iran nuclear program? Nothing. It is brought up again only as a gratuitous and unwarranted attack on Jews here on mingle2. I was attacked for singing the praises of a Jewish Auschwitz Survivor and I am labelled an Anti-Semitic. I have not seen you attacked. It is your views advocating discredited antisemitic global domination conspiracy theories which were used as Nazi propaganda which are rightfully ridiculed here. I suspect the reason Meyer is praised is because he expressed sympathy for the tragic plight of the Palestinians. In fact it's abuse of the memory of those who were brutally slaughtered at Auschwitz and in the other Nazi death camps when you make a rude comparison between anti-terrorist bomb inspections (like those which now go on in every airport in the world - and at Israeli border crossings) with mass genocide. Of course there is no comparison with someone waiting in line for an hour and millions of people being killed - shot and buried many for example injured but still alive. It is this incredibly disgusting and insensitive and inappropriate comparison which is so easily lampooned. Clearly such attempts to minimize the very real suffering of millions of people while comparing mass exterminations with bag and parcel inspections are at their heart antisemitic and this is why people correctly point out how these remarks are in fact antisemitic. Israel has always had laws upholding the freedoms of all citizens. Israel has always tried to avoid conflict and respect others. Palestinians/Arabs have always had a policy of elimination of Jews. Pal/Arabs have repeatedly and intentionally taught Jew hatred to kids. Pal/Arabs use war crime terrorist tactics of intentionally trying to kill innocent women and children as a political/military strategy. Yet, in agreement with antisemites the legitimacy of Jews and Israel are repeatedly attacked and the brutality of the war crimes of the Palestinians and Arabs are ignored. So there you have it. Slow, once again I have to praise your words....You articulate with passion and conviction, knowledge and honesty ...Your posts completely overshadow and render meaningless the ignorance and bigotry you respond to...Thank you...

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 08/12/12 09:31 AM
Thank you lovely lady.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 08/12/12 09:43 AM
The Isreali recruitment process actually has a international center in many former Soviet newly formed republics geared at indoctrination and replenishing depleteing Isreali armed forces. Many Jews and non jews throughout the world are encouraged to move to Isreal. They are offered accomadations with higher standards of living as opposed to the poverty they lived in their own countrys. Many are encouraged to quietly seek asylum in an isreali embassy where they are then offered incentive according to age and probided the meet phisical requirements of good health. They will be provided all they need provided they enlist in the armed forces. While serving they are encouraged to despise Arabs, and particularly Palestinians. They are trained in various desentisizing programs as to maintain a focused and loyalty to the Isreali goverment. Many who are recruited are orphaned and know not their parents. Part of the training requires that an orphaned bey be taught to hate Arabs, many are taught that Arabs killed their family, yhe new recruits swear loyalty to Isreal and are greatfull for a better standard of living, and gladly serve in the armed forces in gratitude and a false sence of harbored desire for revengr. This is a lot of hogwash. Jews from all over the world go to Israel as a refuge from intolerance and persecution! For example, Jews possessions were taken and they were driven out of the surrounding Arab countries last century, they were subjected to terrible violent antisemitic attacks in Russia, they have been discriminated against and bombed in their places of worship and recreation in South America and Morocco and Egypt and Libya. Of course the ultimate persecution was the Nazi final solution throughout Europe. This continues today with killings in India and southern France for example. So, Jews are still going to Israel to escape persecution and have religious freedom. They are not bribed any more than those seeking asylum in the US are bribed by our job opportunities and religious freedom here. In Israel Jews, Christians, Muslims and all other religions have complete religious freedom to worship openly and the support and understanding of the Govt and their families from all over the world. There is no toleration for hate speech against any minority in Israel and certainly no teaching of hatred of Palestinians to their children. This is in stark contrast to radical Islamic texts in the Palestinian areas which teach children the virtue of killing Jews in martyrdom and parties with suicide vests and antisemitic TV shows. Sorry but this is very different.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 08/12/12 09:51 AM
Iran has the same right to produce weapons or anyother endeaver they choose as does any other nation, invluding N. Korea, China ect. Nobody has more weapons of mass destruction than the US goverment. I dont recall Iran useing "agent orange" nor dropping two bombs on anyone. The premise for Irans enriching uranium is a mere attempt to season world opinion and justify a war. The same premise used for the Iraq war. Iran is a radical Islamic theocracy whose leaders have called upon the extermination of Jews and deny the Holocaust. They openly express the desire to overthrow neighboring Arab regimes in favor of spreading their version of radical Islam to these regions. The government in Iran brutally suppresses dissenting political dialogue and has been declared the worst state sponsor of terrorism by the United States and others for Iran's subjugation of her own citizens and for their support of terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas and the Taliban. Iranian weapons have been discovered in use by these terrorist groups and have been used to kill many innocent people on purpose by these groups. Iranian weapons have been discovered in huge arms shipments to terrorist groups for use in killing innocent men, women and children. This is why the rest of the world does not wish Iran to develop weapons of mass destruction particularly nuclear weapons. Of course, if Iran dismantles their program openly and verifiably then the sanctions will soon be over and there will be no reason to disarm them by force. Same thing with N Korea. Don't think that anyone wants N Korea to develop more weapons of mass destruction either for similar reasons.

plumbermark Joined Mon 08/06/12 Posts: 18	Sun 08/12/12 10:15 AM
I hope isreal kills syria....im white.....east canadian...bomb the whole continent , except the innocent of cour

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 10:35 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/12/12 10:37 AM
Iran has vowed to make Israel extinct. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel Iran lays out legal case for genocidal attack against 'cancerous tumor' The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people. The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide. Calling Israel a danger to Islam, ------------------------------------------------------------------ Muslims are a threat to civilized and intelligent people. Perhaps, they are the cancerous tumor? ---> The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people.<----- Oh yeh right! For sure that is not PROPAGANDA put out by the CABAL to justify a war with Iran.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 10:39 AM
I hope isreal kills syria....im white.....east canadian...bomb the whole continent , except the innocent of cour None of the above makes any sense. You're white? Are you one of the white supremacists? And how would you propose bombing the whole continent without killing the innocent?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 10:46 AM
Iran has the same right to produce weapons or anyother endeaver they choose as does any other nation, invluding N. Korea, China ect. Nobody has more weapons of mass destruction than the US goverment. I dont recall Iran useing "agent orange" nor dropping two bombs on anyone. The premise for Irans enriching uranium is a mere attempt to season world opinion and justify a war. The same premise used for the Iraq war. Iran is a radical Islamic theocracy whose leaders have called upon the extermination of Jews and deny the Holocaust. They openly express the desire to overthrow neighboring Arab regimes in favor of spreading their version of radical Islam to these regions. The government in Iran brutally suppresses dissenting political dialogue and has been declared the worst state sponsor of terrorism by the United States and others for Iran's subjugation of her own citizens and for their support of terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas and the Taliban. Iranian weapons have been discovered in use by these terrorist groups and have been used to kill many innocent people on purpose by these groups. Iranian weapons have been discovered in huge arms shipments to terrorist groups for use in killing innocent men, women and children. This is why the rest of the world does not wish Iran to develop weapons of mass destruction particularly nuclear weapons. Of course, if Iran dismantles their program openly and verifiably then the sanctions will soon be over and there will be no reason to disarm them by force. Same thing with N Korea. Don't think that anyone wants N Korea to develop more weapons of mass destruction either for similar reasons. Yey right. The Elite want to peacefully take over the entire world and convince them to live according to what they think is proper, and to worship God only in the way they think is correct, and to just work like slaves and pay their taxes to the corporation and obey all their "laws." The brotherhood of the Elite just want to be in charge of the entire world. They don't believe there should be any sovereign states or countries. The Elite want to disarm the entire world so that no one would dare to stand against them and their globalist agenda.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 08/12/12 10:47 AM
Unfortunately the USA is in no position to define who is a sponsor of terror or terrorist considering her historical medling, assassinations, overthrowing of goverments around the world. Iran had no weapons of mass destruction when the USA overthrew the Iranian goverment of Mohammad Mossadegh and placed the puppet regime of the Shah of Iran on the thrown so that multinational corporations could get the oil out of Iran at a cheaper price .Ralph McGehee, author of "Deadly Deciet; My 25 years in the CIA," was stationed in Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, the Philippines and Vietnam, working as a case officer on covert operations. Speaking with Senator Pat Moynihan, he said "Mr. Chairman, I believe that CIA covert operations, whether paramilitary or not, have helped to destroy democracy around the world. By means of these operations, the CIA has replaced popular goverments, with brutal murderous, U.S controled military dictatorships that torture and kill there own citizens. "So whether they involve paramilitary actions, political interventions, propaganda campaigns or other kind of deceptions

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 11:01 AM
According to Lindsey Williams, who claims to have inside sources with the Elite club, the entire middle east will be handed over to the Muslim Brotherhood and chaos will reign. This is by design. They want this to happen according to him. (What do you think will happen to Israel if that happens?) And if the American economy collapses America will not be able to help Israel defend itself from all the people surrounding them who they claim hate them and want them "annihilated." The rich and powerful Jewish leaders will abandon Israel like rats leaving a sinking ship and the poor population of Jews left in Israel will be left defenseless. The American dollar will reach the end of its reign as being the reserve currency at the end of 2012. If the American giant oil rig does not blow up, America will no longer have to depend on foreign oil. The Elite will control the price of oil totally in America.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 08/12/12 11:05 AM
Covert operations are all designed to benefit US based multinational corporations that exproptiate the national resources of so called target countries. These operations hurt the indiginous people and eventually Americans themselves.Americas foreign policy toward central America, Africa, Asia, the Middle East and Latin America is a reflection of their own wickedness towards these people. America like a giant serpant, has decieved the whole world. Many bought the Iraq war hook line and sinker, again they will buy it for the same reasons. American gullibility is classic and old, as they benefit as well. Finally the multinatinal corporations do consist of Jews vested interests that have nothing to do with Iranian weaponary. Cosidering the media in America is the nations most powerfull institution, I highly doubt truth is part of their agenda of war profiteering.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 11:06 AM
Unfortunately the USA is in no position to define who is a sponsor of terror or terrorist considering her historical medling, assassinations, overthrowing of goverments around the world. Iran had no weapons of mass destruction when the USA overthrew the Iranian goverment of Mohammad Mossadegh and placed the puppet regime of the Shah of Iran on the thrown so that multinational corporations could get the oil out of Iran at a cheaper price .Ralph McGehee, author of "Deadly Deciet; My 25 years in the CIA," was stationed in Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, the Philippines and Vietnam, working as a case officer on covert operations. Speaking with Senator Pat Moynihan, he said "Mr. Chairman, I believe that CIA covert operations, whether paramilitary or not, have helped to destroy democracy around the world. By means of these operations, the CIA has replaced popular goverments, with brutal murderous, U.S controled military dictatorships that torture and kill there own citizens. "So whether they involve paramilitary actions, political interventions, propaganda campaigns or other kind of deceptions This is true. And I believe the plan is to destroy America as well - and install a ruthless dictator here. er.... maybe they already have done that.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 08/12/12 11:14 AM
I hope isreal kills syria....im white.....east canadian...bomb the whole continent , except the innocent of cour this is an interesting position, however im interested to know how do you bomb a whole continent without hurting the innocent? And of course the middle east is not a continant, im curious to know as to what continant you are refering to?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 11:20 AM
I hope isreal kills syria....im white.....east canadian...bomb the whole continent , except the innocent of cour this is an interesting position, however im interested to know how do you bomb a whole continent without hurting the innocent? And of course the middle east is not a continant, im curious to know as to what continant you are refering to? Right. Hey I have an idea. Let's just kill all the "evil" people. (I'll tell you who they are.)

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 08/12/12 11:27 AM
TRUE LIES QUOTE: Helen: Have you ever killed anyone? Harry: Yeah, but they were all bad.

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sun 08/12/12 11:30 AM
Get back on topic and leave the drama off of the forums! Kim

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 08/12/12 11:38 AM Edited by Ras427 on Sun 08/12/12 11:41 AM
Jeanniebean, you present a scary yet viable position in that many cities police resemble paramilitary goon squads, most are already completely militarized. Homeland security has already provided grants to cities to purchase various typs of drones. Sophisticated drones with micromechanical capabilities. Some are like the ones used in Afghanastan, Somalia and some can be fitted in a backback to be launched as survalience, or to survey targets ahead of you. Some are as small as your hand and smaller. Also Canada and Alaska have recently sold huge land plots to the US goverment deep in northern Canada. Many possabilities in such a purchase. Finally, the elite have a common philosophy, "why save a sinking ship, when you can prepare another ship for the eventual sinking of the original ship.