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Topic: ACORN Housing Finally in Foreclosure
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Tue 07/03/12 09:16 AM

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/matthew-vadum/acorn-housing-finally-in-foreclosure/

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Tue 07/03/12 11:11 AM
Great find!
What a perfect theme for the 4th of July!!



Book Description
Publication Date: May 10, 2011 | ISBN-10: 1935071149 | ISBN-13: 978-1935071143 | Edition: 1
“Do you ever get the feeling America’s mounting problems are too grave to have happened by accident? You’re far from alone. America is under siege as radicals determined to pulverize the U.S. Constitution deliberately bankrupt the nation, destroy the electoral system, and drive the economy into the ground.

How do you destroy a great nation? Sap its citizens’ self-respect and encourage civil unrest. It’s no coincidence that the welfare rolls are exploding everywhere and there’s no end in sight. An appalling 1 in 7 Americans now receives food stamps and there are 70 bloated federal welfare programs. The failed War on Poverty that started in President Lyndon Johnson’s time has cost taxpayers a staggering $16 trillion – and President Obama, who killed the welfare reforms of the 1990s, wants to spend $10 trillion more! To help distribute the wealth even more, radicals handcuffed banks and forced them to give mortgages to people on welfare who had no chance of paying it back. This isn’t so-called social justice: it’s slow-motion national suicide.

How did a country with a respect for economic freedoms unparalleled in all of history ever get to this point? Marxist professors and agitators Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven spent their lives trying to destroy “the system” –American capitalism and democracy— in order to drag the country kicking and screaming into a socialist nightmare. They thought that if Americans could be strong-armed into going on welfare in large numbers radical change would surely follow. Liberals worked hand-in-hand with Communists and other extremists to undermine the American system by giving activists taxpayer money to bring it down.

Come again? Even now most Americans don’t realize that their taxes subsidize radical activist armies like those created by the late “professional radical” Saul Alinsky. These revolutionary organizations flourished and became a permanent force to be reckoned with on the nation’s political landscape. They’re still on the scene today.

The most important of them is the notorious ACORN – Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now – a Cloward-Piven spinoff. With Enron-style accounting practices and an elaborate corporate structure that puts international money launderers to shame, ACORN is unlike any other political strike force in U.S. history. Part pressure group, part urban terrorist network, part organized crime syndicate, ACORN claims only to want to help the poor. But it views the elimination of America’s free institutions as the only way to help the less fortunate. ACORN, President Obama’s favorite community organizing group, is all about massive voter fraud, home invasions, rent-a-mob services, intimidation, corporate shakedowns, and brutal Saul Alinsky-approved tactics.

And rumors of ACORN’s death have been greatly exaggerated. The group that became synonymous with sleaze and corruption when its employees were shown encouraging illegal behavior in the “pimp and prostitute” videos of 2009 is alive and well – and planning to resurface before the critical 2012 elections. While ACORN declared bankruptcy, its state chapters were busy changing their names and shredding documents. ACORN’s still out there operating because it never lets a good crisis go to waste.

Subversion Inc., by investigative reporter Matthew Vadum, isn’t just the story of ACORN. It’s the story of how community organizers just like President Obama are undermining America from within.”

http://www.amazon.com/Subversion-Inc-Terrorizing-American-Taxpayers/dp/1935071149/ref=as_li_tf_mfw?&camp=212361&linkCode=wey&tag=matthe033-20&creative=380733

InvictusV's photo
Tue 07/03/12 03:29 PM
its social justice..

stick it to whitey !!!!

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 03:44 PM
or not

we can keep 'sticking it' to the have nots

plenty of places for the 'blame game' to try and rest

or, we could IMPROVE The economic climate by encouraging and rewarding job CREATION IN THE USA, and providing better educational tools to prepare people to compete in the econimic climate

,,oh,, but why burden the 'bosses' with contributing more, we can just keep insisting that the impoverished arent working 'hard enough'



msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 03:59 PM
notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance

no photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:09 PM

notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh

InvictusV's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:09 PM

or not

we can keep 'sticking it' to the have nots

plenty of places for the 'blame game' to try and rest

or, we could IMPROVE The economic climate by encouraging and rewarding job CREATION IN THE USA, and providing better educational tools to prepare people to compete in the econimic climate

,,oh,, but why burden the 'bosses' with contributing more, we can just keep insisting that the impoverished arent working 'hard enough'





just keep doing your part to get Obama another 4 years and all your wishes will come true..

you will have green jobs(hahaha) and all the wealth redistribution you can handle.


msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:15 PM


notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,



msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:16 PM


or not

we can keep 'sticking it' to the have nots

plenty of places for the 'blame game' to try and rest

or, we could IMPROVE The economic climate by encouraging and rewarding job CREATION IN THE USA, and providing better educational tools to prepare people to compete in the econimic climate

,,oh,, but why burden the 'bosses' with contributing more, we can just keep insisting that the impoverished arent working 'hard enough'





just keep doing your part to get Obama another 4 years and all your wishes will come true..

you will have green jobs(hahaha) and all the wealth redistribution you can handle.





I plan to

Im more concerned with wealth 'access' than wealth 'redistribution'

no photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:25 PM



notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:28 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/03/12 04:30 PM




notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


just as every applicant is not the right fit for the employer,, every employer is not the right fit for an applicant,,,

InvictusV's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:33 PM



or not

we can keep 'sticking it' to the have nots

plenty of places for the 'blame game' to try and rest

or, we could IMPROVE The economic climate by encouraging and rewarding job CREATION IN THE USA, and providing better educational tools to prepare people to compete in the econimic climate

,,oh,, but why burden the 'bosses' with contributing more, we can just keep insisting that the impoverished arent working 'hard enough'





just keep doing your part to get Obama another 4 years and all your wishes will come true..

you will have green jobs(hahaha) and all the wealth redistribution you can handle.





I plan to

Im more concerned with wealth 'access' than wealth 'redistribution'



no photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:34 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Tue 07/03/12 04:38 PM





notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometimes getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested" in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things like bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toilets....

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:37 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/03/12 04:39 PM






notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometime getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things lik bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toliets.....



but, here is the rub,,from the PATIENTS point of view,,I dont want someone just 'doing a job' until something better comes along

there are also teaching jobs, but I dont want people just taking them on until 'something better comes'

these are fields where poeple should feel passionate and committed, in my opinion

so I wont go into them unless I am,, education is such a field for me

healthcare is not

because people are unemployed doesnt mean they are suited for ANY job that is available,,,it means compromise from an IDEAL, but it doesnt mean complete abandonment of skills and interests,,,

no photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:43 PM







notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometime getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things lik bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toliets.....



but, here is the rub,,from the PATIENTS point of view,,I dont want someone just 'doing a job' until something better comes along

there are also teaching jobs, but I dont want people just taking them on until 'something better comes'

these are fields where poeple should feel passionate and committed, in my opinion

so I wont go into them unless I am,, education is such a field for me

healthcare is not

because people are unemployed doesnt mean they are suited for ANY job that is available,,,it means compromise from an IDEAL, but it doesnt mean complete abandonment of skills and interests,,,



Well healthcare jobs are not the only ones available...if you want to work that is...How about waitressing....retail...housekeeping.....what about pickers....call centers...babysitting.....fastfood....you know jobs.....

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:45 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/03/12 04:47 PM








notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometime getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things lik bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toliets.....



but, here is the rub,,from the PATIENTS point of view,,I dont want someone just 'doing a job' until something better comes along

there are also teaching jobs, but I dont want people just taking them on until 'something better comes'

these are fields where poeple should feel passionate and committed, in my opinion

so I wont go into them unless I am,, education is such a field for me

healthcare is not

because people are unemployed doesnt mean they are suited for ANY job that is available,,,it means compromise from an IDEAL, but it doesnt mean complete abandonment of skills and interests,,,



Well healthcare jobs are not the only ones available...if you want to work that is...How about waitressing....retail...housekeeping.....what about pickers....call centers...babysitting.....fastfood....you know jobs.....



Im curious if you have looked for work lately Leigh?

even THOSE 'jobs' will usually require or PREFER those who have previous experience in the field

waitressing (in Nevada) forget about it if you arent colleged age or having experience


retail, Ive applied and still am applying

no clue what a picker is,

call centers, Ive applied and still am applying

babysitting, I have NO references because I have only watched my own family





fastfood does not have a steady enough schedule for someone with pre school aged children and no babysitter


regardless of how SIMPLE people continue to believe it is,, there are many considerations and challenges to becoming 'hired',,,,


particularly for single parents,,of pre school aged children

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 07/03/12 04:58 PM



notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





It is the "handouts" and the wars that have bankrupted us, the policies of the last 2 dictators that implimented them, and the people too stupid to vote for something different when it is offered to them!

You can't get out of debt by creating more debt. You can't promote business and jobs by regulating the free market!

Keep voting for your welfare POTUS and in a year nobody will be getting any more as the banks fail, the economy erupts, and the dollar is useless!

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Tue 07/03/12 05:02 PM









notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometime getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things lik bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toliets.....



but, here is the rub,,from the PATIENTS point of view,,I dont want someone just 'doing a job' until something better comes along

there are also teaching jobs, but I dont want people just taking them on until 'something better comes'

these are fields where poeple should feel passionate and committed, in my opinion

so I wont go into them unless I am,, education is such a field for me

healthcare is not

because people are unemployed doesnt mean they are suited for ANY job that is available,,,it means compromise from an IDEAL, but it doesnt mean complete abandonment of skills and interests,,,



Well healthcare jobs are not the only ones available...if you want to work that is...How about waitressing....retail...housekeeping.....what about pickers....call centers...babysitting.....fastfood....you know jobs.....



Im curious if you have looked for work lately Leigh?

even THOSE 'jobs' will usually require or PREFER those who have previous experience in the field

fastfood does not have a steady enough schedule for someone with pre school aged children and no babysitter


regardless of how SIMPLE people continue to believe it is,, there are many considerations and challenges to becoming 'hired',,,,


particularly for single parents,,of pre school aged children


As a matter of fact I have hon....I am a Certified Nurses Assistant, CNA for short....Some of the doctors and nurses here in Tennessee refer to us as butt wipes because we spend so much time changing diapers for patients who are incontinent of bladder or bowel or both....:smile: ...It is a very hard job...physically and emotionally demanding...The starting pay rate is minimum wage....The hours are long , typically three 12's...By the end of the third day you are usually too tired to eat....I came out of retirement (corporate accounting) to do it because I wanted to feel productive and because I wanted to help elders....Three years into this, I became an advocate for elders who reside in nursing homes in my area....I guess you could call me a whistle blower or an angel, depending on which side the the street you live on.....Why do you ask?....

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Tue 07/03/12 05:05 PM










notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometime getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things lik bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toliets.....



but, here is the rub,,from the PATIENTS point of view,,I dont want someone just 'doing a job' until something better comes along

there are also teaching jobs, but I dont want people just taking them on until 'something better comes'

these are fields where poeple should feel passionate and committed, in my opinion

so I wont go into them unless I am,, education is such a field for me

healthcare is not

because people are unemployed doesnt mean they are suited for ANY job that is available,,,it means compromise from an IDEAL, but it doesnt mean complete abandonment of skills and interests,,,



Well healthcare jobs are not the only ones available...if you want to work that is...How about waitressing....retail...housekeeping.....what about pickers....call centers...babysitting.....fastfood....you know jobs.....



Im curious if you have looked for work lately Leigh?

even THOSE 'jobs' will usually require or PREFER those who have previous experience in the field

fastfood does not have a steady enough schedule for someone with pre school aged children and no babysitter


regardless of how SIMPLE people continue to believe it is,, there are many considerations and challenges to becoming 'hired',,,,


particularly for single parents,,of pre school aged children


As a matter of fact I have hon....I am a Certified Nurses Assistant, CNA for short....Some of the doctors and nurses here in Tennessee refer to us as butt wipes because we spend so much time changing diapers for patients who are incontinent of bladder or bowel or both....:smile: ...It is a very hard job...physically and emotionally demanding...The starting pay rate is minimum wage....The hours are long , typically three 12's...By the end of the third day you are usually too tired to eat....I came out of retirement (corporate accounting) to do it because I wanted to feel productive and because I wanted to help elders....Three years into this, I became an advocate for elders who reside in nursing homes in my area....I guess you could call me a whistle blower or an angel, depending on which side the the street you live on.....Why do you ask?....


the tone and suggestions made seem like you believe jobs are abundant and easily obtained,,regardless of experience or skills,,,

I am not in retirement age yet, I still have a small child to look after, I am not a good fit for healthcare and there are enough others who are to easily fill the jobs IN MY AREA that would be available

with MY SITUATION, and MY particular challenges, finding a job isnt that easy

if it were JUST me,, of course, I could take whatever was there that would hire me

but I have to balance my parenting obligations with my workforce obligations,,,,

no photo
Tue 07/03/12 05:13 PM











notice


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2010USpn_13ps1n_40#usgs302


in 1970, shortly after our last SURPLUS

welfare was 2.15 of the GDP

NON unemployment making up 1.54 of that
and the other UNEMPLOYMENT RELATED Expense being .61

in 2010, 5.14 of GDP is spent
with a whoppig 2.16 percent of that being related to UNEMPLOYMENT

leaving 2.98 for non unemployment

so that means, we now have slightly more than doubled the assistance portion from what it was in our greatest surplus years

BUT

we have also quintupled the expense for Unemployment


likewise,,,the unemployment RATE in 1970 was 4.9 percent or nearly HALF of what it is now


so, we cant continue to ignore the PROBLEM of decreasing employment OPPORTUNITIES,,,,

just to lay blame on the people who struggle to get by by turning to public assistance


Why not?...For some reason you think these stats, these numbers, these persentages justify handouts....

Tell it to Obama...This is what he told you in Spetember, 2008....."As President, I will enact a Jobs for America economic plan that creates jobs, helps small businesses, expands opportunities and opens markets to American goods. Washington must stand beside the American people, not in their way."laugh


Tell something to those who keep insisting our problems are caused by welfare/ safety net programs

I am only refuting THEIR insane claims by pointing out the PROSPERITY That has happened before in years that welfare also was there

the BIGGEST difference we are facing is not in 'handouts', its in the UNEMPLOYMENT and the inferior, decaying ability to create jobs in this country, keep them in this country, and provide decent wages in this country,,,


I dont need to justify the HUMANE portion of our US budget,,,,anymore than others have to justify the WARFARE portions,,,,





With the country in such dire straits, I would think those taking handouts would be feeling a little guilty by now...Maybe thinking about creating a job or becoming a CNA (free training) and working in healthcare...There are more jobs than most facilities can fill...of course it is a lower level job and the pay is probably less than the handouts, but it offers job security and opportunity to advance....



healthcare jobs deal with peoples lives, I dont want people going into it who just are looking for a 'job' and I would never do that eitehr

healthcare requires a SINCERE interest because its hard work,,I dont have enough of an interest to be an asset to those who would be looking for my care, so I would not seek that position

I have went to school for other things I am interested though,,,because I know I would be a GREAT ASSET in those fields that I have some passion for,,,as opposed to just taking them for the check,,,


Well sometime getting back on your feet requires you do work that you don't have an "interest" in until you can afford the "luxury" of doing the type of work your are "interested in doing...And techs (CNA's) typically do not deal with medical issues...they do things lik bathing, feeding, and changing soiled adult diapers....They also make beds and clean toliets.....



but, here is the rub,,from the PATIENTS point of view,,I dont want someone just 'doing a job' until something better comes along

there are also teaching jobs, but I dont want people just taking them on until 'something better comes'

these are fields where poeple should feel passionate and committed, in my opinion

so I wont go into them unless I am,, education is such a field for me

healthcare is not

because people are unemployed doesnt mean they are suited for ANY job that is available,,,it means compromise from an IDEAL, but it doesnt mean complete abandonment of skills and interests,,,



Well healthcare jobs are not the only ones available...if you want to work that is...How about waitressing....retail...housekeeping.....what about pickers....call centers...babysitting.....fastfood....you know jobs.....



Im curious if you have looked for work lately Leigh?

even THOSE 'jobs' will usually require or PREFER those who have previous experience in the field

fastfood does not have a steady enough schedule for someone with pre school aged children and no babysitter


regardless of how SIMPLE people continue to believe it is,, there are many considerations and challenges to becoming 'hired',,,,


particularly for single parents,,of pre school aged children


As a matter of fact I have hon....I am a Certified Nurses Assistant, CNA for short....Some of the doctors and nurses here in Tennessee refer to us as butt wipes because we spend so much time changing diapers for patients who are incontinent of bladder or bowel or both....:smile: ...It is a very hard job...physically and emotionally demanding...The starting pay rate is minimum wage....The hours are long , typically three 12's...By the end of the third day you are usually too tired to eat....I came out of retirement (corporate accounting) to do it because I wanted to feel productive and because I wanted to help elders....Three years into this, I became an advocate for elders who reside in nursing homes in my area....I guess you could call me a whistle blower or an angel, depending on which side the the street you live on.....Why do you ask?....


the tone and suggestions made seem like you believe jobs are abundant and easily obtained,,regardless of experience or skills,,,

I am not in retirement age yet, I still have a small child to look after, I am not a good fit for healthcare and there are enough others who are to easily fill the jobs IN MY AREA that would be available

with MY SITUATION, and MY particular challenges, finding a job isnt that easy

if it were JUST me,, of course, I could take whatever was there that would hire me

but I have to balance my parenting obligations with my workforce obligations,,,,


Thank you for sharing, but I have never asked you about your personal circumstances, nor would I...What I keep telling you is it does not matter...It does not change facts...It has nothing to do with the discussion....Welfare does not work,,,,Our welfare system is broken....It DOES foster dependence...It undermines enterprise and autonomy..... It is unconstitutional....It is corrupt....It needs to be abolished...

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