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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/05/12 01:12 PM



i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.

That is unless you base your beliefs on what other people say, and not on your own accordance...

which im not thinking you do babe.

And if you do,

why are we even having this discussion?

Its moot!


No it's not what others have inspired me to do,i know it seems odd to a believer cause of your faith but i have and will always know there is no god cause it's the same as all the other preAbrahamic religions..myth and exaggerated stories.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 01:19 PM




i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.

That is unless you base your beliefs on what other people say, and not on your own accordance...

which im not thinking you do babe.

And if you do,

why are we even having this discussion?

Its moot!


No it's not what others have inspired me to do,i know it seems odd to a believer cause of your faith but i have and will always know there is no god cause it's the same as all the other preAbrahamic religions..myth and exaggerated stories.
OK I HEARD THAT, BUT HOW ARE YOU USING THAT AS PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

Do you know stories that I dont, that prove that God is a myth.

Please enlighten me.

But more importantly, even if you do, can you prove them to be 100% accurate?

No.

So what are you basing your belief on, if not fact or proof.

FAITH,

and what is FAITH.

ITS A GUT FEELING THAT CANNOT BE PROVEN, OR SHOWN, that a person feels.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/05/12 01:25 PM





i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.

That is unless you base your beliefs on what other people say, and not on your own accordance...

which im not thinking you do babe.

And if you do,

why are we even having this discussion?

Its moot!


No it's not what others have inspired me to do,i know it seems odd to a believer cause of your faith but i have and will always know there is no god cause it's the same as all the other preAbrahamic religions..myth and exaggerated stories.
OK I HEARD THAT, BUT HOW ARE YOU USING THAT AS PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

Do you know stories that I dont, that prove that God is a myth.

Please enlighten me.

But more importantly, even if you do, can you prove them to be 100% accurate?

No.

So what are you basing your belief on, if not fact or proof.

FAITH,

and what is FAITH.

ITS A GUT FEELING THAT CANNOT BE PROVEN, OR SHOWN, that a person feels.
It's the history of religion itself first there was polytheism it was around for thousands of years then came the start of the Abrahamic religion which with mostly intimidating persuasion people began to follow it.Theres a pattern so in a few more thousand years a new religion will evolve.One has already the church of scientology.You can believe what you want your human i'm just explaining how i know there is no god,but there are others who claim God does exist thats fine because those in the past believed in many Gods now people believe in one God.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 02:33 PM
Edited by luv2roknroll on Tue 06/05/12 02:34 PM






i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.

That is unless you base your beliefs on what other people say, and not on your own accordance...

which im not thinking you do babe.

And if you do,

why are we even having this discussion?

Its moot!


No it's not what others have inspired me to do,i know it seems odd to a believer cause of your faith but i have and will always know there is no god cause it's the same as all the other preAbrahamic religions..myth and exaggerated stories.
OK I HEARD THAT, BUT HOW ARE YOU USING THAT AS PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

Do you know stories that I dont, that prove that God is a myth.

Please enlighten me.

But more importantly, even if you do, can you prove them to be 100% accurate?

No.

So what are you basing your belief on, if not fact or proof.

FAITH,

and what is FAITH.

ITS A GUT FEELING THAT CANNOT BE PROVEN, OR SHOWN, that a person feels.
It's the history of religion itself first there was polytheism it was around for thousands of years then came the start of the Abrahamic religion which with mostly intimidating persuasion people began to follow it.Theres a pattern so in a few more thousand years a new religion will evolve.One has already the church of scientology.You can believe what you want your human i'm just explaining how i know there is no god,but there are others who claim God does exist thats fine because those in the past believed in many Gods now people believe in one God.
<---*shakes RKISIT'S hand*

I can meet you right there, and we're good.:thumbsup:

We both stretched alittle, but havent sacrificed what we think.:heart:

That, to me anyways, draws a fair conclusion.flowerforyou

And YOU I can reason with.bigsmile

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/05/12 02:44 PM







i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.

That is unless you base your beliefs on what other people say, and not on your own accordance...

which im not thinking you do babe.

And if you do,

why are we even having this discussion?

Its moot!


No it's not what others have inspired me to do,i know it seems odd to a believer cause of your faith but i have and will always know there is no god cause it's the same as all the other preAbrahamic religions..myth and exaggerated stories.
OK I HEARD THAT, BUT HOW ARE YOU USING THAT AS PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

Do you know stories that I dont, that prove that God is a myth.

Please enlighten me.

But more importantly, even if you do, can you prove them to be 100% accurate?

No.

So what are you basing your belief on, if not fact or proof.

FAITH,

and what is FAITH.

ITS A GUT FEELING THAT CANNOT BE PROVEN, OR SHOWN, that a person feels.
It's the history of religion itself first there was polytheism it was around for thousands of years then came the start of the Abrahamic religion which with mostly intimidating persuasion people began to follow it.Theres a pattern so in a few more thousand years a new religion will evolve.One has already the church of scientology.You can believe what you want your human i'm just explaining how i know there is no god,but there are others who claim God does exist thats fine because those in the past believed in many Gods now people believe in one God.
<---*shakes RKISIT'S hand*

I can meet you right there, and we're good.:thumbsup:

We both stretched alittle, but havent sacrificed what we think.:heart:

That, to me anyways, draws a fair conclusion.flowerforyou

And YOU I can reason with.bigsmile
flowerforyou i agreedrinker

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Wed 06/06/12 05:11 AM

I think I should leave this conversation or I WILL end up getting myself in trouble,

and I want to remain on Mingle,


Luv2roknroll....I'm pretty sure you had more intense conversations with ex-boyfriends...so should the authorities perhaps check under your rose garden?




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Wed 06/06/12 05:27 AM

Not true, the bible is merely history, besides revelations. God speaks to you if you listen, again the scriptures are only there to give the history, and a few prophecies of the future.


Cowboy...if you are hearing voices...it may be sypmtoms of something other than God ...go talk about it to a preist and tell him that you are hearing voices and could it possibly be God ...he most likely will have no choice but to suggest that you first get it checked out medically

not trying to be funny...but it is the same procedure that the church would demand take place before they intervene in any types of this situations

because if you are actually hearing the voice of God...then you're up there with Moses and that's Sainthood ...St. Cowboy

but if you wish to insist on claiming that it's God but don't get it authenticated....then it's Hubris


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Wed 06/06/12 05:42 AM
Edited by funches on Wed 06/06/12 05:43 AM

Where does it say, other than in the Bible, that loving Jesus Christ MAKES YOU A CHRISTIAN.

IT DOESNT.


loving Jesus or loving anyone wouldn't make you a Christian...but for those that follow the teachings of Jesus it makes them a "Jew"...Jesus was Jewish...Jesus was teaching Judaism

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Wed 06/06/12 05:45 AM

A GUT FEELING.


Luv2roknroll...can you or anyone care to explain how you know that this gut feeling is God and not Gas?

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Wed 06/06/12 05:58 AM

Worshipping God specifically, is doing something out of the ordinary to uplift God's name and to praise him.


I guess God has low self-esteem ...and he need praise

hey God you're like awesome man....you're like so totally cool

you got like all these super powers and stuff...I want to be just like you totally

oops sorry God I didn't mean that...I seen what you did to Adam Eve and Satan for wanting to be like you


CowboyGH's photo
Wed 06/06/12 06:31 AM


Where does it say, other than in the Bible, that loving Jesus Christ MAKES YOU A CHRISTIAN.

IT DOESNT.


loving Jesus or loving anyone wouldn't make you a Christian...but for those that follow the teachings of Jesus it makes them a "Jew"...Jesus was Jewish...Jesus was teaching Judaism


What are you talking about? Jesus didn't teach Judaism. If Jesus taught Judaism, Christianity and Judaism would be the same exact thing. Christianity comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ eg., "Christ"ianity.

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Wed 06/06/12 06:32 AM


Worshipping God specifically, is doing something out of the ordinary to uplift God's name and to praise him.


I guess God has low self-esteem ...and he need praise

hey God you're like awesome man....you're like so totally cool

you got like all these super powers and stuff...I want to be just like you totally

oops sorry God I didn't mean that...I seen what you did to Adam Eve and Satan for wanting to be like you




????

It's called giving credit where credit is due.

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Wed 06/06/12 06:33 AM

Yes this is exactly what "faith" is. Someone that doesn't believe in God, doesn't mean they don't have faith. They have just placed their faith in there not being a God. There is no such thing as a "faithless" person. Yes a faithless in God person, but none the less on a general note, there is no such thing as a "faithless" person. They just have chosen to place their faith elsewhere.


Cowboy...how is claiming that non-believers having faith in something other than God...has anything to do with the grace of your God?

you have just place something else above your God and given it your Faith

this is why Faith only applies to a belief in God not a dis-belief...

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Wed 06/06/12 06:44 AM

What are you talking about? Jesus didn't teach Judaism. If Jesus taught Judaism, Christianity and Judaism would be the same exact thing. Christianity comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ eg., "Christ"ianity.


Jesus taught in a synagogue ....the Pharisees nor the people would have allowed him to teach in the temple if he was teaching anything but Judaism.... this is simple logic


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Wed 06/06/12 06:47 AM
Edited by funches on Wed 06/06/12 06:50 AM



Worshipping God specifically, is doing something out of the ordinary to uplift God's name and to praise him.


I guess God has low self-esteem ...and he need praise

hey God you're like awesome man....you're like so totally cool

you got like all these super powers and stuff...I want to be just like you totally

oops sorry God I didn't mean that...I seen what you did to Adam Eve and Satan for wanting to be like you




????

It's called giving credit where credit is due.


because of possible copyright violations? ....

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Wed 06/06/12 10:28 AM


Yes this is exactly what "faith" is. Someone that doesn't believe in God, doesn't mean they don't have faith. They have just placed their faith in there not being a God. There is no such thing as a "faithless" person. Yes a faithless in God person, but none the less on a general note, there is no such thing as a "faithless" person. They just have chosen to place their faith elsewhere.


Cowboy...how is claiming that non-believers having faith in something other than God...has anything to do with the grace of your God?

you have just place something else above your God and given it your Faith

this is why Faith only applies to a belief in God not a dis-belief...


"Faith" in general has nothing to do specifically with "God".

Faith - 1.Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

That could range from having faith in your relationship, faith your car will make it to the gas station with the amount it has, faith you'll get the job you been fighting to get, ect ect."Faith" in general, has absolutely NOTHING to do with God purely. God wants you to put your faith in him, but that is because he wishes to have a relationship with you.

And what are you talking about? Placing something above God? I placed nothing above God, my entire faith goes into God. I have no other faith but the faith of God. I have no faith I will eat later if not by the grace of God, I have no faith I'll even make it till tomorrow but by the grace of God.

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Wed 06/06/12 10:30 AM


What are you talking about? Jesus didn't teach Judaism. If Jesus taught Judaism, Christianity and Judaism would be the same exact thing. Christianity comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ eg., "Christ"ianity.


Jesus taught in a synagogue ....the Pharisees nor the people would have allowed him to teach in the temple if he was teaching anything but Judaism.... this is simple logic




Uhh, no. That's the reason he was crucified, because he was not teaching Judaism.

Give me just one thing Judaism and what Jesus taught has in common. What was one thing Jesus taught of Judaism.

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Wed 06/06/12 10:33 AM



What are you talking about? Jesus didn't teach Judaism. If Jesus taught Judaism, Christianity and Judaism would be the same exact thing. Christianity comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ eg., "Christ"ianity.


Jesus taught in a synagogue ....the Pharisees nor the people would have allowed him to teach in the temple if he was teaching anything but Judaism.... this is simple logic




Uhh, no. That's the reason he was crucified, because he was not teaching Judaism.

Give me just one thing Judaism and what Jesus taught has in common. What was one thing Jesus taught of Judaism.


Jesus was spreading his laws, not the laws of Judaism. Heck they didn't believe Jesus to be the promissed messiah, thus we now have Christianity. People that practice Judaism, are still waiting for their promissed messiah.

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Wed 06/06/12 12:11 PM

"Faith" in general has nothing to do specifically with "God".


placing faith in anything but God is called Witchcraft


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Wed 06/06/12 12:12 PM

Uhh, no. That's the reason he was crucified, because he was not teaching Judaism.


thanks Cowboy for giving one of the reasons why Jesus should have been crucified

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