Like Tony Blair Obama missed out on a glorious opportunity to go down in history as one of the greats.

Yep, some people aren't as smart as they think they are and caught up in big money and make bone headed decisions or just outright think they no whats best for citizens than the citizens do LOL That kind of thinking tends to piss people off LOL

uhuh, changing from the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs a month,,

changing from an auto industry troubled to a once again flourishing auto industry

changing from oil dependency to increasing GREEN energy production,,,

changing from 8.1 percent annualized spending pace, to a 1.4 percent


,,,and change that would be more if not for the congress of NO
but still coming in the next four years,,,,

Sure that is the rhetoric, but not the reality, in fact its not even something presidents can do, so the fact they make these claims should really show you something.

When a president claims to be able to create jobs, what they really mean is that they are going to grow government and those jobs are paid for with taxes.

When a president says they are going to fix an industry they mean they are going to give away tax dollars.

When a president says they are going to remove our dependency on oil, they mean they are going to subsidize other energy regardless of the market situation.

All while claiming to reduce spending . . . sorry, not possible to do all those thing, no less at the same time.

LIES LIES LIES

now this is interesting


so if a President CANT do these things, what CAN they do?

and how do people pick and choose which candidates are therefore 'lying' about what they will do if elected?

you bring up an excellent issue,,,,

what issue should presidents run on that is actually RELEVANT to what they 'can do'?

because I can make this same claim about almost any of the great and wonderful things anyones candidate claims THEY will 'do' in office,,,



*by the way, the auto industry wasnt 'given' money, they were loaned it and paid it back,,,

Answer your own question and we will go from there.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA


nice avoidance

my answer, which I have suggested to little avail many times in these forums

1. the citizenry needs to educate themself about what a PRESIDENT has the authority to do on his own and what REQUIRES congressional action FIRST.

2. On the LONG list of things that require the congressional support, the citizenry should first be looking at their current CONGRESS And what they are likely to try to pass. For instance, more tax cuts and loopholes for the wealthy.

3. Then AFTER examining honestly the congress agenda, the citizenry need to judge how much IN LINE Their presidential candidate is with the congress agenda. This means how likely he is to push it through or to challenge/veto it.

..there are many smokescreen issues that cater to emotionalism rather than logic in EVERY election. People get caught up all the time in what a candidate says they will 'do', when, as you so eloquently pointed out to me about my candidate,,

they dont honestly 'do' most of it because they have no authority to. THey can only propose it and hope a congress will put it through for them to sign.

But we can still vote for the candidate BASED upon the congress in power at the time. If we are mostly in agreement with congress, we will vote the candidate who is likewise in agreement. IF we are not mostly in agreement with congress, we will vote a candidate who is likewise not as much in agreement with congress.

in the end, most citizens vote for the candidate they feel has the best interests of the country at heart, but that is usually based upon a subjective standard of what that citizen believes is best,,,

and we have lots of citizens with lots of ideas of what would be best,,,,

usually, all but the hypocrites, will place credit/blame for whatever good/bad happens during any presidential term on that president alone, which fuels all the other misconceptions about how much is truly or uniquely due to who is 'president'


the hypocrites either only give blame to the president while explaining away anything GOOD as being some other cause

or they will give CREDIT to the president while explaining away anything BAD as some other cause,,,

Well I'm still unemployed and know many others who are till unemployed.

The only auto manufacturer who is doing good is Ford and that is because they didn't make dumb business decisions like GM and Chrysler.

Green energy is the wave of the future so I wouldn't go shaking his hand on that one.

And spending has increased, I look at the national debt clock and ignore the pro politician X websites.

In short you have said nothing that I already haven't heard you sat over and over...

lol, actually GM is the largest automaker in China (the worlds largest auto maker)


green energy is a wave, but people in OIL(who we have mostly depended upon and catered to) dont want it and havent wanted it to be,,,,

spending is much slower, and things have to slow down before they can stop....


in short, the post wasnt specifically for you, but Im glad you were already aware,,,

GM has plants worldwide, they also took the Obama bait and then realized what they did so they paid it all back rather quickly then had their security escort the government agents placed on their board as part of the handout off their property.

You are absolutely right about big oil not wanting green energy

Your hypothesis on spending is absolutely flawed

And I never said your post was specifically for me.

Right on!!

I dont have time for rhetorical questions . . . sorry.

Isn't it sad when we have to vote for the lesser of two evils?

I wouldnt know,, havent come across that scenario yet

I have always been able to vote for whom I thought was best,,,

Thank goodness you're only 1 vote!.... America has enough problems with Obozos ACORN stuffing the ballot boxes with votes of the dead and illegals!

Obozo only has till November to crash the economy....and he's hard at work!

With Paul still in the picture he can't count on Robme to finish it!

yeah, THOSE are americas major problems,,,,

he isnt perfect,
(I dont know Anyone running that is perfect,,,)

I doubt the economy is going to crash in the next six months let alone that anyone is INTENTIONALLY trying to make it crash,,

thats the emotional rhetoric that I hope doesnt appeal to more than a few voters


I consider OBama the best candidate,,,,

No, Americas BIGGEST problem is people who don't "defend" or support the constitution as you claim!