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Topic: Pro-Pedophile Law in Iran. Coming to the US?
willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 07/12/12 02:20 PM
Sharia in action: Islamic Republic of Iran misunderstands Islam, seeks to legalize marriage for girls under 10 Child marriage is rampant among those who believe that Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur'an 33:21), but Islamic spokesmen in the West frequently assert that it is a cultural phenomenon that has nothing to do with Islam. They did not, however, tell the mullahs. "The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." -- Bukhari 7.62.88 Muslims take this seriously and imitate Muhammad in this. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: "Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed." The Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl "a divine blessing," and advised the faithful: "Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house." ?"Iran seeks to legalize marriage for girls under 10," from Mohabat News, July 7 (thanks to Lachlan): According to recently released statistics, in the past few weeks over 75 female children under 10 were forced to marry much older men. In 3929 cases, bride and groom were both under 14. In a discussion of the issue organized by the Khabar Online news website, conservative law-maker and spokesperson for the Majles committee Mohammad Ali Isfenani said: "Before the revolution girls under 16 were not allowed to marry. Parents determined to get around the law would often tamper with their daughter's birth certificate. Under the previous constitution, people were legally regarded as adults when they were 18. After the revolution the age at which children were regarded as going through puberty was lowered to 9 for girls and 15 for boys. " [sic] He added: "As some people may not comply with our current Islamic legal system, we must regard 9 as being the appropriate age for a girl to have reached puberty and qualified to get married. To do otherwise would be to contradict and challenge Islamic Sharia law."

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 07/12/12 02:27 PM
I can actually foresee several legal grounds for present age based laws to become repealed as we 'progress' more ,,,,,

Ticker Joined Tue 12/25/07 Posts: 10	Thu 07/12/12 02:29 PM
A child 9 yrs old or 10 yrs old being forced to marry is barbaric as hell. Those people have a special place in hell. No excuse for such behavior!

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 07/12/12 02:30 PM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 07/12/12 02:34 PM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 07/12/12 02:40 PM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures. You think it will stop there? How many women out there in Mingle-land would sell their 9 year old daughter to marry an old pervert?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 07/12/12 02:45 PM
Just say no. Don't let religions or corporations force their laws on you.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 07/12/12 02:49 PM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures. You think it will stop there? How many women out there in Mingle-land would sell their 9 year old daughter to marry an old pervert? in mingle land? probably none in the real world, probably as many as would sell them for anything else...and probably already do

lilcountrygrl Joined Tue 05/15/12 Posts: 25	Thu 07/12/12 03:16 PM
There is no excuse for any of it. I understand respecting religion, but raping a child is not excusable. They are forcing their kids to marry so some "man" can have a virgin bride and they can get a dowry! A nine year is old is still a child, not a bride!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 07/12/12 03:27 PM
There is no excuse for any of it. I understand respecting religion, but raping a child is not excusable. They are forcing their kids to marry so some "man" can have a virgin bride and they can get a dowry! A nine year is old is still a child, not a bride! that is IF we all agree that a primary part of marriage is sex,, which not everyone does, IF marriage is not about sex but about sharing life and assets,, the argument could hold water that those parents are signing over their rights to another person with no place for the law to assume what goes on in the bed,,,, I dont approve of it at all, but I Can see the legal arguments if we change what MARRIAGE is defined as,,,,or what its boundaries and expectations are,,,

motowndowntown Joined Wed 11/19/08 Posts: 21803	Thu 07/12/12 04:05 PM
Why do we need pro pedifile laws when we've got the Catholic church and Penn State.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 07/12/12 04:08 PM
Iran belies 9 years old is old enough to breed. I would imagine, Muslims in the Nation of Islam would love to get in on some of that action.

Ticker Joined Tue 12/25/07 Posts: 10	Thu 07/12/12 04:20 PM
Why do we need pro pedifile laws when we've got the Catholic church and Penn State. Penn State just went bye bye.....

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 07/14/12 12:57 AM
There is no excuse for any of it. I understand respecting religion, but raping a child is not excusable. They are forcing their kids to marry so some "man" can have a virgin bride and they can get a dowry! A nine year is old is still a child, not a bride! that is IF we all agree that a primary part of marriage is sex,, which not everyone does, IF marriage is not about sex but about sharing life and assets,, the argument could hold water that those parents are signing over their rights to another person with no place for the law to assume what goes on in the bed,,,, I dont approve of it at all, but I Can see the legal arguments if we change what MARRIAGE is defined as,,,,or what its boundaries and expectations are,,, They may be physically able but no where near mentally able.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 07/14/12 01:30 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 07/14/12 02:17 AM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures. what "Biological"Processes? Jeepers Creepers! A Child is a Child,no matter what some Religious Nut is trying to tell us! It is becoming high time to hold People who immigrate into western Countries by our Standards,not changing ours to theirs! Pedophilia is Pedophilia,and being sanctioned by some Imam or other Cleric doesn't change a thing!

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 07/14/12 01:49 AM
Sharia in action: Islamic Republic of Iran misunderstands Islam, seeks to legalize marriage for girls under 10 Child marriage is rampant among those who believe that Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur'an 33:21), but Islamic spokesmen in the West frequently assert that it is a cultural phenomenon that has nothing to do with Islam. They did not, however, tell the mullahs. "The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." -- Bukhari 7.62.88 Muslims take this seriously and imitate Muhammad in this. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: "Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed." The Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl "a divine blessing," and advised the faithful: "Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house." ?"Iran seeks to legalize marriage for girls under 10," from Mohabat News, July 7 (thanks to Lachlan): According to recently released statistics, in the past few weeks over 75 female children under 10 were forced to marry much older men. In 3929 cases, bride and groom were both under 14. In a discussion of the issue organized by the Khabar Online news website, conservative law-maker and spokesperson for the Majles committee Mohammad Ali Isfenani said: "Before the revolution girls under 16 were not allowed to marry. Parents determined to get around the law would often tamper with their daughter's birth certificate. Under the previous constitution, people were legally regarded as adults when they were 18. After the revolution the age at which children were regarded as going through puberty was lowered to 9 for girls and 15 for boys. " [sic] He added: "As some people may not comply with our current Islamic legal system, we must regard 9 as being the appropriate age for a girl to have reached puberty and qualified to get married. To do otherwise would be to contradict and challenge Islamic Sharia law." I know I read how the Pedophile Mohammud used to play with Aisha and her childrens toys then boink her. A religion of depravity.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 07/14/12 01:51 AM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures. Your nuts! That will never fly in the US. No way will they reduce the age to under 18 or 16 in some states.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/14/12 02:19 AM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures. Your nuts! That will never fly in the US. No way will they reduce the age to under 18 or 16 in some states. I believe they will, as 'friend' parents become more and more the norm,,,the 'naturalness' pubescent kids to have sex will creep into the laws enough to change them,,,,

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 07/14/12 06:12 AM
When they start selling off child brides people like Keith Willis can be set free and paid a couple kids as reparation for being wrongly imprisoned. Of course, they could be a couple used and tossed 10 year olds. NOI must be drooling at the prospect.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sat 07/14/12 06:35 AM
So, would you like seeing 9 year olds forced to marry old men? no, but I can see our ages reduced from where they currently are based upon contractual law and the rewriting of marital definitions and marital purpose. I can see a time when parents can consent to 'marry off' children as young as 13, but not as young as 9, unless our basic biological processes keep changing with the environment and pubert starts to onset at earlier ages. from that parental authority, I can also see 'forcing' a marriage as slowly entering our culture. although the consequence for disobedience wont be the severe consequences held in some muslim cultures. what "Biological"Processes? Jeepers Creepers! A Child is a Child,no matter what some Religious Nut is trying to tell us! It is becoming high time to hold People who immigrate into western Countries by our Standards,not changing ours to theirs! Pedophilia is Pedophilia,and being sanctioned by some Imam or other Cleric doesn't change a thing! And since when did menstruation become tied to level of emotional maturity, mental health, and morality? ...I must of missed that one.... The only way forced marriage will "enter" American culture is if America ceases to be a free country...