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Topic: children n racism
shandi69's photo
Sat 05/12/12 06:39 AM
i feel so helpless when my kids come home upset from school cause of kids n their racist remarks.
Have spoken to the school about it so many times, but to know avail this boys called my daughter a black **** and a few other things, and she got suspended for a week cause she spoke up and called him a gay raspberry that had BJL (b**w j*b lips).
I don't know how to help them anymore and try to make them so proud of who they r.....

no photo
Sat 05/12/12 06:58 AM
No human race is superior.. everyone is equal in front of GOD..don't worry.:smile:

oldhippie1952's photo
Sat 05/12/12 09:10 AM

i feel so helpless when my kids come home upset from school cause of kids n their racist remarks.
Have spoken to the school about it so many times, but to know avail this boys called my daughter a black **** and a few other things, and she got suspended for a week cause she spoke up and called him a gay raspberry that had BJL (b**w j*b lips).
I don't know how to help them anymore and try to make them so proud of who they r.....


Unfortunately children mimic parents, and those kids are in a bad environment from learning how to get along with everyone.

I pray as they get older they see the errors of their actions. I don't know what to tell you to build up their self-esteem, other than that ignorance comes in all forms.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 05/12/12 09:49 AM


i feel so helpless when my kids come home upset from school cause of kids n their racist remarks.
Have spoken to the school about it so many times, but to know avail this boys called my daughter a black **** and a few other things, and she got suspended for a week cause she spoke up and called him a gay raspberry that had BJL (b**w j*b lips).
I don't know how to help them anymore and try to make them so proud of who they r.....


Unfortunately children mimic parents, and those kids are in a bad environment from learning how to get along with everyone.

I pray as they get older they see the errors of their actions. I don't know what to tell you to build up their self-esteem, other than that ignorance comes in all forms.


maybe not... here is an article from live science a few weeks ago:


Wynne Parry
LiveScience
Fri, 04 May 2012 07:44 CDT
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Babies
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Adults have more difficulty recognizing faces that belong to people of another race, and this deficit appears to start early.

New research indicates that by the time they are 9 months old, babies are better able to recognize faces and emotional expressions of people who belong to the group they interact with most, than they are those of people who belong to another race.

Babies don't start out this way; younger infants appear equally able to tell people apart, regardless of race.

"These results suggest that biases in face recognition and perception begin in preverbal infants, well before concepts about race are formed. It is important for us to understand the nature of these biases in order to reduce or eliminate [the biases]," said study researcher Lisa Scott, a psychologist at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, in a statement.

In the study, 48 Caucasian infants were given the task of differentiating between faces of their own race and faces that belonged to another, unfamiliar, race. In another experiment, sensors placed on the babies' heads detected brain activity when the babies saw images of faces of Caucasian or African-American races expressing emotions that either matched or did not match sounds they heard, such as laughing and crying.

While 5-month-olds were equally able to distinguish faces from different races, 9-month-olds fared better with their own race. Likewise, brain-activity measurements showed the 9-month-olds processed emotional expressions among Caucasian faces differently than those of African-American faces, while the 5-month-olds did not.

Specifically, a shift was seen between 5 months and 9 months of age, whereby processing of facial emotions moved from the front of the brain to regions in the back of the brain in the older age group, the researchers found. This brain shift will help scientists understand just how the brain develops with regard to their experiences with different races during the first year of life, Scott and colleagues report in a study published in the May issue of the journal Developmental Science.

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/12/12 10:50 AM
I dont know that facial recognition correlates with the type of racism the op is writing about



mightymoe's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:21 AM

I dont know that facial recognition correlates with the type of racism the op is writing about





i guess you never heard "they all look alike"...

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:22 AM
yes, but that doesnt mean they all act alike

that sentiment is reinforced through personal environment

mightymoe's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:26 AM

yes, but that doesnt mean they all act alike

that sentiment is reinforced through personal environment


i don't disagree, i watched a 3-4 year old black girl on a bus tell everyone how she hated white people... but i think it may be more inherent than people think..

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:30 AM


yes, but that doesnt mean they all act alike

that sentiment is reinforced through personal environment


i don't disagree, i watched a 3-4 year old black girl on a bus tell everyone how she hated white people... but i think it may be more inherent than people think..


I dont think hate is inherent at all

a three year old knows nothing of hate without a grownup informing them,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:40 AM



yes, but that doesnt mean they all act alike

that sentiment is reinforced through personal environment


i don't disagree, i watched a 3-4 year old black girl on a bus tell everyone how she hated white people... but i think it may be more inherent than people think..


I dont think hate is inherent at all

a three year old knows nothing of hate without a grownup informing them,,,,


i agree, she was laughing and smiling the whole time, and other than what she was saying, she was a very pleasant little girl. i'm not real sure she even understood what white people were, either...
but that article was talking more about racial bias rather than prejudice, which i think is inherent in all races...

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:42 AM




yes, but that doesnt mean they all act alike

that sentiment is reinforced through personal environment


i don't disagree, i watched a 3-4 year old black girl on a bus tell everyone how she hated white people... but i think it may be more inherent than people think..


I dont think hate is inherent at all

a three year old knows nothing of hate without a grownup informing them,,,,


i agree, she was laughing and smiling the whole time, and other than what she was saying, she was a very pleasant little girl. i'm not real sure she even understood what white people were, either...
but that article was talking more about racial bias rather than prejudice, which i think is inherent in all races...



I Agree, racial and gender bias are probably fairly inherent

women are more likely to feel a connection to other women
and the same is probably true of any social category,,,

no photo
Sat 05/12/12 07:21 PM

i feel so helpless when my kids come home upset from school cause of kids n their racist remarks.
Have spoken to the school about it so many times, but to know avail this boys called my daughter a black **** and a few other things, and she got suspended for a week cause she spoke up and called him a gay raspberry that had BJL (b**w j*b lips).
I don't know how to help them anymore and try to make them so proud of who they r.....

ALWAYS'S BE PROUD OF YOURSELF!!!...whether LANGUAGE,Race or Religion...Do not forget that!!...cuz we do not choose what we want to be before being borned...continue educating them about Race,Religion and Language and Respect...only way to keep hatred continuing.

shandi69's photo
Sat 05/12/12 07:34 PM
i've always been proud n do the same with my children.... I grew up in a town as the only dark family there... School fotos amaze ppl.
Lived in a town where the KKK is still going and give aboriginals a hard time... Now where i am ran into a man who was picking on aboriginals n ppl on the bus asked why is only abusing them and not me and he said cause i was an islander, big difference with culture. It had us all stumped... Only for mee to let it fly about ppl culture... Which were all shocked cause i'm aboriginal/ south sea islander/ german and pommie.... It shut him up for he only a follower of the KKK...

shandi69's photo
Sat 05/12/12 07:39 PM
and mightymoe i do see wat yr saying about they all ook alike but i don't look like an african....as some ppl think i am....

And as my daughter put it the other day (she is 16), when she makes it as a singer she will have the last laugh cause all those that were mean to her will be buying her albums just like Guy Sebastian.... He was bullied at school here.

no photo
Sat 05/12/12 07:43 PM

i've always been proud n do the same with my children.... I grew up in a town as the only dark family there... School fotos amaze ppl.
Lived in a town where the KKK is still going and give aboriginals a hard time... Now where i am ran into a man who was picking on aboriginals n ppl on the bus asked why is only abusing them and not me and he said cause i was an islander, big difference with culture. It had us all stumped... Only for mee to let it fly about ppl culture... Which were all shocked cause i'm aboriginal/ south sea islander/ german and pommie.... It shut him up for he only a follower of the KKK...


KKK..Ignorant people who hide behind sheets...need I say more!

shandi69's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:13 PM
i know hey.... My son was chased down by them and some of the police here r in the KKK so much for protection...

Totage's photo
Sat 05/12/12 11:30 PM

i feel so helpless when my kids come home upset from school cause of kids n their racist remarks.
Have spoken to the school about it so many times, but to know avail this boys called my daughter a black **** and a few other things, and she got suspended for a week cause she spoke up and called him a gay raspberry that had BJL (b**w j*b lips).
I don't know how to help them anymore and try to make them so proud of who they r.....


I hear ya. Everyone thinks I'm everything but what I really am. Even though I get made fun of and remarks are made toward me of races I'm not, I still feel offended by the racism.

I let the racists think I'm the race they hate the most, mixed with the one they hate the second most, with a little of the third race they hate the most.

It's my nature to be more of a lover than a fighter, so I tend to love my enemies, though I don't see them as my enemies, they may see me as theirs, even if they do befriend despite their issues.

For the most part it seems that once they see me as those they hate and get to know me more as a person, they don't seem to have the same view of those their racist against, or they at least question it. That's my whole plan though, to show them that people are people regardless of skin tone.

I mean, I'm not trying to convert anyone, but I have made some racists see the errors of their ways, and question their views.

unsure's photo
Sun 05/13/12 06:41 AM
I have always taught my boys that color does not matter. My best friend has a bi-racial daughter and my boys kept telling her she had a pretty tan. So my friend said, you really need to tell the boys. I said you tell them because I am teaching them that color does not matter. So she told them and they said OH OK..no big deal and just went about the day. I told my friend that my family would probably be a rainbow of colors and it didn't matter because we all bleed red.
LOVE IS LOVE, FIND SOMEONE WHO TREATS YOU RIGHT AND DON'T LOOK AT THE COLOR!!

josie68's photo
Sun 05/13/12 06:42 AM
Edited by josie68 on Sun 05/13/12 06:45 AM
Honestly there is nothing that you can do. Kids can be cruel, if there parents havent taught them any better then they will not change.'

My kids go to a school where it has a huge mixture of cultures, there friends are every shape size and colour, they have no problems with each other. But I know that not all the kids find it easy and are often grouped.

My kids hate the fact that their aboriginal friends are in seperate classes as they are not taught together, they have their own teachers to keep the culture, so only really mix at lunch and recess, this makes it hard here. I can't say that I agree with it as it tends to seperate the kids.

Kahurangi's photo
Sun 05/13/12 09:14 PM
A very good friend of mine teaches aboriginal children out in the communities Josie. And through her interaction with these children, she has observed that they learn in a different manner to other children. They don't have any symbols in their language/culture which makes it more challenging for them to grasp the concept of learning subjects such as math, english, etc. Everything that the aboriginal child learns is through art or story telling from their respective elders. They are people of the land more so than scholars of the classroom. So this is perhaps why they have their own classrooms at your childrens school?

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