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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:33 PM


Worshipping something is a physical action of doing.

wrong Cowboy...you can worship with "thought" ...it's faith that is require to be shown in "works"



Obeying God is not specifically "worshipping" God. Yes, it is in a degree. But the worshipping comes in when one prays to God or possibly has church and they commune, lear, worship, and praise, ect.

Comparing apples and oranges again Funches. "Faith without works is dead" is not specifically referring to "worship". Is referring to our every day life, how we live.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:33 PM
I think I should leave this conversation or I WILL end up getting myself in trouble,

and I want to remain on Mingle,

besides which the questions you ask, over and over, again, ive answered over and over again, so apparently you either have trouble reading, or your not listening to what im saying anyways,

which means im wasting my precious breath.

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Tue 06/05/12 12:34 PM

THANK YOU!

Whats so hard to understand Funches.

And quit trying to twist my words. I KNOW what the hell im saying, so your not gonna make my words into something that they are not.


if was your veiws that was twisted....you were the one that tried to claim you were a Christian that approved of gay marriages ....

I had to untwist that view and get you to see the light...that gay marriages goes against being a Christian ....

so are you going to thank me?

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:34 PM






I belong to no individual form of organized religion.


neither does Satan
My HEART tells me not to worship Satan.


since you also claim that your heart also has doubts that the bible is 100 percent correct....then that is all that is required to worship Satan
My heart has doubts that THE BIBLE is 100% correct..

NOT ANY DOUBTS OF GODS EXISTENCE, or the love we share.


all you know about God or the existence of God is due to the bible...which is why if you doubt the bible you doubt God


Not true, the bible is merely history, besides revelations. God speaks to you if you listen, again the scriptures are only there to give the history, and a few prophecies of the future.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:35 PM


It's not about being "Christian". It's about loving and being obedient to Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior.


those are called "Christians" ....
Who says you have to be Christian, or believe that the bible is 100% to believe in God?

Its called faith, and faith doesnt have to based on any more then a gut feeling.

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Tue 06/05/12 12:36 PM

Obeying God is not specifically "worshipping" God. Yes, it is in a degree.


Cowboy 1...obeying God is not specifically "worshipping" God

Cowboy 2...Yes it is in a degree

ok now what does "Cowboy 3" has to say about it

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:36 PM
Edited by luv2roknroll on Tue 06/05/12 12:37 PM


THANK YOU!

Whats so hard to understand Funches.

And quit trying to twist my words. I KNOW what the hell im saying, so your not gonna make my words into something that they are not.


if was your veiws that was twisted....you were the one that tried to claim you were a Christian that approved of gay marriages ....

I had to untwist that view and get you to see the light...that gay marriages goes against being a Christian ....

so are you going to thank me?
Where did I ever say I was a Christian? And ive already said that if your going to incorporate that statement into me believing 100% in the bible, that I wouldnt be labeled as so.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:37 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 06/05/12 12:39 PM


It's not about being "Christian". It's about loving and being obedient to Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior.


those are called "Christians" ....


Yes people wish to segregate us from the general population. But again, that is their own choice.

We are not "Christians" persay. We are no different from you other then the fact that we have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. That doesn't make us a different "species" or anything lol.

The laws we abide by were given to the MANKIND. Not just the Christians. But the Christians have chose to be obedient to these laws, which then people give us the title "Christian".

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:39 PM


Obeying God is not specifically "worshipping" God. Yes, it is in a degree.


Cowboy 1... loves God

Cowboy 2... loves God

ok now what does "Cowboy 3" has to say about it


Cowboy 3 agrees with the other two that he loves God.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:42 PM


It's not about being "Christian". It's about loving and being obedient to Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior.

those are called "Christians" ....
Where does it say, other than in the Bible, that loving Jesus Christ MAKES YOU A CHRISTIAN.

IT DOESNT.

Because you dont have to be a member of any religion to have faith. And faith, as I said, can be based on anything from a gut feeling to a fact.

WOMANS INTUITION has no scientific proof. But ALOT of us rely on it, and us it because we believe it to be effective.

So what, I cant have WOMANS INTUITION and not be Christian?

Of course I can, based upon my believe of a gut feeling.



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Tue 06/05/12 12:42 PM



Obeying God is not specifically "worshipping" God. Yes, it is in a degree.


Cowboy 1... loves God

Cowboy 2... loves God

ok now what does "Cowboy 3" has to say about it


Cowboy 3 agrees with the other two that he loves God.


Worshipping God specifically, is doing something out of the ordinary to uplift God's name and to praise him. Christmas, Easter, Sabbath, prayer, ect.

Those are times of "worship" in specifics. Everyday life is being obedient to God, not specifically "worshipping" God.

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Tue 06/05/12 12:44 PM
How come non-believers go through life with no god or jesus but yet believers seem the need to worship and praise jesus or god?i don't feel the need to praise something or someone to make my life better i just live life.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:47 PM

How come non-believers go through life with no god or jesus but yet believers seem the need to worship and praise jesus or god?i don't feel the need to praise something or someone to make my life better i just live life.


God loves us all, regardless if one is "Christian" or not. We do not worship God and praise him and expect anything in return specifically for it. As in it's not like we need a vehicle cause our last one took a crap, so we praise and worship God to "butter" him up in order for him to give us a way to get another.

Worshipping God isn't specifically about making your life better, it's about giving credit where credit is due and telling God thanks for what he has done.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:49 PM

How come non-believers go through life with no god or jesus but yet believers seem the need to worship and praise jesus or god?i don't feel the need to praise something or someone to make my life better i just live life.
I dont feel a NEED to worship God, I WANT to worship God. It makes me feel good, and yeah, I could feel good before I got saved, but not half as good as I feel with God in my life.

Im not saying its for everyone.

Im the last person in the world to push religion down anyones throat, besides which I dont seem to follow organized religion anyways.

Oh and BTW, I didnt believe in God when I quit using drugs, or smoking cigarettes, cold turkey after over 25 years, so yeah, I dont NEED God to make my life better,

I CHOOSE it, because I CAN.

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Tue 06/05/12 12:51 PM


How come non-believers go through life with no god or jesus but yet believers seem the need to worship and praise jesus or god?i don't feel the need to praise something or someone to make my life better i just live life.


God loves us all, regardless if one is "Christian" or not. We do not worship God and praise him and expect anything in return specifically for it. As in it's not like we need a vehicle cause our last one took a crap, so we praise and worship God to "butter" him up in order for him to give us a way to get another.

Worshipping God isn't specifically about making your life better, it's about giving credit where credit is due and telling God thanks for what he has done.
well as for God loving us all thats your opinion.i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.

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Tue 06/05/12 12:54 PM
Edited by luv2roknroll on Tue 06/05/12 01:00 PM
i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?

Not to mention im not trying to shove the fact that "I" feel he does exist,

so why are you guys trying to shove it down my throat that he doesnt.

Live and let live.


RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/05/12 12:59 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 06/05/12 01:01 PM

i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology and exaggerated stories.

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Tue 06/05/12 01:04 PM
Edited by luv2roknroll on Tue 06/05/12 01:09 PM


i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.




CowboyGH's photo
Tue 06/05/12 01:07 PM



i know god doesn't exist so him loving me is impossible.Also you worship him and believe him as the creator i don't so i don't thank him for anything.
You KNOW?

How do you KNOW God doesnt exist?

There is no scientific proof one way or another.

So im guessing that your basing that on a "gut feeling"...right?
No it's not gut feeling god is the same as Zeus,Neptune,well pretty much all the other mythological gods.Thats how i see deity driven beliefs,it's all mythology.
So because you believe that there are mythological things in the world..

this means you KNOW that God is one of them?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Wheres your proof? You have non, your going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

Wheres my proof? I have non, im going on a belief that has no scientific evidence.

ITS CALLED A GUT FEELING, when you cant prove it but you just believe it.

Do you believe in unicorns? If not can you prove they dont exist, or didnt exist either.

No, you cant...therefore you would be basing that on an unfounded, unproved belief...

A GUT FEELING.




Yes this is exactly what "faith" is. Someone that doesn't believe in God, doesn't mean they don't have faith. They have just placed their faith in there not being a God. There is no such thing as a "faithless" person. Yes a faithless in God person, but none the less on a general note, there is no such thing as a "faithless" person. They just have chosen to place their faith elsewhere.

luv2roknroll's photo
Tue 06/05/12 01:10 PM
Edited by luv2roknroll on Tue 06/05/12 01:11 PM
A gut feeling..

That is unless you base your beliefs on what other people say, and not on your own accordance...

which im not thinking you do babe.

And if you do,

why are we even having this discussion?

Its moot!

That wouldnt be YOUR opinion or belief, it would be what youve been lead to believe or been told.

I prefere to have my OWN opinion on things.

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