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Topic: Pics posted on profile
lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 11:22 AM
One idea that social sites might want to think of is making someone post a 3 clear pics, but allow them to put them private if they wish and only show certain people, but admin. will have pictures to show police if there is ever an issue. Sure the pics could be fake pics, but than that would be against the law and prosecutable. And ISP would show who the real person is. This would not be fullproof...breathing is not fullproof, but could help.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Fri 05/18/12 11:27 AM
It is harder to hide with a clear picture. There are ways you can actually identify that pic. It is also illegal to use other people's pics claiming it to be you and you can be prosecuted for this.The more different clear pics to me the better to assure safety. So, I do feel that not having to put up a pic does make it easier for someone to hide. Just my opinion. If "Lex" had clear pictures up, it would have been clear that he had been lying about his age. When people use pictures like he did, it's quite easy to hide who you are. If I am going to meet someone, I expect to be able to pick them out in a crowd. If I feel their pictures (yes, multiple. only one picture is a bit weird) will not allow for that to happen, they are not clear enough. and what difference would him lying about his age have made in the grand sceme of things? I don't make it a point to run every person I chat with here through facial recognition software and a criminal background check. A clear picture of him would not have prevented him from being here. As a matter of fact, once upon a time... when I first started here back in '07' he DID have a picture with the hat but without the sunglasses up, holding a JSH sign. It was in relation to a thread that was going at the time. the picture didn't stay up long, but it was there. In reality, a clear picture won't do you any more good than a cartoon to find out a person's trueness. This has been an ongoing debate here for as long as I can remember.. "we want a clear face picture" "Why don't you post a full body picture?" "Is your picture current?" "why does everyone wear a hat in their pictures?" Finding out about him lying about his age (there was a big difference in his fake age and real age) would have set off a huge red flag. From there, you'd have to wonder what else he was lying about. All those questions you listed are valid if people are looking to meet others. Luckily, everyone I have met has looked like and been like they portrayed themselves to be. However, I've heard many stories about how someone looked completely different than their photo. Just that is enough to know something is really off with that person and a relationship/friendship should not be pursued.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 11:28 AM
Personally, I still think that good old common sense should be used and if it seems odd, it generally is. Definately never give out personal info or meet with someone that cannot produce a pic, a phone number, and, I even think ,a video chat.

izzie Joined Wed 02/21/07 Posts: 31834	Fri 05/18/12 11:31 AM
I'm just saying that in relation to "Lex" he DID have a clear picture, but he looked close enough to his "lex-age" with the hat on to not raise any flags (granted this was 5 years ago, and who knows how often he changed his age since then). a Clear picture did not "save us" from what happened in this situation. A picture is a picture. It will not protect you. Only you can protect yourself. Jmho.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Fri 05/18/12 11:33 AM Edited by singmesweet on Fri 05/18/12 11:35 AM
I don't remember him ever having a clear picture, which is why I responded the way I did. So, without actually seeing the picture you're referring to, I can't comment on it. No, a picture will not protect you. You must use common sense and be careful. However, finding out someone is lying about their picture or refuses to post one at all does show that they are not being truthful and would lead me to wonder what else is up. So yes, pictures can be quite helpful.

izzie Joined Wed 02/21/07 Posts: 31834	Fri 05/18/12 11:37 AM
it was likely before you joined. it was one of the first threads I was in, and I have been posting since early May'07. I didn't mean for that reply to sound as pushy or mean as it may have come across.. (I need to start proofing before I hit post). Sorry if it came across that way.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Fri 05/18/12 11:39 AM
No problem. I realize that people have very different opinions when it comes to things like pictures. We just have to go with our own preferences and what works for us.

JOHNN111 Joined Wed 05/13/09 Posts: 9273	Fri 05/18/12 12:26 PM
I'm just saying that in relation to "Lex" he DID have a clear picture, but he looked close enough to his "lex-age" with the hat on to not raise any flags (granted this was 5 years ago, and who knows how often he changed his age since then). a Clear picture did not "save us" from what happened in this situation. A picture is a picture. It will not protect you. Only you can protect yourself. Jmho. Agreed Izzie! However, finding out someone is lying about their picture or refuses to post one at all does show that they are not being truthful and would lead me to wonder what else is up. So yes, pictures can be quite helpful. Not being truthful? Is that right... I'll go further to say, pictures may give a false impression of the person you're seeing... smiling, all happy kinda pictures will make you feel as if you know them already. Oh and your laws won't protect any of you I'm afraid... This is an "international site"... Who's gonna enforce your laws in Zambia or Canada even? This is dumb.... Pictures wouldn't help one bit to expose a clean slate crook, child molester or murderer. Sorry but TRUST NO ONE online!

manOfewwords Joined Wed 10/22/08 Posts: 29908	Fri 05/18/12 12:29 PM
18 pics of me, that sounds great

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Fri 05/18/12 12:53 PM
Not being truthful? Is that right... I'll go further to say, pictures may give a false impression of the person you're seeing... smiling, all happy kinda pictures will make you feel as if you know them already. Oh and your laws won't protect any of you I'm afraid... This is an "international site"... Who's gonna enforce your laws in Zambia or Canada even? This is dumb.... Pictures wouldn't help one bit to expose a clean slate crook, child molester or murderer. Sorry but TRUST NO ONE online! Maybe I should have said not being upfront. Either way, there is something off about someone who has such a strong stance about not posting a picture. At least to me. The mingle administration has confirmed that they are not enforcing the picture guideline, so it's up to you to show a picture or not. And it's up to the rest of us to decide whether we'd be up for getting to know/meeting those who choose not to share pictures. No one is making you do anything. What laws are you talking about?

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48928	Fri 05/18/12 01:00 PM
One idea that social sites might want to think of is making someone post a 3 clear pics, but allow them to put them private if they wish and only show certain people, but admin. will have pictures to show police if there is ever an issue. Sure the pics could be fake pics, but than that would be against the law and prosecutable. And ISP would show who the real person is. This would not be fullproof...breathing is not fullproof, but could help. Uh, since when does an image rule created by a website equal a law?

JOHNN111 Joined Wed 05/13/09 Posts: 9273	Fri 05/18/12 01:05 PM
What laws are you talking about? Sorry, I should have clarified this. It was in response to LILANGELs repeated claim that it's "illegal" to use someone else's picture. pfffft! If the site operators cannot guaranty my online safety... and they all don't, I will take it upon MYSELF to take necessary precautions. I trust who I want to trust with my pictures.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 02:01 PM
One idea that social sites might want to think of is making someone post a 3 clear pics, but allow them to put them private if they wish and only show certain people, but admin. will have pictures to show police if there is ever an issue. Sure the pics could be fake pics, but than that would be against the law and prosecutable. And ISP would show who the real person is. This would not be fullproof...breathing is not fullproof, but could help. Uh, since when does an image rule created by a website equal a law? I am not sure of your question? Are you saying there is no law against using someone's pic as your own?

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 02:02 PM Edited by lilangel2 on Fri 05/18/12 02:07 PM
What laws are you talking about? Sorry, I should have clarified this. It was in response to LILANGELs repeated claim that it's "illegal" to use someone else's picture. pfffft! If the site operators cannot guaranty my online safety... and they all don't, I will take it upon MYSELF to take necessary precautions. I trust who I want to trust with my pictures. The law I think is called IMPERSONATION. Here is one for California. I cannot say what it is for all States or if all States have one, However. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/analysis-californias-online-impersonation-law-effective-january-1/209

izzie Joined Wed 02/21/07 Posts: 31834	Fri 05/18/12 02:07 PM
I think his point was that it may be a US law (although it is a vague law and there are some serious loopholes) it is a US LAW and this is an international site. No way to regulate.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 02:10 PM
I think his point was that it may be a US law (although it is a vague law and there are some serious loopholes) it is a US LAW and this is an international site. No way to regulate. That could be quite true. But, if a site is from a location within a certain country, they may still have to abide by the laws set forth for their country, if their are any. The internet and laws that govern it is very vague.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 02:30 PM
It does seem to be true that there really are NO INTERNATIONAL laws prohibiting E-personations. There are even some States in U.S. that do not have any clear laws on this, but There has been an increase in States that are now enacting laws. I did find one link that shows that there is an attempt of Nations to come together with some sort of blanket internet laws...but, it sure didn't look hopeful. Here is the link if anyone wants to read it. http://www.ip-watch.org/2012/02/29/un-human-rights-council-rallies-on-right-to-internet-freedom-of-expression/ So, I guess my idea would not be helpful unless their were some sort of international Internet laws pertaining to impersonation. Back to...good old common sense.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Fri 05/18/12 02:39 PM
...just call me chiquita crazy world Be safe back to MY REAL LIFE

Totage Joined Sat 10/13/07 Posts: 24210	Fri 05/18/12 02:45 PM
Ok, let's say theirs an international law that you can't post a pic of a banana with sunglasses. What happens now? What if you hide behind multiple proxies and spoofers?

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Fri 05/18/12 02:47 PM
I think his point was that it may be a US law (although it is a vague law and there are some serious loopholes) it is a US LAW and this is an international site. No way to regulate. I would think that if someone in Canada impersonated someone, the law in Canada would be what is followed. And if it happened in the US, the law in the US would be what's followed.