Topic: Cure for Cancer?
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Mon 05/14/12 03:30 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 05/14/12 03:37 PM


I find its better to ignore simple errors in difference to the conclusions, and meanings held within. I find no problems in understanding meaning when given context. That makes all such corrections petty.

Just my .02


I have a bad habit of not paying attention at all while I type. I start the first few letters of a word its as if I let my fingers finish typing the word on their own accord, leading to frequent use of the wrong suffix (or absence of a necessary suffix), or just the wrong word altogether.

Sometimes I skip entire words, thinking that I typed them - which is awful when the word is 'not' or 'no', and pretty bad when its 'some' or 'all'.

These problems should be solved by rereading before posting, but I don't always take the time - and when I do, and edit, sometimes I try to move text or insert text in the wrong place, yielding incomprehensible gibberish. I don't recall anyone criticizing me for it, though I have to wonder if some people think I sometimes post while drunk.

I welcome corrections in the spirit of 'making sure we understand each other'.


I use forums like this to keep my mind occupied during down times at work, which are infrequent and can be very short. So I speed read the posts, and speed type the responses. I often make very simple mistakes, and when I can I go back and edit to correct, or add more to enhance the communication of my meaning if I feel I was light on explanation.

Spider: deference yes . . . thanks, oh wait, lol in context. PEDANT! lol.

j/k!
drinker


Says Dr. Hulda Clark: All cancers are alike and all are caused by a single parasite (fasciolopsis buskii)
Yep, back to that, "if anyone claims a single cure/cause, for cancer" they are full of it, and ultimately have to explain far more than if they had just said, some kinds, or one kind, or not mentioned it at all.

Really making this claim is like saying all other cancer research to date is BS. Which is absurd.

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Mon 05/14/12 04:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 05/14/12 04:41 PM
massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?

I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?


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Mon 05/14/12 06:08 PM

massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?

I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?




Ringworm is a fungus. There are no actual ringworms.

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Mon 05/14/12 06:41 PM


massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?

I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?




Ringworm is a fungus. There are no actual ringworms.


That's nice to know. They still call it "ringworm" and it can still be killed/cured with black walnut hulls.


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Mon 05/14/12 10:27 PM



massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?

I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?




Ringworm is a fungus. There are no actual ringworms.


That's nice to know. They still call it "ringworm" and it can still be killed/cured with black walnut hulls.




Garlic works too, as well as a dozen other substances. The anti-fungicidal are not expensive.

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Mon 05/14/12 10:35 PM

massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?

I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?




From what I've read, you have to apply the tincture 2-3 times a day for weeks.

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Tue 05/15/12 02:00 AM

massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?



I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.

Since I didn't remember anything about her, I looked her up just now, and apparently she was the seller of one of the electric parasite zapper devices, which i had heard of without knowing who popularized it. (Might also be more than one person who did so...). Those things are pure snake oil.



I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?


I'm not sure if you are implying that we should have less faith in the competence of modern medical professionals simply because individual practioners are ignorant of herbal remedies.

The main reason they are ignorant of herbal remedies is most people find DIY herbal remedies so damn inconvenient (unless purchased as a premade formula, in which case they cost/effectiveness ratio is not impressive) that they just aren't practical to prescribe for most people.

Most doctors do know that salicylic (sp?) acid comes from willow trees, and they also know that aspirin is so cheap and easy to use and readily available that less than 0.1% of the population would ever seriously consider using willow in place of aspirin. This is the kind of thing that I did when I was a teenager because it was fun, and because I wanted to prove to myself I could live wholly 'of the grid' if I wanted to.. but eventually things like that were no longer fun, they are just chores.

Back to your question - herbal remedies that actual work are part of the body of knowledge recognized by modern medical science - its just a part of the body of knowledge which is mostly ignored by most people.

Doctors have a hard enough time getting lazy, irresponsible people to actually follow through with their medication schedule, even when all they have to do is take one tiny little pill and be done with it. Imagine trying to get those people to go harvest their own herbs, or convince them to spend 4 times as much on something that works, but takes twice as long to work.

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Tue 05/15/12 07:24 AM

I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.
That's funny, and here I thought cooking food was one way to kill parasites . . .

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Tue 05/15/12 07:31 AM


I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.
That's funny, and here I thought cooking food was one way to kill parasites . . .


Cooking food kills parasites, bacteria, destroys anti-nutrients and brings out the most of the nutritional value.

Cooked vegetables are better for you nutritionally and are safer. This has been confirmed by laboratory science.

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Tue 05/15/12 07:33 AM


I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.
That's funny, and here I thought cooking food was one way to kill parasites . . .


Are we discussing the US congress?

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Tue 05/15/12 10:12 AM


massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?

I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?




From what I've read, you have to apply the tincture 2-3 times a day for weeks.



My dad told me about the green black walnut hulls cure before I ever heard of Hulda Clark. He used it as a child. I don't know how many times he applied it, probably until it went away.


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Tue 05/15/12 10:16 AM


massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?



I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.

Since I didn't remember anything about her, I looked her up just now, and apparently she was the seller of one of the electric parasite zapper devices, which i had heard of without knowing who popularized it. (Might also be more than one person who did so...). Those things are pure snake oil.



I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?


I'm not sure if you are implying that we should have less faith in the competence of modern medical professionals simply because individual practioners are ignorant of herbal remedies.

The main reason they are ignorant of herbal remedies is most people find DIY herbal remedies so damn inconvenient (unless purchased as a premade formula, in which case they cost/effectiveness ratio is not impressive) that they just aren't practical to prescribe for most people.

Most doctors do know that salicylic (sp?) acid comes from willow trees, and they also know that aspirin is so cheap and easy to use and readily available that less than 0.1% of the population would ever seriously consider using willow in place of aspirin. This is the kind of thing that I did when I was a teenager because it was fun, and because I wanted to prove to myself I could live wholly 'of the grid' if I wanted to.. but eventually things like that were no longer fun, they are just chores.

Back to your question - herbal remedies that actual work are part of the body of knowledge recognized by modern medical science - its just a part of the body of knowledge which is mostly ignored by most people.

Doctors have a hard enough time getting lazy, irresponsible people to actually follow through with their medication schedule, even when all they have to do is take one tiny little pill and be done with it. Imagine trying to get those people to go harvest their own herbs, or convince them to spend 4 times as much on something that works, but takes twice as long to work.



No, I think doctors are just trained today to prescribe drugs. Home remedies are genuinely and mostly frowned upon.

Its true though that most people are lazy and go to their doctors for a magic pill to cure their ills.


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Tue 05/15/12 11:35 AM



massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?



I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.

Since I didn't remember anything about her, I looked her up just now, and apparently she was the seller of one of the electric parasite zapper devices, which i had heard of without knowing who popularized it. (Might also be more than one person who did so...). Those things are pure snake oil.



I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?


I'm not sure if you are implying that we should have less faith in the competence of modern medical professionals simply because individual practioners are ignorant of herbal remedies.

The main reason they are ignorant of herbal remedies is most people find DIY herbal remedies so damn inconvenient (unless purchased as a premade formula, in which case they cost/effectiveness ratio is not impressive) that they just aren't practical to prescribe for most people.

Most doctors do know that salicylic (sp?) acid comes from willow trees, and they also know that aspirin is so cheap and easy to use and readily available that less than 0.1% of the population would ever seriously consider using willow in place of aspirin. This is the kind of thing that I did when I was a teenager because it was fun, and because I wanted to prove to myself I could live wholly 'of the grid' if I wanted to.. but eventually things like that were no longer fun, they are just chores.

Back to your question - herbal remedies that actual work are part of the body of knowledge recognized by modern medical science - its just a part of the body of knowledge which is mostly ignored by most people.

Doctors have a hard enough time getting lazy, irresponsible people to actually follow through with their medication schedule, even when all they have to do is take one tiny little pill and be done with it. Imagine trying to get those people to go harvest their own herbs, or convince them to spend 4 times as much on something that works, but takes twice as long to work.



No, I think doctors are just trained today to prescribe drugs. Home remedies are genuinely and mostly frowned upon.

Its true though that most people are lazy and go to their doctors for a magic pill to cure their ills.




I agree with what you said, so its confusing to me that you start your sentence with 'no'. Otherwise, you aren't disagreeing with me. It's true that doctors are trained to prescribe drugs.

For one, doctors are not mindless drones who only do what they are told - some doctors are very aware of herbal remedies and consciously choose not to use them. I think my statements tell part of the answer to 'why'.

For another, I'm addressing the reasons why doctors are trained to prescribe drugs. It is NOT just because big pharma wants to make money off of everyone so they brainwash doctors to sell their wares.

It's also because we are a convenience oriented culture, and the drugs we use are so much more convenient.


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Tue 05/15/12 12:17 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/15/12 12:17 PM




massagetrade,

Have you read much of Dr Hulda Clark?



I heard about her vaguely from my raw food friends, because some of them also think that parasites are the cause of all physical problems, and that eating 100% raw will cure you of all parasites and thus all disease.

Since I didn't remember anything about her, I looked her up just now, and apparently she was the seller of one of the electric parasite zapper devices, which i had heard of without knowing who popularized it. (Might also be more than one person who did so...). Those things are pure snake oil.



I do know that green black walnut hulls do kill ringworms on contact.

And yet go to a doctor and see all the expensive pills and ointments they will prescribe for ringworms. Does modern medicine really know as much as they think?


I'm not sure if you are implying that we should have less faith in the competence of modern medical professionals simply because individual practioners are ignorant of herbal remedies.

The main reason they are ignorant of herbal remedies is most people find DIY herbal remedies so damn inconvenient (unless purchased as a premade formula, in which case they cost/effectiveness ratio is not impressive) that they just aren't practical to prescribe for most people.

Most doctors do know that salicylic (sp?) acid comes from willow trees, and they also know that aspirin is so cheap and easy to use and readily available that less than 0.1% of the population would ever seriously consider using willow in place of aspirin. This is the kind of thing that I did when I was a teenager because it was fun, and because I wanted to prove to myself I could live wholly 'of the grid' if I wanted to.. but eventually things like that were no longer fun, they are just chores.

Back to your question - herbal remedies that actual work are part of the body of knowledge recognized by modern medical science - its just a part of the body of knowledge which is mostly ignored by most people.

Doctors have a hard enough time getting lazy, irresponsible people to actually follow through with their medication schedule, even when all they have to do is take one tiny little pill and be done with it. Imagine trying to get those people to go harvest their own herbs, or convince them to spend 4 times as much on something that works, but takes twice as long to work.



No, I think doctors are just trained today to prescribe drugs. Home remedies are genuinely and mostly frowned upon.

Its true though that most people are lazy and go to their doctors for a magic pill to cure their ills.




I agree with what you said, so its confusing to me that you start your sentence with 'no'. Otherwise, you aren't disagreeing with me. It's true that doctors are trained to prescribe drugs.

For one, doctors are not mindless drones who only do what they are told - some doctors are very aware of herbal remedies and consciously choose not to use them. I think my statements tell part of the answer to 'why'.

For another, I'm addressing the reasons why doctors are trained to prescribe drugs. It is NOT just because big pharma wants to make money off of everyone so they brainwash doctors to sell their wares.

It's also because we are a convenience oriented culture, and the drugs we use are so much more convenient.




Yes. bigsmile And people are lazy.

My doctor is about my age and he is not a drug pusher. I've met many doctors who are not drug pushers. I think some doctors are getting wise to the fact that drugs do cause a lot of deaths, even properly prescribed drugs.

And they all seem to have side effects.




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Tue 05/15/12 02:20 PM
Home remedies are genuinely and mostly frowned upon.
Why not, they are drugs also, just with poor delivery systems, and in unknown quantities.

Welcome to the 20th century. Oh wait . . . .

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Wed 05/16/12 12:42 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtjvbE9w58A


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Thu 05/17/12 08:42 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Thu 05/17/12 08:46 AM
Total crap.

In the last 100 years dozens of doctors, scientists and researchers have come up with the most diverse, apparently effective solutions against cancer, but none of these was ever taken into serious consideration by official medicine. Most of them were in fact rejected out-front, even though healings were claimed in the thousands, their proposers often being labeled as charlatans, ostracized by the medical community and ultimately forced to leave the country. At the same time more than 20,000 people die of cancer every day, without official medicine being able to offer a true sense of hope to those affected by it. Why? - More info on luogocomune.net - Order the DVD at Amazon.com http://codehazard.com/Play.aspx?ID=449 if you value the film makers research and work to fund further documentaries...


Yes, and to find out . . . just buy my DVD's!


. . . and what research, we are given assertions with no support in that vid.

The folks mentioned in the film are quacks, and their "treatments" did not gain in popularity becuase they are not effective, ie they dont work.


A popular meme for quacks is to try to portray themselves as the lone maverick doctor fighting against an evil system.

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Thu 05/17/12 11:06 AM

Total crap.

In the last 100 years dozens of doctors, scientists and researchers have come up with the most diverse, apparently effective solutions against cancer, but none of these was ever taken into serious consideration by official medicine. Most of them were in fact rejected out-front, even though healings were claimed in the thousands, their proposers often being labeled as charlatans, ostracized by the medical community and ultimately forced to leave the country. At the same time more than 20,000 people die of cancer every day, without official medicine being able to offer a true sense of hope to those affected by it. Why? - More info on luogocomune.net - Order the DVD at Amazon.com http://codehazard.com/Play.aspx?ID=449 if you value the film makers research and work to fund further documentaries...


Yes, and to find out . . . just buy my DVD's!


. . . and what research, we are given assertions with no support in that vid.

The folks mentioned in the film are quacks, and their "treatments" did not gain in popularity becuase they are not effective, ie they dont work.


A popular meme for quacks is to try to portray themselves as the lone maverick doctor fighting against an evil system.



LOL!

Of course you didn't make it past the trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_828978&v=gWLrfNJICeM&src_vid=EtjvbE9w58A

At the end of the video, this message is shown:

"Please order a DVD and
support the filmmaker at
WWW.LUOGOCOMUNE.NET
Then feel free to duplicate and distribute"

Do your own research...


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Thu 05/17/12 12:09 PM
Do your own research...
I trust the NIH, the AMA ect, not some quacks who couldn't cut it.

Thanks,

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Thu 05/17/12 12:32 PM

Do your own research...
I trust the NIH, the AMA ect, not some quacks who couldn't cut it.

Thanks,


You would trust an organization that has been found guilty of slander, intimidation, petty grievances and the like...

Acording to the US goverment and thousands of cancer survivors, cancer was cured in the 50's.

Suppression is NOT scientific no matter how much you wish it were the case.