Topic: Israel to attack Iran before US election in November - media
s1owhand's photo
Sat 08/11/12 10:20 PM

Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media
From John Whitley
11-21-3

From southern France, Christopher Jones summarizes and comments on a report on the assassination of President Kennedy. Need I stress that WAIS censors only direct attacks on other WAISers and grossly improper laguage.

Christopher says: "I glanced at the Kennedy assassination site and found this; it fits into our discussion of Hollywood stereotypes and the slavish behavior of the US press after the 9/11 tragedy and in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. In a quick rundown, the website recapitulates an old story that I heard back in the late sixties and early seventies in California: that Kennedy was liquidated by the mafia whose kingpin was Meyer Lansky (pal of Lucky Luciano). In fact, I could add a small tidbit which the author may or may not have covered: that Marilyn Monroe was murdered by the mafia as a warning to her lovers; Bobby and Jack Kennedy. The story of the Corsican hit squad was documented in a TV documentary in Europe. Of course it would be interesting to know more about Auguste Ricord and his collaboration wih the Gestapo and if he had anything to do with our old friend, Mandel Szkolnikoff.

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and Interscope Records.

Most of the larger independent newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well. An example is media mogul is Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown, and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million subscribers."

article on rense.com

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm



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This has nothing to do with Iran or anything else. One can just as
easily cite 10,000 names of Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist
executives of major corporations...

laugh

And it would be equally meaningless to this argument.

laugh

One has to question why it is that posts here always try to single out
Jews for some kind of derision. But it seems to be merely an unhealthy
and misguided preoccupation with Jews for no other reason than that they
are Jewish.

whoa

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/11/12 10:24 PM

Are the Jews an invented people?
by Eric Rouleau


How the Jewish people were invented, from the Bible to Zionism is the provocative title of the most recent book to be published in Israel by Shlomo Sand, a professor at Tel Aviv University (forthcoming in French with Fayard). Sand, one of the “new” historians, attacks what he calls the myth that the Jews are the descendants of the Hebrews, exiled from the kingdom of Judaea. He has attempted to show that the Jews are neither a race nor a nation, but ancient pagans – in the main Berbers from North Africa, Arabs from the south of Arabia, and Turks from the Khazar empire – who converted to Judaism between the fourth and eighth centuries CE. According to Sand, the Palestinians are probably descended from Hebrews who embraced Islam or Christianity.

Sand doesn’t challenge Israel’s right to exist or the notion of its sovereignty, but he thinks that sovereignty is undermined by its exclusively ethnic base, which stems from the racism of Zionist ideologues. In other words, Israel shouldn’t be a Jewish state, but a democratic secular one which belongs to all its citizens.

This is a good point. Dr Amy-Jill Levine (of Vanderbilt) discusses the pagan origins of the jews in her scholarly work. I recommend her Old Testament lectures (from thegreatcourses.com).

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/11/12 10:29 PM


Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media
From John Whitley
11-21-3

From southern France, Christopher Jones summarizes and comments on a report on the assassination of President Kennedy. Need I stress that WAIS censors only direct attacks on other WAISers and grossly improper laguage.

Christopher says: "I glanced at the Kennedy assassination site and found this; it fits into our discussion of Hollywood stereotypes and the slavish behavior of the US press after the 9/11 tragedy and in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. In a quick rundown, the website recapitulates an old story that I heard back in the late sixties and early seventies in California: that Kennedy was liquidated by the mafia whose kingpin was Meyer Lansky (pal of Lucky Luciano). In fact, I could add a small tidbit which the author may or may not have covered: that Marilyn Monroe was murdered by the mafia as a warning to her lovers; Bobby and Jack Kennedy. The story of the Corsican hit squad was documented in a TV documentary in Europe. Of course it would be interesting to know more about Auguste Ricord and his collaboration wih the Gestapo and if he had anything to do with our old friend, Mandel Szkolnikoff.

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and Interscope Records.

Most of the larger independent newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well. An example is media mogul is Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown, and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million subscribers."

article on rense.com

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm



Before you jump in here and make nasty remarkes about Rense.com, spend some time checking out the information first.




This has nothing to do with Iran or anything else. One can just as
easily cite 10,000 names of Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist
executives of major corporations...

laugh

And it would be equally meaningless to this argument.

laugh

One has to question why it is that posts here always try to single out
Jews for some kind of derision. But it seems to be merely an unhealthy
and misguided preoccupation with Jews for no other reason than that they
are Jewish.

whoa

Regardless of your opinion on this subject, it is quite clear it is about Israel, not jews. The ethnic jews of the mideast never had a nation-State like modern Israel. They had a kingdom/minor empire for a while, but that was destroyed. The jewish power brokers and bankers the other posters in this and other threads mention are khazars. The Khazars are European in origin and adopted Judaism as a political move. They have no genetic relationship to ethnic jews.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 08/11/12 10:41 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 08/11/12 10:43 PM
double psot

s1owhand's photo
Sat 08/11/12 10:42 PM

Are the Jews an invented people?
by Eric Rouleau


How the Jewish people were invented, from the Bible to Zionism is the provocative title of the most recent book to be published in Israel by Shlomo Sand, a professor at Tel Aviv University (forthcoming in French with Fayard). Sand, one of the “new” historians, attacks what he calls the myth that the Jews are the descendants of the Hebrews, exiled from the kingdom of Judaea. He has attempted to show that the Jews are neither a race nor a nation, but ancient pagans – in the main Berbers from North Africa, Arabs from the south of Arabia, and Turks from the Khazar empire – who converted to Judaism between the fourth and eighth centuries CE. According to Sand, the Palestinians are probably descended from Hebrews who embraced Islam or Christianity.

Sand doesn’t challenge Israel’s right to exist or the notion of its sovereignty, but he thinks that sovereignty is undermined by its exclusively ethnic base, which stems from the racism of Zionist ideologues. In other words, Israel shouldn’t be a Jewish state, but a democratic secular one which belongs to all its citizens.


Well here is another attack on mingle2 Jews which has nothing at all
to do with the thread topic of stopping Iran's nuclear weapons program.

But I guess there is no real interest in stopping Iran's nuclear
weapons development as a topic here. It is more of a general attempt
to attack and denigrate Jews and deny their existence or lack of
common heritage or the sincerity of their religious beliefs again
and again and again.

As has been demonstrated to you repeatedly, genetic research has shown
that Jews from all over the world share common ancestry which is from
the middle east - regardless of whether they are Russian Jews or
European Jews, American Jews, South American Jews, Asian Jews or
Middle Eastern Jews. But instead of accepting the DNA evidence,
reference is made here again and again of various antisemitic
conspiratorial speculations which have no basis in fact.

Jews from all different nations and ethnicities just like Christians
or Muslims or Buddhists or Hindus are simply those who follow the
religion. Interestingly enough though Jews are a small enough group
that their common ancestry can be traced genetically.

There are numerous threads here already explaining this...but it seems
that it is always ignored in favor of these unjustified and deplorable
attacks no matter what the topic is.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 08/11/12 10:49 PM


It is NOT a Jewish symbol, as the information on Wikipedia is wrong concerning this sacred geometric shape.



Yeah yeah. The Star of David is not a Jewish symbol.

laugh

And the cross is not a Christian symbol, the crescent is not an Islamic
symbol and the Dharmacackra is not a Buddhist symbol.

What does this have to do with stopping the Iran nuclear program?

Nothing.

It is brought up again only as a gratuitous and unwarranted attack on Jews
here on mingle2.


Conrad_73's photo
Sun 08/12/12 01:13 AM



Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media
From John Whitley
11-21-3

From southern France, Christopher Jones summarizes and comments on a report on the assassination of President Kennedy. Need I stress that WAIS censors only direct attacks on other WAISers and grossly improper laguage.

Christopher says: "I glanced at the Kennedy assassination site and found this; it fits into our discussion of Hollywood stereotypes and the slavish behavior of the US press after the 9/11 tragedy and in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. In a quick rundown, the website recapitulates an old story that I heard back in the late sixties and early seventies in California: that Kennedy was liquidated by the mafia whose kingpin was Meyer Lansky (pal of Lucky Luciano). In fact, I could add a small tidbit which the author may or may not have covered: that Marilyn Monroe was murdered by the mafia as a warning to her lovers; Bobby and Jack Kennedy. The story of the Corsican hit squad was documented in a TV documentary in Europe. Of course it would be interesting to know more about Auguste Ricord and his collaboration wih the Gestapo and if he had anything to do with our old friend, Mandel Szkolnikoff.

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and Interscope Records.

Most of the larger independent newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well. An example is media mogul is Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown, and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million subscribers."

article on rense.com

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm



Before you jump in here and make nasty remarkes about Rense.com, spend some time checking out the information first.




This has nothing to do with Iran or anything else. One can just as
easily cite 10,000 names of Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist
executives of major corporations...

laugh

And it would be equally meaningless to this argument.

laugh

One has to question why it is that posts here always try to single out
Jews for some kind of derision. But it seems to be merely an unhealthy
and misguided preoccupation with Jews for no other reason than that they
are Jewish.

whoa

Regardless of your opinion on this subject, it is quite clear it is about Israel, not jews. The ethnic jews of the mideast never had a nation-State like modern Israel. They had a kingdom/minor empire for a while, but that was destroyed. The jewish power brokers and bankers the other posters in this and other threads mention are khazars. The Khazars are European in origin and adopted Judaism as a political move. They have no genetic relationship to ethnic jews.
wrong!

And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article.

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6


And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract:

=-=-=-=

Abstract

For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

=-=-=-=

Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from
all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using
the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is
a fact.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466

I am of course getting told now that this is another "Zionist" Conspiracy"!:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 08/12/12 01:20 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 08/12/12 01:33 AM

Are the Jews an invented people?
by Eric Rouleau


How the Jewish people were invented, from the Bible to Zionism is the provocative title of the most recent book to be published in Israel by Shlomo Sand, a professor at Tel Aviv University (forthcoming in French with Fayard). Sand, one of the “new” historians, attacks what he calls the myth that the Jews are the descendants of the Hebrews, exiled from the kingdom of Judaea. He has attempted to show that the Jews are neither a race nor a nation, but ancient pagans – in the main Berbers from North Africa, Arabs from the south of Arabia, and Turks from the Khazar empire – who converted to Judaism between the fourth and eighth centuries CE. According to Sand, the Palestinians are probably descended from Hebrews who embraced Islam or Christianity.

Sand doesn’t challenge Israel’s right to exist or the notion of its sovereignty, but he thinks that sovereignty is undermined by its exclusively ethnic base, which stems from the racism of Zionist ideologues. In other words, Israel shouldn’t be a Jewish state, but a democratic secular one which belongs to all its citizens.
yeah right,Uncle Eric,a Friend of Yasser!
And Uncle Shlomo!laugh

Winston Churchill addressed this strategy when he said “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 08/12/12 01:50 AM
is that the same Media,that,according to Conspiracy-Theorists, consistently disseminates Dis-Information?

Ras427's photo
Sun 08/12/12 04:29 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWJtOGVazk&feature=relmfu

Israeli media says a military strike on Iran could be imminent and could take place in the coming months. Tel Aviv has long threatened to attack, saying international sanctions against the country over its nuclear plans are not enough. But, as Anastasia Churkina reports, an early use of force by Israel could leave Barack Obama red-faced entering this November's presidential race.

Israel to attack Iran before US election in November - media report


All Iran has to do to prevent any attack and instead get aid and
support from the rest of the world is to stop enriching uranium and
decommission their nuclear weapons activities.

Then there would be no need to disarm them by force.

However it will come as no surprise to anyone that if Iran does not
voluntarily stop their nuclear weapons development activities that
such activities will be stopped by force at some time.

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 08/12/12 04:39 AM
Winston Churchill may have been an Anti-Semite. It is said that he blamed the Jews in part for the antagonism they endured.


Ras427's photo
Sun 08/12/12 04:40 AM
Iran has the same right to produce weapons or anyother endeaver they choose as does any other nation, invluding N. Korea, China ect. Nobody has more weapons of mass destruction than the US goverment. I dont recall Iran useing "agent orange" nor dropping two bombs on anyone. The premise for Irans enriching uranium is a mere attempt to season world opinion and justify a war. The same premise used for the Iraq war.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 08/12/12 05:01 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 08/12/12 05:37 AM



Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media
From John Whitley
11-21-3

From southern France, Christopher Jones summarizes and comments on a report on the assassination of President Kennedy. Need I stress that WAIS censors only direct attacks on other WAISers and grossly improper laguage.

Christopher says: "I glanced at the Kennedy assassination site and found this; it fits into our discussion of Hollywood stereotypes and the slavish behavior of the US press after the 9/11 tragedy and in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. In a quick rundown, the website recapitulates an old story that I heard back in the late sixties and early seventies in California: that Kennedy was liquidated by the mafia whose kingpin was Meyer Lansky (pal of Lucky Luciano). In fact, I could add a small tidbit which the author may or may not have covered: that Marilyn Monroe was murdered by the mafia as a warning to her lovers; Bobby and Jack Kennedy. The story of the Corsican hit squad was documented in a TV documentary in Europe. Of course it would be interesting to know more about Auguste Ricord and his collaboration wih the Gestapo and if he had anything to do with our old friend, Mandel Szkolnikoff.

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and Interscope Records.

Most of the larger independent newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well. An example is media mogul is Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown, and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million subscribers."

article on rense.com

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm



Before you jump in here and make nasty remarkes about Rense.com, spend some time checking out the information first.




This has nothing to do with Iran or anything else. One can just as
easily cite 10,000 names of Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist
executives of major corporations...

laugh

And it would be equally meaningless to this argument.

laugh

One has to question why it is that posts here always try to single out
Jews for some kind of derision. But it seems to be merely an unhealthy
and misguided preoccupation with Jews for no other reason than that they
are Jewish.

whoa

Regardless of your opinion on this subject, it is quite clear it is about Israel, not jews. The ethnic jews of the mideast never had a nation-State like modern Israel. They had a kingdom/minor empire for a while, but that was destroyed. The jewish power brokers and bankers the other posters in this and other threads mention are khazars. The Khazars are European in origin and adopted Judaism as a political move. They have no genetic relationship to ethnic jews.


The repeated posts about Jewish religious symbols, false Jewish world
domination conspiracy theories, Jewish heritage and genetic lines have
NOTHING whatsoever to do with the supposed title of the thread which
concerns the Iranian nuclear arms development effort.

laugh

The "Khazar theory" you speak of is another antisemitic attempt to deny
Jewish heritage and has been refuted through the real genetic
studies cited above and in numerous other mingle2 threads.
The Khazar theory has been widely criticized in academic scholarship
and the only big proponents of it are those who are constantly
trying to diminish the obvious and documented ties of Jews to Israel.

There is no reason to repeatedly post these anti-Jewish and
anti-Israel rants except to spread false antisemitic propaganda
which is a disgusting thing to see especially after it has been
debunked numerous times by various members here on the forums.


Optomistic69's photo
Sun 08/12/12 05:26 AM
It has been said by many that the middle east would settle if the Palestine injustice was finalized.

Israel is a beach head for world domination...it may be a pawn in the scheme of things.

It may be eventually sacrificed for The New World Order...


Just saying

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 08/12/12 05:47 AM

It has been said by many that the middle east would settle if the Palestine injustice was finalized.

Israel is a beach head for world domination...it may be a pawn in the scheme of things.

It may be eventually sacrificed for The New World Order...


Just saying
laugh

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Sun 08/12/12 06:21 AM



It is NOT a Jewish symbol, as the information on Wikipedia is wrong concerning this sacred geometric shape.



Yeah yeah. The Star of David is not a Jewish symbol.

laugh

And the cross is not a Christian symbol, the crescent is not an Islamic
symbol and the Dharmacackra is not a Buddhist symbol.

What does this have to do with stopping the Iran nuclear program?

Nothing.

It is brought up again only as a gratuitous and unwarranted attack on Jews
here on mingle2.




Are you Jewish Slohand?

I was attacked for singing the praises of a Jewish Auschwitz Survivor and I am labelled an Anti-Semitic.


s1owhand's photo
Sun 08/12/12 08:24 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 08/12/12 09:11 AM




It is NOT a Jewish symbol, as the information on Wikipedia is wrong concerning this sacred geometric shape.



Yeah yeah. The Star of David is not a Jewish symbol.

laugh

And the cross is not a Christian symbol, the crescent is not an Islamic
symbol and the Dharmacackra is not a Buddhist symbol.

What does this have to do with stopping the Iran nuclear program?

Nothing.

It is brought up again only as a gratuitous and unwarranted attack on Jews
here on mingle2.



I was attacked for singing the praises of a Jewish Auschwitz Survivor and I am labelled an Anti-Semitic.


I have not seen you attacked. It is your views advocating
discredited antisemitic global domination conspiracy theories
which were used as Nazi propaganda which are rightfully ridiculed
here.

I suspect the reason Meyer is praised is because he expressed sympathy
for the tragic plight of the Palestinians. In fact it's abuse of the
memory of those who were brutally slaughtered at Auschwitz and in
the other Nazi death camps when you make a rude comparison between
anti-terrorist bomb inspections (like those which now go on in every
airport in the world - and at Israeli border crossings) with
mass genocide.

Of course there is no comparison with someone waiting in line for
an hour and millions of people being killed - shot and buried many for example
injured but still alive. It is this incredibly disgusting and
insensitive and inappropriate comparison which is so easily lampooned.

Clearly such attempts to minimize the very real suffering of
millions of people while comparing mass exterminations with bag
and parcel inspections are at their heart antisemitic and this is
why people correctly point out how these remarks are in fact
antisemitic.

Israel has always had laws upholding the freedoms of all citizens.
Israel has always tried to avoid conflict and respect others.

Palestinians/Arabs have always had a policy of elimination of Jews.
Pal/Arabs have repeatedly and intentionally taught Jew hatred to kids.
Pal/Arabs use war crime terrorist tactics of intentionally trying
to kill innocent women and children as a political/military strategy.

Yet, in agreement with antisemites the legitimacy of Jews and
Israel are repeatedly attacked and the brutality of the war crimes of the Palestinians and Arabs are ignored.

So there you have it.

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 08/12/12 08:35 AM
The above post should be withdrawn and the poster given an opportunity to reword it

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 08/12/12 08:42 AM
An outrageous personal attack and should be taken off this thread.

Ras427's photo
Sun 08/12/12 08:58 AM
The Isreali recruitment process actually has a international center in many former Soviet newly formed republics geared at indoctrination and replenishing depleteing Isreali armed forces. Many Jews and non jews throughout the world are encouraged to move to Isreal. They are offered accomadations with higher standards of living as opposed to the poverty they lived in their own countrys. Many are encouraged to quietly seek asylum in an isreali embassy where they are then offered incentive according to age and probided the meet phisical requirements of good health. They will be provided all they need provided they enlist in the armed forces. While serving they are encouraged to despise Arabs, and particularly Palestinians. They are trained in various desentisizing programs as to maintain a focused and loyalty to the Isreali goverment. Many who are recruited are orphaned and know not their parents. Part of the training requires that an orphaned bey be taught to hate Arabs, many are taught that Arabs killed their family, yhe new recruits swear loyalty to Isreal and are greatfull for a better standard of living, and gladly serve in the armed forces in gratitude and a false sence of harbored desire for revengr.