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Topic: Welfare,
AndyBgood's photo
Tue 08/07/12 06:26 PM
Should it be a free ride or should it come with strings attached?


I say make it stringy! It should be designed to help people get back on their feet. NOT SUPPORT THEM LIKE A GOLDEN LOTTERY TICKET! People should be made to do in order to receive Welfare. I could care less if it is volunteer work, sponsored jobs, or starting a business with Government help. The only people it should support are those who really and honestly cannot work for themselves from catastrophic injury and other qualified acts of God. Just because a Teen gets pregnant means NOTHING! If she has no ambitions other than to stay at home and raise children (which is an utter excuse!) she deserves NOTHING! I MEAN NO HELP! If she is working and struggling, Her family struggles, and she is trying to do the right thing by doing for herself then welfare should be there to help her. She is giving back to the community buy doing for herself as best she can. If she is in School and is struggling to stay there she should be helped! Likewise if the baby's father is involved in the child's life and doing the right thing and they still struggle we should be there to help. Instead of punishing people who try to do something with themselves we should reward them. Those who feel the world owes them a living should go F*** OFF and be told to do so to their face if that attitude is discovered!!! Right now it seems the system rewards slovenly and bad behavior!

A drug addict who just trolls the streets and all they want to do is take drugs, FORGET IT! If they get rehab and pee clean maybe but just to support drug abuse and alcoholism, NO FREAKING WAY!

Illegal Immigrants, Now this goes without saying. If you are here illegally get legal or get out. The idea our government is giving aid to CRIMINALS WHO KNOW THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY IS HYPOCRITICAL OF THE LAWS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SWORE TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT!

I feel Welfare has become an Entitlement people all too readily abuse. Those in REAL need are being ripped off to give to the unworthy. Welfare is a broken system that needs redesign.

Also I personally feel it sucks children are suffering BUT it was their parents who drag them into the situation the parents live in. Giving aid to illegal aliens is stealing from our own children and it is THEIR PARENTS WHO NEED TO GET A DOSE OF REALITY! If anything their parents compound the crime of them being here illegally since they are putting their children in danger, NOT OUR SYSTEM AND PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP TO THAT FACT AS WELL! Responsibility is a double edged sword and it is not our government's responsibility to support criminals or their families!

Social Security is a different argument all together. I am curious to see what others think about the Welfare system in America.

italio69's photo
Tue 08/07/12 06:33 PM
drinker

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 08/07/12 06:49 PM

drinker


I agree, I got to wonder how hot the ideals I speak of are going to RILE BHLs across this nation!

drinker So who is bringing the six-pack and popcorn?drinker

no photo
Tue 08/07/12 06:56 PM
I have a neighbor hispanic family. I don't know if they are legal or not but they don't speak english. I have noticed after their third Anchor Baby, neither the father or the mother no longer work. I wonder why?
what

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 08/07/12 07:02 PM



Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/07/12 09:28 PM




Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/07/12 09:30 PM
I think the system in place is sufficient.

requiring work activities for monetary assistance, and helping impoverished children have food on their tables and medical care,,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 08/07/12 10:56 PM





Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

Prove it, prove it for all 50 states!

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 08/07/12 11:14 PM






Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

Prove it, prove it for all 50 states!


Exactly. California has the worst welfare system in the nation! And with that turd pie jerry brown running things here we haven't got a chance of solvency!

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/08/12 12:17 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 08/08/12 12:18 AM






Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

Prove it, prove it for all 50 states!



the FEDERAL Requirements (the fed program would be the one taxpayers pay into,,as part of the FEDERAL BUDGET most gripe about,)

require work activity for monetary assistance

read more here,,

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/opa/fact_sheets/tanf_factsheet.html

Chazster's photo
Wed 08/08/12 07:11 AM
And how many laws are the feds enforcing. We already know they are not enforcing immigration law.

no photo
Wed 08/08/12 07:56 AM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 08/08/12 08:19 AM







Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date


My former bro-in-law has lived in California over 20 yrs on welfare. Free food, free rent, free medical and free marijuana.



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

Prove it, prove it for all 50 states!


Exactly. California has the worst welfare system in the nation! And with that turd pie jerry brown running things here we haven't got a chance of solvency!

Former bro-in-law has lived in California over 20 yrs on welfare. Free food, free rent, free medical and free marijuana.

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 08/08/12 08:02 AM
They should all be told that if they work hard they can become Billionaires....bigsmile The American Dream Has Become a Nightmare because people are looking in the wrong Direction.


Look Upwards Folks.....Not Down


no photo
Wed 08/08/12 08:15 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Wed 08/08/12 08:15 AM

They should all be told that if they work hard they can become Billionaires....bigsmile The American Dream Has Become a Nightmare because people are looking in the wrong Direction.


Look Upwards Folks.....Not Down



What is the Irish dream?.....This sound familiar?


"In many ways, the Great Correction is hitting Ireland harder than the USA. If the US overbuilt, Ireland overbuilt even more. If the US over-borrowed, Ireland borrowed even more. And if the USA got lost in debt finance, Ireland got lost in dreamland.

“We are dreamers, I guess. And storytellers. It’s a status thing in Ireland. You go into a bar. Look for the fellow who has the most people gathered around him. He’s the big man locally. Not the doctor. Not the politician. Not the rich man.

“We’re dreamers and storytellers…and then, we come to believe our own stories. “

The Irish dream big. The republic is not big enough for them. So they go abroad. Only 4 million of them are left on the island. Some 60 million of their descendants – the Irish diaspora – live in America, Canada, Australia, Argentina and elsewhere. Your editor is one of them.

For the first time in more than a decade, the Irish are emigrating again.

“If you’re a smart young man or woman, what else can you do? It’s sad for their families. But Ireland has nothing to offer them. They have to leave. And usually, they don’t come back.”

no photo
Wed 08/08/12 08:28 AM


They should all be told that if they work hard they can become Billionaires....bigsmile The American Dream Has Become a Nightmare because people are looking in the wrong Direction.


Look Upwards Folks.....Not Down



What is the Irish dream?.....This sound familiar?


"In many ways, the Great Correction is hitting Ireland harder than the USA. If the US overbuilt, Ireland overbuilt even more. If the US over-borrowed, Ireland borrowed even more. And if the USA got lost in debt finance, Ireland got lost in dreamland.

“We are dreamers, I guess. And storytellers. It’s a status thing in Ireland. You go into a bar. Look for the fellow who has the most people gathered around him. He’s the big man locally. Not the doctor. Not the politician. Not the rich man.

“We’re dreamers and storytellers…and then, we come to believe our own stories. “

The Irish dream big. The republic is not big enough for them. So they go abroad. Only 4 million of them are left on the island. Some 60 million of their descendants – the Irish diaspora – live in America, Canada, Australia, Argentina and elsewhere. Your editor is one of them.

For the first time in more than a decade, the Irish are emigrating again.

“If you’re a smart young man or woman, what else can you do? It’s sad for their families. But Ireland has nothing to offer them. They have to leave. And usually, they don’t come back.”


Are the Irish immigrating to Palestine? laugh

no photo
Wed 08/08/12 08:45 AM



They should all be told that if they work hard they can become Billionaires....bigsmile The American Dream Has Become a Nightmare because people are looking in the wrong Direction.


Look Upwards Folks.....Not Down



What is the Irish dream?.....This sound familiar?


"In many ways, the Great Correction is hitting Ireland harder than the USA. If the US overbuilt, Ireland overbuilt even more. If the US over-borrowed, Ireland borrowed even more. And if the USA got lost in debt finance, Ireland got lost in dreamland.

“We are dreamers, I guess. And storytellers. It’s a status thing in Ireland. You go into a bar. Look for the fellow who has the most people gathered around him. He’s the big man locally. Not the doctor. Not the politician. Not the rich man.

“We’re dreamers and storytellers…and then, we come to believe our own stories. “

The Irish dream big. The republic is not big enough for them. So they go abroad. Only 4 million of them are left on the island. Some 60 million of their descendants – the Irish diaspora – live in America, Canada, Australia, Argentina and elsewhere. Your editor is one of them.

For the first time in more than a decade, the Irish are emigrating again.

“If you’re a smart young man or woman, what else can you do? It’s sad for their families. But Ireland has nothing to offer them. They have to leave. And usually, they don’t come back.”


Are the Irish immigrating to Palestine? laugh



laugh No, I heard they don't like the weather....Too hot....

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/08/12 09:25 AM








Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date


My former bro-in-law has lived in California over 20 yrs on welfare. Free food, free rent, free medical and free marijuana.



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

Prove it, prove it for all 50 states!


Exactly. California has the worst welfare system in the nation! And with that turd pie jerry brown running things here we haven't got a chance of solvency!

Former bro-in-law has lived in California over 20 yrs on welfare. Free food, free rent, free medical and free marijuana.


thats interesting,, what type of 'welfare' is he on

cant be tanf if he is a single male, or if he has received it for 20 years,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/08/12 09:26 AM

And how many laws are the feds enforcing. We already know they are not enforcing immigration law.


thats a false assumption

knowing that not all criminals are brought to justice does not mean the criminal laws NEVER get enforced,,,,

there are always those who find ways to cheat the system,, rich or poor,,,

Chazster's photo
Wed 08/08/12 10:10 AM
No the current administration admitted to not pursuing known illegals if they committed no other crimes.

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 08/08/12 10:18 AM







Welfare brats should pay taxes

welfare brats should be forced to prove they are looking for work

welfare brats MUST take random drug tests

welfare brats should only be allowed to claim one child

welfare brats should be subjected too random home searches to look for drugs, cigarettes, party likker, and the recipient them self be checked for new tattoos gold dental work

welfare bratting MUST have an expiration date



all that is already required,, EXCEPT the drug testing,,,and claiming the children

family size is used in the formula for household income, just like it is when taxes are filed or tax 'credits' are given to working families,,,

Prove it, prove it for all 50 states!



the FEDERAL Requirements (the fed program would be the one taxpayers pay into,,as part of the FEDERAL BUDGET most gripe about,)

require work activity for monetary assistance

read more here,,

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/opa/fact_sheets/tanf_factsheet.html


They don't require very hard because people make careers out of welfare. When I say mandatory i mean they must go to the DES office once a week with a list of possible employers and turn in names and phone numbers so DES can call and verify that the person is actually looking for work.

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